tarzan999

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I'm tired of Enlai. I know he is the ultimate ntr guy for people, but to me he didn't even earn what he got. It was too easy. Also, and this has been said before by others, why do all the villains have their own art style? It's like they aren't even from the same universe as the girls they are fucking. That's my rant, I'm sure smelly Enlai (the most washed hobo ever) will be the highlight of this update.... :HideThePain:
I'm also pretty tired of Enlai. His and Marin's storyline has been so stupid so far that I'd rather he not crossover into other storylines. He hasn't been clever, he hasn't been forceful... all Enlai has been is pathetic and annoying, yet Marin put out for him. It's ridiculous and I'd rather he not be used any more than he has to be. I'm honestly kinda hoping that some other force usurps him and the rest of the villains.
If I have to choose between Marin x Enlai and something that's more vanilla I would choose the former every time. Not every dev has enough time/desire to create a deep story line especially if he is also creating 2d art. Just enjoy the show. It's not like there is a better NTR character than Enlai in this game so far.
 
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Oriandu

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If I have to choose between Marin x Enlai and something that's more vanilla I would choose the former every time. Not every dev has enough time/desire to create a deep story line especially if he is also creating 2d art. Just enjoy the show. It's not like there is a better NTR character than Enlai in this game so far.
I'm not asking for something vanilla, this is an NTR game after all. What I'm asking for is for someone who isn't, pardon my phrasing, such a beta cuck. Enlai is a loser. Even ignoring the fact that he's a physically repugnant man who lives in a rundown shack, Enlai is just an absolute fucking dweeb. His conquest of Marin amounts to just being extremely whiny and pushy. He didn't get into her panties with trickery or guile, he didn't do it by being imposing and strong... he did it by being a bitch baby with a giant dick. It's just hard to take him or Marin seriously when we've got other, better NTR antagonists in the game.
 

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I'm not asking for something vanilla, this is an NTR game after all. What I'm asking for is for someone who isn't, pardon my phrasing, such a beta cuck. Enlai is a loser. Even ignoring the fact that he's a physically repugnant man who lives in a rundown shack, Enlai is just an absolute fucking dweeb. His conquest of Marin amounts to just being extremely whiny and pushy. He didn't get into her panties with trickery or guile, he didn't do it by being imposing and strong... he did it by being a bitch baby with a giant dick. It's just hard to take him or Marin seriously when we've got other, better NTR antagonists in the game.
I somewhat agree, considering my proximity to poor people one thing I can say is that most of them are ripped ( not by choice) and I remember when I saw that I was thinking that I wish he was better looking. but the fat ugly bastard is a japanese concept. Japanese people have this cleanliness obsession and the fat ugly bastard is the total oposite. so fucking him is a disavowement of the whole social norm. then the fat ugly bastard just bled into western and people do not understand why he gets pussy.

also remember there is the magical thing that is messing with the girls thinking. but I cant say much about that, there were goblins at the start, there was a murdered woman at the start and nothing has come out of it.
 
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Yeah Enlai's story sucks. I don't care for ntr, but if the story is decent I give it a shot. He is definitely the weakest link in all of this. I hope something happens latter to improve him. I seriously doubt it's going to happen though. Honestly I've kind of given up on the game. I just like to come here and bullshit :BootyTime: also waiting for goblins....
 

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I'm not asking for something vanilla, this is an NTR game after all. What I'm asking for is for someone who isn't, pardon my phrasing, such a beta cuck. Enlai is a loser. Even ignoring the fact that he's a physically repugnant man who lives in a rundown shack, Enlai is just an absolute fucking dweeb. His conquest of Marin amounts to just being extremely whiny and pushy. He didn't get into her panties with trickery or guile, he didn't do it by being imposing and strong... he did it by being a bitch baby with a giant dick. It's just hard to take him or Marin seriously when we've got other, better NTR antagonists in the game.
That's not a worse version of NTR. This is a different version of NTR. There are many flavors out there. To some if the corrupter is a big and imposing person that kinda makes it less humiliating for the girl.
 
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I somewhat agree, considering my proximity to poor people one thing I can say is that most of them are ripped ( not by choice) and I remember when I saw that I was thinking that I wish he was better looking. but the fat ugly bastard is a japanese concept. Japanese people have this cleanliness obsession and the fat ugly bastard is the total oposite. so fucking him is a disavowement of the whole social norm. then the fat ugly bastard just bled into western and people do not understand why he gets pussy.

also remember there is the magical thing that is messing with the girls thinking. but I cant say much about that, there were goblins at the start, there was a murdered woman at the start and nothing has come out of it.
All of which is fine, but most of the time there's some actions and behaviour that cause or drive the NTR when one of the characters is a disgusting hobo. Enlai isn't clever, strong, or intelligent, he didn't trick or strong arm Marin, he just whined until Marin spread her legs. Marin put out because she was annoyed into it, which is extremely stupid on her part and extremely pathetic on Enlai's.
 

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Does anyone have an old save file? I may be mistaken, but I remember pixel art scenes where Enlai masturbated in front of Marin and ejaculated on the floor and on her face. These scenes were only pixel art and took place before the first handjob. I don't know if anyone has a save file lying around.
 

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All of which is fine, but most of the time there's some actions and behaviour that cause or drive the NTR when one of the characters is a disgusting hobo. Enlai isn't clever, strong, or intelligent, he didn't trick or strong arm Marin, he just whined until Marin spread her legs. Marin put out because she was annoyed into it, which is extremely stupid on her part and extremely pathetic on Enlai's.
again what you are saying is the whole point of it happening. some people have saviour complex and a saviour needs a crippled useless victim to help in order to make themselves feel superior.

I... I... was only helping, I ... I ... I was only providing relief.
you seriously underestimate the "egoistical" part of helping others. if someone feels good helping they are dam going to help take that trip to africa and live amongst shabby dirty huts.
 
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again what you are saying is the whole point of it happening. some people have saviour complex and a saviour needs a crippled useless victim to help in order to make themselves feel superior.

I... I... was only helping, I ... I ... I was only providing relief.
you seriously underestimate the "egoistical" part of helping others. if someone feels good helping they are dam going to help take that trip to africa and live amongst shabby dirty huts.
I don't underestimate anything because that's not what happened in the game. Using irrelevant examples doesn't help your argument.
 
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I don't underestimate anything because that's not what happened in the game. Using irrelevant examples doesn't help your argument.
I think he's trying to tell you that enlai used marins helpful nature to get laid, in short terms. In long terms yea she was kinda stupid for going that far (with a few other things in the game pressuring her as well) so your not wrong but as anon was saying it is just in her helpful nature to allow things to go that far. she is kinda like the nice mom trope in hentai where they just cant say no if you ask enough or if it seems like your somehow in pain from getting an erection so they feel obligated to take care of it, like what enlai did.
 
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I think he's trying to tell you that enlai used marins helpful nature to get laid, in short terms. In long terms yea she was kinda stupid for going that far (with a few other things in the game pressuring her as well) so your not wrong but as anon was saying it is just in her helpful nature to allow things to go that far. she is kinda like the nice mom trope in hentai where they just cant say no if you ask enough or if it seems like your somehow in pain from getting an erection so they feel obligated to take care of it, like what enlai did.
Enlai didn't use Marin's helpful nature to get laid. From one to done it was basically just him being extremely inappropriate and whiny which Marin was not capable of handling as she should have. He used how naive she was to get the going and then started acting like a whiny baby. Even if he had manipulated her by taking advantage of her helpful nature, the manner in which he did it was by being extremely pathetic and whiny at all times. His behaviour amounts to that of a spoiled child and it doesn't make for a good or effective NTR villain in my mind.
 
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