Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[HMZS]

just my 2 cents
the ladies i met those last 5 years tend to mix up porn and sexuality. which is rather annoying. being in bed with someone you care about should not carry a porntubehub feeling

i dont see the scenes in the game as porn

referring to the screenshots, receiving a blowjob outdoor with a cosplayer doesnt feel like porn
talking dirty while dogging neither
because it can be a kink, it can be for the fun of it, it can be to try, for the thrill, etc

but when it is all the time, whatever the situation and context, it feels like porn, sadly

and today's people, let s say, 25-35 gen (dunno if that s Y or Z. i'm X), tend to really mix the whole thing up into something that doesnt appeal to me

dunno if you guys saw the movie "Her", some people found it was a fantastic love story. maybe they missed the part where everyone in the subway is watching porn on their cellphones.

 

[Joey the mangaka]

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[Cartageno]

Development is not fast, not fast at all ....

If you only use sex scenes as a reference, then it will never be. As has been discussed extensively (and coincidentally all over the last half dozen or so pages), this game is not about delivering a lot of them.

 

[PapaPhat]

Are you lost? The whole thing started because I called out someone that was crying that they still couldn't bang a main girl. I was the one literally a slower paced adult game and that it's fine like that. The DeLuca Family definitely could not be considered a porn game. Porn games place an emphasis on sexual content, meanwhile adult games generally have an emphasis on story and include sexual content where it fits.

Oxford Dictionary...
por·nog·ra·phy
noun
printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.

The explicit content in this game has a rather high aesthetic value, does add emotion to the story AND still has erotic content. My argument is that this game is both art and porn simultaneously. DeLuca Family is the highest quality, the classiest example of AVN/adult games available. It is highly story driven with brilliantly written characters. That, we agree, IS the focus here. However, this also has some solar flare hot sex scenes that are just as explicit and graphic as any hardcore porn. It is also rather kinky. You seem to be under the impression that the great story and character focus negates the explicit erotic content. Nothing could be further from the truth. The story serves to heighten the desire and enhance the sexual experiences when they arrive. Just because this is an extremely high class title does NOT negate that it also contains explicit sex aka erotica aka pornography aka porn. I agree the porn is NOT the main focus but that does not remove the fact that this game contains porn. I have said everything I have to say on this subject. I LOVE this game and will not argue this point any further.

Adventure ever on, Phat

 

[Cartageno]

Oxford Dictionary...
por·nog·ra·phy
noun
printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.

The explicit content in this game has a rather high aesthetic value, does add emotion to the story AND still has erotic content. My argument is that this game is both art and porn simultaneously. DeLuca Family is the highest quality, the classiest example of AVN/adult games available. It is highly story driven with brilliantly written characters. That, we agree, IS the focus here. However, this also has some solar flare hot sex scenes that are just as explicit and graphic as any hardcore porn. It is also rather kinky. You seem to be under the impression that the great story and character focus negates the explicit erotic content. Nothing could be further from the truth. The story serves to heighten the desire and enhance the sexual experiences when they arrive. Just because this is an extremely high class title does NOT negate that it also contains explicit sex aka erotica aka pornography aka porn. I agree the porn is NOT the main focus but that does not remove the fact that this game contains porn. I have said everything I have to say on this subject. I LOVE this game and will not argue this point any further.

Adventure ever on, Phat

I think you are a bit too literal. These are games including porn, that's not the question. But is everything that includes porn automatically full porn? Legally, probably, because the kiddos will see their stuff. But is a book including some horror elements automatically a horror novel? Is a song with a bagpipe in the background during the second bridge immediately bagpipe music? A movie with a chase scene always an action movie?

Of course one can argue that, I'd say it will depend on context. When we are talking about protecting people from content inappropriate for them, one occurence may be too many and we would classify those as a horror novel - just like a F95 tag appears with one occurence of the kink. If on the other hand we are talking about what to expect from the sequel/continuation/whatever it isn't as clear cut. But that was the original point of the argument - somebody wanted this game to be all porn because it already includes pornographic scenes. And I can gather from your post you agree that this game is better for not doing that. (This game specifically, for others it might be better to put more emphasis on the body to body action part) And to be able to make that distinction, we are talking about adult games with pornographic content or elements as something else than a purely pornographic game.

 

[Boehser Onkel]

guys n girls ...

you are going far of topic here

dont want a mod going wild with the broom , wont we

 

[Cartageno]

guys n girls ...

you are going far of topic here

dont want a mod going wild with the broom , wont we

Are you accusing the mods of being witches in disguise?

 

[PapaPhat]

guys n girls ...

you are going far of topic here

dont want a mod going wild with the broom , wont we

Discussing the content and subject matter of the game is about as ON topic as it gets. Did you have an actual point? I have already made my point and am finished discussing the subject. I will not discuss moderators or their duties.
Have a pleasant day, friend.

 

[mdmnsjs1]

under misc. the first task is to talk to wilfred during the day how do you get that started? ive been through a week and nothing thanks for any help

 

[mdmnsjs1]

also when i click continue story it says thats all for season one so how to get it started again?

 

[PapaPhat]

under misc. the first task is to talk to wilfred during the day how do you get that started? ive been through a week and nothing thanks for any help

It's the same dialogue chain as asking Uncle Wilfred for work. Click on Wilfred, select Work, follow the dialogue and the Lucania free roam event will start automatically. Points of interest/dialogue events during the free roam include, the bar and brothel (south side, follow the path to the back to find the brothel), the Church (east side), Lady Cordia's Tea House (north central near the market), a rather brief talk with an older fellow in the market, and the soldier barracks (northern edge of the map, just west of the main gate). There are dialogue options for each of those locations that will show the scene rather than just mission style text. There are some text cues as well. Make sure to follow the text cues and DO NOT click "Abort Mission!" Once you select the button to leave the scenario it just takes a moment to return home. I discovered that the hard way. Ooops! Hahaha Enjoy

Once you complete the free roam, go right back to Wilfred (I didn't have to wait) and click "Work" again, then select "Events" and take the next available event task.
Hope that helps you, my friend.

Adventure ever on, Phat

 

[mdmnsjs1]

It's the same dialogue chain as asking Uncle Wilfred for work. Click on Wilfred, select Work, follow the dialogue and the Lucania free roam event will start automatically.

Once you complete the free roam, go right back to Wilfred (I didn't have to wait) and click "Work" again, then select "Events" and take the next available event task.
Hope that helps you, my friend.

Adventure ever on, Phat

thanks aill check that out

 

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any chance for either mega or pixeldrain mirrors?
mixdrop keeps flagging it as unsafe and wont load the download page... while workupload keeps resetting the download every time my sad connection gets cut...

 

[JJJ84]

I think you are a bit too literal. These are games including porn, that's not the question. But is everything that includes porn automatically full porn? Legally, probably, because the kiddos will see their stuff. But is a book including some horror elements automatically a horror novel? Is a song with a bagpipe in the background during the second bridge immediately bagpipe music? A movie with a chase scene always an action movie?

Of course one can argue that, I'd say it will depend on context. When we are talking about protecting people from content inappropriate for them, one occurence may be too many and we would classify those as a horror novel - just like a F95 tag appears with one occurence of the kink. If on the other hand we are talking about what to expect from the sequel/continuation/whatever it isn't as clear cut. But that was the original point of the argument - somebody wanted this game to be all porn because it already includes pornographic scenes. And I can gather from your post you agree that this game is better for not doing that. (This game specifically, for others it might be better to put more emphasis on the body to body action part) And to be able to make that distinction, we are talking about adult games with pornographic content or elements as something else than a purely pornographic game.

It feels a bit like a situation seeing a person say to others "I have my definition of Incest, and I don't care what definition this f95zone website uses for its Incest tag, cause my definition is the only one that matters."

As you've said, the "Body" of the game should be the one that matters (than the body action, heh), as well as the intent of the dev.
But I guess some folks are too stubborn to realize that.

 

[Dragunav]

This is a kind of game where i don't care if the sex scenes are coming late or not at all. I love the characters and i like the story.
If the developer needs more time to make the story and events fit, then i'm all for it.

 

[JJJ84]

any chance for either mega or pixeldrain mirrors?
mixdrop keeps flagging it as unsafe and wont load the download page... while workupload keeps resetting the download every time my sad connection gets cut...

Hmmm.. I agree mega and pixeldrain are certainly superior (them usually being my go to download sites)... do you really need the walkthrough mod for this game though?
I mean, the choices in the VN part are pretty self-explanatory, and for contracts, there's always the contracts walkthrough by whichone in the OP.

 

[Clitbait]

So the east, north,south west mode that actually has special render or content? Can't have it with only story+free roam mode?

 

[salome]

Il est temps de le finir ton jeu ,bientôt 5 ans ...... faut passer à autre chose
It's time to finish your game, soon 5 years old ...... have to move on

 

[Cartageno]

So the east, north,south west mode that actually has special render or content? Can't have it with only story+free roam mode?

There is some background info you get from stories and indeed some renders you won't get without it.

Il est temps de le finir ton jeu ,bientôt 5 ans ...... faut passer à autre chose
It's time to finish your game, soon 5 years old ...... have to move on

There is no such thing as a time limit on creative endeavours, or anything else where you don't have a contractual dealine. Sure, people may stop supporting you and it won't be a viable source of income for that reason. Quite a few books and video games took insane amounts of times to make. Some became classics, some not so much.

 

[tester1957]

I just started this game with the latest version (0.09.5) and no matter which save I choose the same free roam screen comes up making me finish the intro and play all over again. I am frustrated to play for hours and the save and come back and have start again. anyone know why? thanks in advance.