VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.6.2] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[LordWanze]

Really loved the scene with Rika and Mr Santini (I always thought this type of corruption scene will show up in corruption VN but it never did).

And I hated the scene because there was no player choice involved and I find them both disgusting.
A trigger warning with a skip button would've been nice.

But we already saw how unimportant player choices are for the dev so I doubt that will change ever (it's not even the only scene with him that a player has to endure no matter what they decide).

Which won't stop me from continuing playing because Kat is fantastic.

 

[Joshy92]

It boggles my fucking mind when people say choices don't matter. Just because there aren't consequences yet doesn't mean they don't matter.

This game already has tons of choices I feel like people are judging this more harshly than other games.

 

[LordWanze]

It boggles my fucking mind when people say choices don't matter. Just because there aren't consequences yet doesn't mean they don't matter.

This game already has tons of choices I feel like people are judging this more harshly than other games.

Hope you didn't mean my comment, because you're right: choices you have matter, at least as far as we got yet.

I was on about missing choices, but that really shouldn't discourage anyone of trying this game.
It is quite good.
And there can't be too many players playing with Kat

 

[Joshy92]

Hope you didn't mean my comment, because you're right: choices you have matter, at least as far as we got yet.

I was on about missing choices, but that really shouldn't discourage anyone of trying this game.
It is quite good.
And there can't be too many players playing with Kat

I only meant yours a little. I just got annoyed because a lot of people have been saying choices don't matter for ages now when its simply not true.

You can share Kathryn or not, you can cheat on her or not and I'm sure those things will factor into it later in the game.

 

[Dessolos]

And I hated the scene because there was no player choice involved and I find them both disgusting.
A trigger warning with a skip button would've been nice.

But we already saw how unimportant player choices are for the dev so I doubt that will change ever (it's not even the only scene with him that a player has to endure no matter what they decide).

Which won't stop me from continuing playing because Kat is fantastic.

Unless im confusing the scene you didn't like with another I don't think having player choice would matter in the scene you disliked as it doesn't involve the player. It's there for story reasons to show how Rika is addicted to whatever drug that is and build more of how much of a piece of shit Santini is. While the scene with the player and Rika we had there was an option to say no to it.

But yeah there are some scenes where more choice or being clear about a scene would of been nice ( like how their water was drugged would never of know that if Bobby didn't tell us on this thread)

 

[Joshy92]

Unless im confusing the scene you didn't like with another I don't think player choice matters in the scene you disliked as it doesn't involve the player. It's there for story reasons to show how Rika is addicted to whatever drug that is and build more of how much of a piece of shit Santini is. While the scene with the player and Rika we had there was an option to say no to it.

But yeah there are some scenes where more choice or being clear about a scene would of been nice ( like how their water was drugged would never of know that if Bobby didn't tell us on this thread)

I had forgot baout that. Now the dinner scene doesn't feel so out of place to me.

 

[TimoF965]

A trigger warning with a skip button would've been nice.

Oh, please no! No trigger warnings, please. Would you also like a warning in a scary movie "attention, shock-moment ahead!"? Kills all the intented shock-effect, suprising twists and feels just woke. If you don't like something like this, don't play a game with this tags. Or just stop the game when it reaches a direction you don't like.

would never of know that if Bobby didn't tell us on this thread

I guess that this will be mentioned later in the game as well. At least he was surprised that we do not already speculate in this direction.

 

[Dessolos]

I guess that this will be mentioned later in the game as well. At least he was surprised that we do not already speculate in this direction.

yeah if I recall right he added that scene where the MC and Kathryn fuck like rabbits in the last update to show they were drugged. However that scene missed it's mark with me I never put two and two together there either. I just thought they were natural horny after all they are young and in love with one another.

 

[Joshy92]

yeah if I recall right he added that scene where the MC and Kathryn fuck like rabbits in the last update to show they were drugged. However that scene missed it's mark with me I never put two and two together there either. I just thought they were natural horny after all they are young and in love with one another.

I didn't stop to think about that tbh. I mean if I was Kathryn's boyfriend we would be fucking like rabbits regardless if we ingested drugs or not.

 

[KINGKUMAR]

Technically this game is a Swinging game not ntr
Ntr doesn't fit this game

 

[Dessolos]

Technically this game is a Swinging game not ntr
Ntr doesn't fit this game

Do you mean sharing? As there is no Swinging scenes but there is sharing with consent. But you know how people on this site are sharing , swinging = NTR to them so easier just to call it as such even if it isn't.

 

[6ambino]

( I mean predators came to her and wait for minutes hours!! until she gets a approval from MC to get a blowjob, such a good guys )

Dominick guy is truly my hero, such dedication. He has a mundane appearance, yet a heart filled with love and passion. I want to know how many gloryholes he drilled all around the New York.

BTW. There were quite loud a while ago about guys that were way more crazy. Also in New York, also drilling holes, and also good-natured, very pious.

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[mommysboiii]

Technically this game is a Swinging game not ntr
Ntr doesn't fit this game

technically this a ntr game unless you ignore the whole plot like some other guys here

sure if the plot dosent exist or the dev change the whole story midway and the couple does a bit swinging/hot-wiving/sharing than I would agree with you (but than i wish the netorare tag disappears because i found this gaming searching for ntrand add the swinging tag)

but if you look at the plot that is centered around mc boss ,drugs , the hole shop/my fav neighbor/woman getting trained for work??? , some woman in basement/previous tenant ???? ,corrupted police,warnings .......

all responsible by mcs boss i guess.....

it seems its a netorare game (I hope at least) unless the whole plot disappears I guess...

 

[Dessolos]

One thing I really like about this game and what Bobby is creating it how I enjoy this game for the NTR as much as the non paths. yeah I play this game for Kathryn and the hotwife / sharing at least at first I did. Even if the non Ntr path is my first path I play during updates now but that's cause I ended up liking Kathryn and Luke's relationship alot more than I thought I would. I first started playing this for the sharing / NTR and along the way found my preference changed. But if that aspect was ever removed it wouldn't be as fun or enjoyable to me cause the NTR path has alot more fun and hot scenes to enjoy. One of the few games I can say I actually play a bit for the lewds even tho they don't matter to me but Bobby has a way that makes the scenes really hot and enjoyable for someone that doesn't care about lewds. While the non NTR path I don't enjoy for the lewds but for having a nice wholesome and faithful healthy relationship.

As one of my absolute favorite things to come across in an AVN is when a LI gives me a girlfriend vibe over Love Interest which Bobby has done with Kathryn not many dev's or LI has managed to give me that feeling. (I want to say maybe only 10 or less LI give me that feeling to lazy to check my List) So when I come across a LI like that even in a NTR game I do my best to keep both parties as faithful as a dev will allow me to. If I can't I keep my MC faithful at least on my save , while the other save or saves are for the other aspects of the game and how it's meant to be played more.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

It boggles my fucking mind when people say choices don't matter. Just because there aren't consequences yet doesn't mean they don't matter.

This game already has tons of choices I feel like people are judging this more harshly than other games.

I think a lot of it comes down to player expectations and agency. I know these are porn games and I don't want to overthink it, but it wouldn't hurt all games to be more clear on the intended player perspective. Do we play a character that is an avatar for ourselves and that we have full agency over? Or are we playing a game with characters that are fully realized and our choices only choose the flavor of their story? I don't think there's a wrong answer to this question, but I do think it can get confusing for players. Do we have full control over such things as who the characters have sex with? Or are we only able to gently guide the characters along a predetermined path?

I suspect that a lot of players come into these games expecting much more of a sandbox experience in which they have a lot of control and there's quick consequence over their choices. But I can see how it would be better/easier for a dev to have a more contained experience in which player agency over the characters is limited. Both can be effective and interesting, but I think they need to be clearly communicated to the player.

 

[Joshy92]

technically this a ntr game unless you ignore the whole plot like some other guys here

sure if the plot dosent exist or the dev change the whole story midway and the couple does a bit swinging/hot-wiving/sharing than I would agree with you (but than i wish the netorare tag disappears because i found this gaming searching for ntrand add the swinging tag)

but if you look at the plot that is centered around mc boss ,drugs , the hole shop/my fav neighbor/woman getting trained for work??? , some woman in basement/previous tenant ???? ,corrupted police,warnings .......

all responsible by mcs boss i guess.....

it seems its a netorare game (I hope at least) unless the whole plot disappears I guess...

We had this argument before if Luke is into it, it's not ntr even the comments & reviews at the start of this thread mention this has a hotwife feel to it.

Sure, it can have ntr moments but for now it's netorase. Look at all the scenes involving other men so far.

 

[xcalibar4]

Choices do matter much more than in a lot of other games.

I hope that is the case cause I am loving the story so far, it has a great corruption vibe in it for both Luke and Kathryn. I think it's one of those games where choices started to matter in the end. I don't like too many branches in game with 100 plus ending with only one line. For me few endings with large epilogue feels complete ending.

And choices for Kathryn to cheat are coming later.

Glad to hear it.

 

[Joshy92]

I hope that is the case cause I am loving the story so far, it has a great corruption vibe in it for both Luke and Kathryn. I think it's one of those games where choices started to matter in the end. I don't like too many branches in game with 100 plus ending with only one line. For me few endings with large epilogue feels complete ending.


Glad to hear it.

Honestly, I'm not a fan of making choices as Kathryn, I think it would be better if our choices as Luke determines how Kathryn acts but that might be because of my hatred for female protagonist games lol.

 

[xcalibar4]

Yeah I can try to understand your hate (most of them gets abandoned or suck or in RPGM), but as a corruption genre fan I had to play as FMC a lot but male based corruption games are either Netori or Netorase or very confusing games. I play all type to NTR as an extension of corruption.

As this game till now is Netorase and I think we will have choices for Luke way more than Kathryn.

I felt kind of funny when Luke found out he has THAT fetish not every netorase game does it right.

 

[TimoF965]

but it wouldn't hurt all games to be more clear on the intended player perspective.

Love your whole comment, you are right. But here, Bobby did quite a good (even not complete) description, what this game is all about. In other games it is not even clear if you are playing a male or female character, let alone a VN- or sandbox-style.
I sometimes even think the creators did not make up their mind about the game settings and are sometimes not even capable of this... when I read their idiotic dialogues.
Bobby is much better with this .