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TimoF965

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if I really like a character I wouldn't mind if it keept on going even if the quality did suffer , as I just want more interactions with said character and couldn't care less for a ending haha.
Ok, very few games also provoke that reaction in me. The amount of quality-loss must not be too high though.
But many games do not offer one or both of the necessary ingredients for such a game: a very likable MC and a good story.
If someone would be able to write an adult VN like The Lord Of The Rings or Star Trek Voyager, let him lenghten his game ad infinum, but most plots are so poorly written that it would be better for a shorter game.

Yeah, in theory, I would not need any ending at all. But if Bobby has decided to keep this game rather short because he feels it will keep the quality higher then I thank him for this.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Same goes for dicks. What's about all those arm long dicks? At least have some variety.
One additional thing that the creator is doing well in this game. The Hobo and the MC for example do have bigger dicks, but nothing that unrealistic.
This frustrates me too, but there's actually a technical reason. In Daz, bigger dicks are actually easier to work with; they're easier to align and most of the pre-made poses require certain giant-sized dicks. A realistic dick is harder to work with for a lot of reasons, one of which is that it can create a lot of clipping issues because the bodies need to be closer. With a long dick, the two models can be posed in such a way that they don't overlap as much.

That may be a minor consideration, but it definitely contributes to the epidemic of huge dicks.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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This frustrates me too, but there's actually a technical reason. In Daz, bigger dicks are actually easier to work with; they're easier to align and most of the pre-made poses require certain giant-sized dicks. A realistic dick is harder to work with for a lot of reasons, one of which is that it can create a lot of clipping issues because the bodies need to be closer. With a long dick, the two models can be posed in such a way that they don't overlap as much.

That may be a minor consideration, but it definitely contributes to the epidemic of huge dicks.
Everything he said - and past that, bigger dicks are easier to put in "porno style poses" - where their bodies are far apart and legs are open for the viewer. - mind you, that's not how real people have sex but it's the difference between having sex naturally and having sex for a camera.
 

Joshy92

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I don't mind the big dicks because I want to see Kathryn shoving one of those behemoths up her vagina.
I'm getting hard just thinking about it.
 

mommysboiii

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This frustrates me too, but there's actually a technical reason. In Daz, bigger dicks are actually easier to work with; they're easier to align and most of the pre-made poses require certain giant-sized dicks. A realistic dick is harder to work with for a lot of reasons, one of which is that it can create a lot of clipping issues because the bodies need to be closer. With a long dick, the two models can be posed in such a way that they don't overlap as much.

That may be a minor consideration, but it definitely contributes to the epidemic of huge dicks.
I heard that before.... :cry:
 
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This frustrates me too, but there's actually a technical reason. In Daz, bigger dicks are actually easier to work with; they're easier to align and most of the pre-made poses require certain giant-sized dicks. A realistic dick is harder to work with for a lot of reasons, one of which is that it can create a lot of clipping issues because the bodies need to be closer. With a long dick, the two models can be posed in such a way that they don't overlap as much.

That may be a minor consideration, but it definitely contributes to the epidemic of huge dicks.
Wow, extremely interesting insight! Thanks for sharing, I've never thought about this. And yes, I'm among those who wish upon more realistic dicks in VNs. It's been a LONG fight. Ah, the irony :ROFLMAO:
 

TimoF965

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they're easier to align and most of the pre-made poses require certain giant-sized dicks.
I am still learning about game design with current frameworks: Never thought about pre-made positions for 3D-models. Some time ago I even learnes that most artists do not create their models but simply buy them and just adjust some scales to make them "unique".
Thanks for the insight, makes sense.

A realistic dick is harder to work with for a lot of reasons, one of which is that it can create a lot of clipping issues because the bodies need to be closer.
So here as well, it is partly the same reason as in porn movies: Bigger dicks, better for the camera/viewer.
And the lazy creator even goes with pre-defined poses and sizes.

With all the aides, one sometimes wonder how there can be VN out there with ugly models and unrealistic poses ;) .
 

Joshy92

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Realistic dicks? You guys want Kathryn to bang a little wormy? I want her to shove a fucking whale sized cock up her coochie.
I want it all stretched out when I enter her.
 
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Prayforme

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Realistic dicks? You guys want Kathryn to bang a little wormy? I want her to shove a fucking whale sized cock up her coochie.
I want it all stretched out when I enter her.
One question, bro, for what? I guess dicks don't have to be the size of a horse's dick. It should be a medium size. Only cuckold heroes like Dylan from AWAM should have small dicks :LOL:
 
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Joshy92

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One question, bro, for what? I guess dicks don't have to be the size of a horse's dick. It should be a medium size. Only cuckold heroes like Dylan from AWAM should have small dicks :LOL:
Well, I was exaggerating but for me cuckold scenes only really work if the guy has a bigger dick and is better at sex.
I like the thrill of lending her to a "superior male".

I mean I want to see Kathryn with lots of guys, but it just won't hit the same for me if the dudes are normal guys.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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And the lazy creator even goes with pre-defined poses and sizes.
This isn't a fair critique. Yeah, there are many lazy developers, but using pre-made poses is not lazy. Posing is incredibly difficult and time consuming, and no pre-made pose is ever perfect. In my experience, the pre-made poses are great for getting you 80% of what you want and it's up to dev to customize it as needed. If you made everything from scratch your game would never get off the ground, these assets exist for a good reason. Daz is a very tedious and clunky program to work with, without these tools it would be near impossible for a quality game to get made. If we criticize amateur devs for using pre-made poses then we may as well criticize authors for using a word processor when they could really write their novel by hand and spell check with a dictionary.
 

sagerock820

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The poses are made for the generic DAZ models, no one uses those. Adjustments always need to be made and it's not always a quick job.
 
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TimoF965

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but using pre-made poses is not lazy.
Let me state it more precisely: If you are a lazy creator, then you will probably go only(!) for the pre-made poses without any or much customization. If you are one, you will propably not do this:
and it's up to dev to customize it as needed.
no one uses those.
"No one" is impossible. I think we can agree that almost no creator that puts effort in his release uses them.

Let me summarize: I am not saying that many devs are lazy and I am not sayin that using predefined scenes and customizing them is lazy.

But I am saying if you are a lazy creator, you don't even have to create poses yourself but are able to only use predefined ones.
And yes, I have startes to play bad VNs that hat only 2 different poses at all that were reused everywhere. Just talking about them, not about Bobby or other good creators.

GingerSweetGirl: Are you ok with this?
 
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Really loved the scene with Rika and Mr Santini (I always thought this type of corruption scene will show up in corruption VN but it never did).

Most scenes are good but I get a vibe of Inside Jennifer by Inceton where choices don't matter much. I feel like the author wants us very hard to go to Netorase path. Also I tried to play the good route but results were almost same (I think in this route she kind of becoming an exhibitionist).

There's no cheating route for Kathryn. There was few choices directly made by Kathryn so I thought there is a chance to corrupt her without asking the MC's permission. It's lovely to see her asking for permission from the MC whenever she is in any lewd scenario but it kind of getting lame now ( I mean predators came to her and wait for minutes hours!! until she gets a approval from MC to get a blowjob, such a good guys ;) )
 

Joshy92

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Really loved the scene with Rika and Mr Santini (I always thought this type of corruption scene will show up in corruption VN but it never did).

Most scenes are good but I get a vibe of Inside Jennifer by Inceton where choices don't matter much. I feel like the author wants us very hard to go to Netorase path. Also I tried to play the good route but results were almost same (I think in this route she kind of becoming an exhibitionist).

There's no cheating route for Kathryn. There was few choices directly made by Kathryn so I thought there is a chance to corrupt her without asking the MC's permission. It's lovely to see her asking for permission from the MC whenever she is in any lewd scenario but it kind of getting lame now ( I mean predators came to her and wait for minutes hours!! until she gets a approval from MC to get a blowjob, such a good guys ;) )
Choices do matter much more than in a lot of other games. And choices for Kathryn to cheat are coming later.
 

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Really loved the scene with Rika and Mr Santini (I always thought this type of corruption scene will show up in corruption VN but it never did).

Most scenes are good but I get a vibe of Inside Jennifer by Inceton where choices don't matter much. I feel like the author wants us very hard to go to Netorase path. Also I tried to play the good route but results were almost same (I think in this route she kind of becoming an exhibitionist).

There's no cheating route for Kathryn. There was few choices directly made by Kathryn so I thought there is a chance to corrupt her without asking the MC's permission. It's lovely to see her asking for permission from the MC whenever she is in any lewd scenario but it kind of getting lame now ( I mean predators came to her and wait for minutes hours!! until she gets a approval from MC to get a blowjob, such a good guys ;) )
Katie will get corrupted a bit later on, the process takes time, be patient. And there will be pure Netorare routes, don't sweat about that.
 
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