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Pr0GamerJohnny

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All perfect except for the reluctant part. I'm never shy or reluctant about what turns me on lol.

Great picture btw I love it.
That's true, and I hate that theme myself as well. If you're gonna go for something, do it full throttle, though I think that's more of an ntr game theme in that external observers like seeing a guy like "welll babe im not so sure about this :unsure: "
 
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Dessolos

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i hate drugs in games, removes all the hotness because they're just doing it like a robot....
yeah drugs and even blackmail to a smaller extent in these games reminds me of free use porn and to me it's really boring might as well just have sex with a sex doll at that point. The only way I can see myself even liking any kind of drugs in any game not just this one is if it's done with consent by both parties even then it depends on what it is.
 
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mommysboiii

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yeah drugs and even blackmail to a smaller extent in these games reminds me of free use porn and to me it's really boring might as well just have sex with a sex doll at that point. The only way I can see myself even liking any kind of drugs in any game not just this one is if it's done with consent by both parties even then it depends on what it is.
i hate drugs in games, removes all the hotness because they're just doing it like a robot....
Yeah I understand you both hate netorare and the whole plot of the story but you like the cute couple

and hope that the whole story/city will turn into a wholesome place with hotwiving/cucking

Cops magicly turn good:) boss turns into a nice guy:),cem changes job:),the apartmant turns into a big swinger club......

And they lived happily until the end in the city
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Dessolos

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Yeah I understand you both hate netorare and the whole plot of the story but you like the cute couple

and hope that the whole story/city will turn into a wholesome place with hotwiving/cucking

Cops magicly turn good:) boss turns into a nice guy:),cem changes job:),the apartmant turns into a big swinger club......

And they lived happily until the end in the city
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not liking the drug aspect does not mean I hate netorare wouldn't be playing this game if I did, no idea why you would assume that. I just dont like the use of them to get netorare content but doesn't mean I will skip it cause I might dislike something. I was more more saying I dislike it cause it feels boring and a easy way to achieve it. Not like im demanding it gone or anything im just stating my opinion about the subject. So don't put words in my mouth.

In fact while I do love the wholesome and romantic scenes more. I really do like the dark aspect of this game too and yeah I know the drugs are apart of that , doesn't mean I have to like it I just have to accept it which I have. I don't play these games really for the porn so I really find stuff like drugs a boring way to get there. As I am all about the journey to get there and the context of a scene but once the lewd stuff happens I don't care one way or another most of the time even if I find it hot or exciting. As I enjoyed the way the MC got there more than the scene it's self , only very few lewd scenes I cared about in AVN's.

Of course context matters , cause there may be certain situations where I don't find drugs boring. But for example the Rika scene in the last update while I would of skipped it anyways cause I want to remain faithful on that save. I did view it before I reloaded and I found her getting really horny cause she took drugs boring as hell because it took away the journey or any kind of build up to get to the lewd scene. I also dislike slutty characters that fuck right away but I much rather a character being a slut and fuck the first 5miniutes they meet a MC than drugs at least there is a little flirting or excitement or small amount of build up like them teasing.

Point is you like what you like I like what I like but just cause I dislike something does not mean I hate a certain part of the game automatically and want everything to be magic and rainbows. So please don't assume and put words in my mouth. Besides I never was attacking your opinion I was just stating mine and agreeing with Pr0GamerJohnny
 

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not liking the drug aspect does not mean I hate netorare wouldn't be playing this game if I did, no idea why you would assume that. I just dont like the use of them to get netorare content but doesn't mean I will skip it cause I might dislike something. I was more more saying I dislike it cause it feels boring and a easy way to achieve it. Not like im demanding it gone or anything im just stating my opinion about the subject. So don't put words in my mouth.

In fact while I do love the wholesome and romantic scenes more. I really do like the dark aspect of this game too and yeah I know the drugs are apart of that , doesn't mean I have to like it I just have to accept it which I have. I don't play these games really for the porn so I really find stuff like drugs a boring way to get there. As I am all about the journey to get there and the context of a scene but once the lewd stuff happens I don't care one way or another most of the time even if I find it hot or exciting. As I enjoyed the way the MC got there more than the scene it's self , only very few lewd scenes I cared about in AVN's.

Of course context matters , cause there may be certain situations where I don't find drugs boring. But for example the Rika scene in the last update while I would of skipped it anyways cause I want to remain faithful on that save. I did view it before I reloaded and I found her getting really horny cause she took drugs boring as hell because it took away the journey or any kind of build up to get to the lewd scene. I also dislike slutty characters that fuck right away but I much rather a character being a slut and fuck the first 5miniutes they meet a MC than drugs at least there is a little flirting or excitement or small amount of build up like them teasing.

Point is you like what you like I like what I like but just cause I dislike something does not mean I hate a certain part of the game automatically and want everything to be magic and rainbows. So please don't assume and put words in my mouth. Besides I never was attacking your opinion I was just stating mine and agreeing with Pr0GamerJohnny
They are just so used to fight the good NTR-fight that they go on the barricades the moment someone remotely starts to criticize anything.
I dislike this drug-plot as well only because it involves LIs, not because of possible NTR, but because it becomes the reason these girls fuck around, not the corruption, the finding their kink, maybe even finding other men that are actually not just disgusting rapists...
It's a black or white world for these people, and they will die on their side of the hill.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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Yeah I understand you both hate netorare and the whole plot of the story but you like the cute couple

and hope that the whole story/city will turn into a wholesome place with hotwiving/cucking

Cops magicly turn good:) boss turns into a nice guy:),cem changes job:),the apartmant turns into a big swinger club......

And they lived happily until the end in the city
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Bro it's not that I hate netorare, I mean i do and we've talked about that before - but IMO drugs are bad even MORE so in an NTR context since it removes all the emotional sting of the girl doing something like cheating. Which is worse, a girl fucking around with another guy because she's forced to or because she wants to?

IMO drugs and NTR aren't bedfellows, drugs and fem-protag/corruption stuff are.

happily until the end? This is some false dichotomy, it's not like that.
 
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sagerock820

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Not a fan of cheating nor the drugs. Fucking around with someone drugged up, is close to rape, depending on the drugs. I don't care if it's in the game, so long as it's on it's own route.
 

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Where did you get that walkthrough from?
Sorry I was not clear enough. I meant should I try making a walkthrough. The screenshot was a test.
For the most part the choices are pretty clear in the so not sure worth making a walkthrough.
 

TimoF965

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Which is worse, a girl fucking around with another guy because she's forced to or because she wants to?
IMO drugs and NTR aren't bedfellows, drugs and fem-protag/corruption stuff are.
You are right. I think, generally, a girl being forced is worse, but regarding NTR, her doing it reluctabtly is worse. Thanks for thinking this trough.
 

TheUberstuff

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You are right. I think, generally, a girl being forced is worse, but regarding NTR, her doing it reluctabtly is worse. Thanks for thinking this trough.
hmmmm I am torn, I don't like the forced stuff but the reluctant stuff is kind of hot. What I can't stand though is a girl hating doing it then after 1 or 2 times loving it seems very unrealistic to me.
 
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TimoF965

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I don't like the forced stuff but the reluctant stuff is kind of hot.
just be be clear: With "worse" I do not want to say that I do not like it. It was about what would be the worser "punishment" for the girl/her boyfriend. If you take the general perspective of a girl, I think being forced is worse for her than being drugged or just doing it reluctantly. But from an NTR-boyfriend-perspective, her doing it gladly or reluctantly is worse for him than her doing it forced or drugged - because she does not betray their love. But on the other hand, he suffers because he cannot protect her from something she does not want, but this is no NTR-aspect. It is more an beta-male-fetish, I guess, not being able to protect your loved ones.

What I can't stand though is a girl hating doing it then after 1 or 2 times loving it seems very unrealistic to me.
Oh yeah, I totally agree! Or she was already completly raped multiple times and was just reluctant (no trauma or so), did not cry, even felt she likes is "strangely" and then in another scene, a guy just touches her butt and she she goes wild about it... so that the creator can buld up the reluctance-liking-circle again.
 

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just be be clear: With "worse" I do not want to say that I do not like it. It was about what would be the worser "punishment" for the girl/her boyfriend. If you take the general perspective of a girl, I think being forced is worse for her than being drugged or just doing it reluctantly. But from an NTR-boyfriend-perspective, her doing it gladly or reluctantly is worse for him than her doing it forced or drugged - because she does not betray their love. But on the other hand, he suffers because he cannot protect her from something she does not want, but this is no NTR-aspect. It is more an beta-male-fetish, I guess, not being able to protect your loved ones.


Oh yeah, I totally agree! Or she was already completly raped multiple times and was just reluctant (no trauma or so), did not cry, even felt she likes is "strangely" and then in another scene, a guy just touches her butt and she she goes wild about it... so that the creator can buld up the reluctance-liking-circle again.
ah yes I completely agree with the perspectives, sorry I was just going off of what I like :)
 
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Very on point. Down to the sets even!

I need to learn where to get these assets. I see the same environments across so many games.



 
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