VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.6.2 Halloween Special] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[sagerock820]

The option to let another man do it would be cool too. Options are always better.

So long as it's optional.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

You are definetly more tolerant than I, bro!

Thanks fo clarifying. I think the magic happens with the word "something". I can life much better with this.
But to be true, I also love an unclear choice sometimes(!). Like what do next: Go to the store or workout? If it happens to much, it feels like the creator thriowing undetermind events at you. But if it happens sometimes, I like even being raped becaus I went to the store that got raided by a gang and I am their victim. So even if the content is not foreseeable and it leads to extreme consequences, I don't want to know beforehand (if this is done well, logically and not too excessive).

What do you think about this ? Do you want control, or a surprise from time to time ?

heh, well, I'm not a fan of rape content, so to me that scenario you gave doesn't really resonate. Sure, I like surprises with choices, but the type of surprises we can adapt to once they happen.

Fair enough I just almost lost it when she said 'make both of us happy and shoot gallons of your hot cum deep inside my womb'.

Talk about sexy writing.

There's that cuck talk again! I mean, sure, it's sexy writing. But in the grand scheme of things, just wasn't something that stood out for me.

Honestly that shower scene made me look forward to future updates on the no sharing path. As she said she wants to have a baby with Luke normally im not into impregnation or creampie's but Kathryn makes things im not into hot. Not just that I think it be a very wholesome and romantic thing for the couple.

I'm definitely into impregnation, so stuff like this I really like.

 

[Dessolos]

You are definetly more tolerant than I, bro!

haha well it was because of the context of scene it's self why I don't. For me context is key. In that scene she had no idea it wasn't Luke doing things to her , so I dont count it as such.

I could go along with that, so long as it's Luke's baby.

o for sure im not Joshy I dont want to take care of a hobo's baby besides she only says that if you are on the no sharing path. So would seem unlikely to be another man's kid on that path, but maybe Joshy will get his wish and will have that option on the other path too.

 

[TimoF965]

haha well it was because of the context of scene it's self why I don't. For me context is key. In that scene she had no idea it wasn't Luke doing things to her , so I dont count it as such.

Ok, if that' what you ment, I can relate to it. THought you were speaking in genereal .

 

[Joshy92]

heh, well, I'm not a fan of rape content, so to me that scenario you gave doesn't really resonate. Sure, I like surprises with choices, but the type of surprises we can adapt to once they happen.



There's that cuck talk again! I mean, sure, it's sexy writing. But in the grand scheme of things, just wasn't something that stood out for me.


I'm definitely into impregnation, so stuff like this I really like.

Dude what a coincidence because I'm very into impregnation stuff too
I certainly wouldn't complain if we get that option in this awesome game.

I was excited when Bobby said we will get the option for humiliation stuff before as well.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Dude what a coincidence because I'm very into impregnation stuff too
I certainly wouldn't complain if we get that option in this awesome game.

I was excited when Bobby said we will get the option for humiliation stuff before as well.

And when that happens, Joshy will look at his watch and proudly announce, "It's cuck-thirty!"

 

[TimoF965]

heh, well, I'm not a fan of rape content, so to me that scenario you gave doesn't really resonate. Sure, I like surprises with choices, but the type of surprises we can adapt to once they happen.

I was just taking an extreme example. If not rape, take death of an protagonist (you boyfriend being shot by the robbers) or losing your memory for a while - whatever. Just something drastic that you did not see coming.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I was just taking an extreme example. If not rape, take death of an protagonist (you boyfriend being shot by the robbers) or losing your memory for a while - whatever. Just something drastic that you did not see coming.

Sure, I can see at times where that would be alright. So long as it's not from a choice made at the beginning of the game and only happening several chapters later. I hate when devs do that shit.

 

[Bobbyboy48]

Hey Bobbyboy48 maybe you could make what-if scenarios as extra chapters you can select from the main menu, showing what scenes would be like if Kathryn doesn't refuse with the flasher or the gloryhole at the cinema, Luke doesn't put a stop to things in the alley, the kissing in the park, the sex shop gloryhole, etc., and if Alex didn't cum as fast, the cops didn't arrive, her train doesn't arrive at her stop as fast, etc., and all other scenes that are technically interrupted or over too soon now and in future chapters.

i think this would be a lot of fun, would satisfy everyone who wanted scenes to continue with your writing quality, yet wouldn't mess with the flow of your story.

I've thought about this sort of thing a lot since I started working on this game. Putting something like that in before it is done would completely ruin the game for a lot of players. I've seen interviews with directors and writers say that people don't know what they really want, they just think they know and I agree with that completely. I think most people like the slow burn and how things slowly progress while getting to know the characters intimately along the way. It makes the payoff later on infinitely more enjoyable and exciting. I know a few of you might scoff at this and disagree with me and that's fine. I'm not saying I know better than you but I do know for me in AVNs, I lose interest very quickly if I see the characters go all the way right from the start. I feel like the only players that would truly benefit from this are the ones that don't pay any attention to the story and dialog and just hammer the spacebar looking for sex scenes.

If I put something like this in, it would be after the game is complete and would only unlock after the player has played through all the chapters. Again, I'm not saying I'm right and anyone that disagrees is wrong as it's a very subjective thing. What do you guys think?

 

[Bobbyboy48]

Fair enough I just almost lost it when she said 'make both of us happy and shoot gallons of your hot cum deep inside my womb'.

Talk about sexy writing.

I'm not gonna lie, I actually thought about you Joshy when I wrote that line

 

[Joshy92]

I'm not gonna lie, I actually thought about you Joshy when I wrote that line

I loved it bro. I get really excited when a LI in a game with sharing talks like that.

 

[Dessolos]

I've thought about this sort of thing a lot since I started working on this game. Putting something like that in before it is done would completely ruin the game for a lot of players. I've seen interviews with directors and writers say that people don't know what they really want, they just think they know and I agree with that completely. I think most people like the slow burn and how things slowly progress while getting to know the characters intimately along the way. It makes the payoff later on infinitely more enjoyable and exciting. I know a few of you might scoff at this and disagree with me and that's fine. I'm not saying I know better than you but I do know for me in AVNs, I lose interest very quickly if I see the characters go all the way right from the start. I feel like the only players that would truly benefit from this are the ones that don't pay any attention to the story and dialog and just hammer the spacebar looking for sex scenes.

If I put something like this in, it would be after the game is complete and would only unlock after the player has played through all the chapters. Again, I'm not saying I'm right and anyone that disagrees is wrong as it's a very subjective thing. What do you guys think?

Here is my 2 cents / thoughts

i'm a player that likes slow burn NTR games or no NTR games and I don't like it when a LI is quick to have sex with the MC. Makes me less inclined to play their path until I played everyone else's path. When it comes to NTR / sharing games I do much prefer the slow burn approach like this game instead of a LI being already experienced enough and willing from the start. So I fully agree with the direction you been taking the game in, it kind of feels hotter in a way because of the anticipation when it does happen. So even scenes that never finish all the way like the subway were good I thought despite players being disappointed. Tho my favorite is when Kathryn teases men like in this update with the landlord or during the webcam interviews.

With all that being said I do think it would of been fine with the context of a few scenes if she did go all the way or least till completion as a 3rd option for other players. Doesn't mean it needs to happen everytime and can still take things slow but the context was there to make sense I thought. 2 scenes that come to mind.

The gloryhole during this update the context was there were I honestly did expect her to get fucked. To me what would make sense as a adjustment is to add a third option during the BJ from Clem to hold off on cumming and if you do so Luke arrives even later than normal.

Then there is the subway scene where id personally like it how it never goes to completion but I do admit the context was there where it could of been done to completion.

Even if those 2 scenes were done differently I don't see it being any less slow burn or any reason why it can't remain as slow burn either.

But when it comes to adding what if scenario's my opinion is a bit mixed on that , at least where the game is right now it is. I do like the idea eventually but not sure if I do right now. Because if you add those what if scenes not only does it make deveolopment time take longer but then players might start expecting action more than they do right now just because they exist before Kathryn does in the story.

So if you want to add them I think it's best to add them after the game is completed or after Kathryn starts to get more action in the story. As I hate the players to have more expectations on this thread of action just because those scenes exist and I want you to tell the story how you want and Kathryn to finally have sex with other men when you feel it's a good time. Even tho I doubt you would let other players influence you and speed things along I would hate for there to be a chance of that because they now have more expectations do to those what if scenes.

 

[sagerock820]

Yeah, I have to agree. It's not fun when the sex starts happening too quickly. I'm fine with slow burn, so long as it's a good balance. I've played some games that the slow burn took way too long. I do also think that it would have been good if the gloryhole scene had an option for it to go further.

 

[Joshy92]

Honestly I would have lost interest and dismissed the game if Kath was having wild sex with strangers in like chapter two or three. It would have felt like some shitty porn game.

Build up is always good imo. And it's done here really well.

 

[Filipis]

So long as it's optional.

Technically, there should be 3 options to satisfy all of us degenerates:

1. The Pure Path: Luke impregnates Kathryn;
2. The Sharing (Joshy92) Path: Luke can let someone else impregnate Kathryn (on his own volition, or Kathryn's);
3. The Cheating (NTR) Path: Kathryn lets someone else impregnate her (on her own volition, behind Luke's back, out of spite/lust) and keeps it a secret from Luke.

There, I fixed it.

 

[Joshy92]

Technically, there should be 3 options to satisfy all of us degenerates:

1. The Pure Path: Luke impregnates Kathryn;
2. The Sharing (Joshy92) Path: Luke can let someone else impregnate Kathryn (on his own volition, or Kathryn's);
3. The Cheating (NTR) Path: Kathryn lets someone else impregnate her (on her own volition, behind Luke's back, out of spite/lust) and keeps it a secret from Luke.

There, I fixed it.

The amount of games that offer that second option are really rare unfortunately.

 

[Ray Garraty]

the slow burn and how things slowly progress while getting to know the characters intimately along the way

Right thinking!

 

[DarkDaemonX]

Here is my 2 cents / thoughts

i'm a player that likes slow burn NTR games or no NTR games and I don't like it when a LI is quick to have sex with the MC. Makes me less inclined to play their path until I played everyone else's path. When it comes to NTR / sharing games I do much prefer the slow burn approach like this game instead of a LI being already experienced enough and willing from the start. So I fully agree with the direction you been taking the game in, it kind of feels hotter in a way because of the anticipation when it does happen. So even scenes that never finish all the way like the subway were good I thought despite players being disappointed. Tho my favorite is when Kathryn teases men like in this update with the landlord or during the webcam interviews.

With all that being said I do think it would of been fine with the context of a few scenes if she did go all the way or least till completion as a 3rd option for other players. Doesn't mean it needs to happen everytime and can still take things slow but the context was there to make sense I thought. 2 scenes that come to mind.

The gloryhole during this update the context was there were I honestly did expect her to get fucked. To me what would make sense as a adjustment is to add a third option during the BJ from Clem to hold off on cumming and if you do so Luke arrives even later than normal.

Then there is the subway scene where id personally like it how it never goes to completion but I do admit the context was there where it could of been done to completion.

Even if those 2 scenes were done differently I don't see it being any less slow burn or any reason why it can't remain as slow burn either.

But when it comes to adding what if scenario's my opinion is a bit mixed on that , at least where the game is right now it is. I do like the idea eventually but not sure if I do right now. Because if you add those what if scenes not only does it make deveolopment time take longer but then players might start expecting action more than they do right now just because they exist before Kathryn does in the story.

So if you want to add them I think it's best to add them after the game is completed or after Kathryn starts to get more action in the story. As I hate the players to have more expectations on this thread of action just because those scenes exist and I want you to tell the story how you want and Kathryn to finally have sex with other men when you feel it's a good time. Even tho I doubt you would let other players influence you and speed things along I would hate for there to be a chance of that because they now have more expectations do to those what if scenes.

For example, she has already given a blowjob and exposed herself in the alley, so the what-if scenes of taking her tits out in chapter 1 and the cinema gloryhole blowjob and the train blowjob wouldn't go too far, as at this point in the story she could've already done those things, I agree that only creating the what-if scenes to the point of things she's already done is perfect, no one would lose interest then.

Another what-if scene I thought of that doesn't go further than she already went is the kissing in the park, Luke doesn't stop it and she is convinced to blow him.

What-if scenes could even have a "to be continued" if it will go further than she already went in the main game, these scenarios could get quite lengthy after all.

I also agree that Luke holding back his orgasm should let him arrive even later, but Bobby never goes back to add new choices, so that will sadly never happen, even though if Luke keeps it to himself and doesn't let her know it wasn't him won't affect Kat's progression, only Luke's, so it would still be fine.

 

[TimoF965]

What do you guys think?

What he says:

Because if you add those what if scenes not only does it make deveolopment time take longer but then players might start expecting action more than they do right now just because they exist before Kathryn does in the story.

with emphasis on the first part: Development time.
It is nice to add, but what benefit does it bring? It lets you put in sex scenes that destroy the slow burn in a way. AdditionalIy, it is non-canonical, so no benefit to the story. It takes your time.
If I wanted that, I could watch fan-art. Or real porn, even "bettee".

I don't like it when a LI is quick to have sex with the MC.

There are a few situations I like it. If the sex is not the main goal. Like in an NTR game, if t0it is sex with the boyfriend. Or if it is vanilla sex. Or if it is really good put into the story (few get it right, most of the do what you say, destroying the fun of exploration.)

say that people don't know what they really want, they just think they know

Sooo true! I know if i like a game, if it is good. But it is hard to say why and impossible to me to say what would be concretly better.

The Cheating (NTR) Path: Kathryn lets someone else impregnate her

All good, except the impregnation .

What do I have to do to get a path named after myself ?

 

[Filipis]

All good, except the impregnation .

What do I have to do to get a path named after myself ?

I suppose each of those routes could be split two-way even further, with all of them ending in either Kathryn impregnated/pregnant or no impregnation/pregnancy.

Doesn't sound like too much extra work, literally just slap 10 more renders for each epilogue variant (so 6 in total) and we good.