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I hear ya, although I don’t consider that Ntr at all since she was just acting to help a friend. Kathryn is very social and desperate to make new friends in their new environment so she was over enthusiastic in this scene to try and win their favor. Of course this is debate-able and I’m sorry if that scene is a deal breaker.
It doesn't matter if you don't consider it NTR but what you consider or not, feel or not, doesn't disprove the fact. Being social and desperate to make new friends doesn't mean you've to go past platonic and kiss(or be intimate with other) when you've a boyfriend or in relationship. That is a poor excuse. Couldn't she call her boyfriend before kissing? Why was the boyfriend so chill when they talked about it? And there is no consequence for Kathryn behaving that way.
Boyfriend doesn't even get mad about it. these are all red flags on both sides(Kathryn and her boyfriend).

Anyway, that scene is handled poorly. And I really don't wanna tell you what you should do or not as this is YOUR game and how you handle it is YOUR choice and decision.

It doesn't align with my(No-NTR) preferences so I'm good without playing it.

Peace!
 
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It doesn't matter if you don't consider it NTR but what you consider or not, feel or not, doesn't disprove the fact. Being social and desperate to make new friends doesn't mean you've to go past platonic and kiss(or be intimate with other) when you've a boyfriend or in relationship. That is a poor excuse. Couldn't she call her boyfriend before kissing? Why was the boyfriend so chill when they talked about it? And there is no consequence for Kathryn behaving that way.
Boyfriend doesn't even get mad about it. these are all red flags on both sides(Kathryn and her boyfriend).

Anyway, that scene is handled poorly. And I really don't wanna tell you what you should do or not as this is YOUR game and how you handle it is YOUR choice and decision.

It doesn't align with my(No-NTR) preferences so I'm good without playing it.

Peace!

You are not wrong. For me its also a no go way and i support 100% your statement/opinion. Although we have to cut the Dev some slack here, because this is really just the ONLY ONE small Point in his great game and i am still playing it tho. :)
 

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You are not wrong. For me its also a no go way and i support 100% your statement/opinion. Although we have to cut the Dev some slack here, because this is really just the ONLY ONE small Point in his great game and i am still playing it tho. :)
Good for you then, not my taste.
 

Bobbyboy48

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It doesn't matter if you don't consider it NTR but what you consider or not, feel or not, doesn't disprove the fact. Being social and desperate to make new friends doesn't mean you've to go past platonic and kiss(or be intimate with other) when you've a boyfriend or in relationship. That is a poor excuse. Couldn't she call her boyfriend before kissing? Why was the boyfriend so chill when they talked about it? And there is no consequence for Kathryn behaving that way.
Boyfriend doesn't even get mad about it. these are all red flags on both sides(Kathryn and her boyfriend).

Anyway, that scene is handled poorly. And I really don't wanna tell you what you should do or not as this is YOUR game and how you handle it is YOUR choice and decision.

It doesn't align with my(No-NTR) preferences so I'm good without playing it.

Peace!
Yeah the simple fact is I disagree with you and the characters act how I write them to. These are the personalities of the characters and the moral compass they employ based on how I chose. No one is right or wrong, it’s all subjective. I appreciate your opinion, it’s just different than mine.
 

Joshy92

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I nearly came in my pants when Kathryn kissed that dude at the park.
It's going to be awesome when some dude makes love to her for the first time.

And while she is getting plowed I will look into her beautiful eyes and say 'I love you'
It's going to bring us closer as a couple.
 

Pdr602

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I nearly came in my pants when Kathryn kissed that dude at the park.
It's going to be awesome when some dude makes love to her for the first time.

And while she is getting plowed I will look into her beautiful eyes and say 'I love you'
It's going to bring us closer as a couple.
Easy tiger. It's just a game. :)
 
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Rob0bob

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Well Dev, I hope you see by now that the anti-ntr posters will never stop. You really should just ignore them. They vary so much on their personal definitions of ntr that even putting another male in the same scene as MC will trigger someone. I have said it before, but they are just virtue-signalling to themselves for some odd reason. Make your game your way, don't let them make you doubt yourself.
BTW, why don't we see the same reactions to other kinks? Why don't incest haters go into incest games and spam their hate for the subject? Or anti-harem, etc.
You have a great game DEV, keep on keeping on!
 

Bobbyboy48

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Well Dev, I hope you see by now that the anti-ntr posters will never stop. You really should just ignore them. They vary so much on their personal definitions of ntr that even putting another male in the same scene as MC will trigger someone. I have said it before, but they are just virtue-signalling to themselves for some odd reason. Make your game your way, don't let them make you doubt yourself.
BTW, why don't we see the same reactions to other kinks? Why don't incest haters go into incest games and spam their hate for the subject? Or anti-harem, etc.
You have a great game DEV, keep on keeping on!
Thanks, I appreciate that. Some people are very passionate about what they like and don't like and have a hard time dealing with other people not aligning with that. It's just a personality that some people have and it's present in a lot of different aspects of life, art, religion, politics etc. I don't have anything against people that don't like NTR, even the ones that troll or hate in the threads. At the end of the day it's just banter and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Some people just get heated and emotional, it's a big part of human nature. But yeah I'm making what I like and nothing is going to change that.
 

baka

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the importance is the personality. that should be consistent.
what we can pick is if we want to stretch her moral code or keep it intact.
to make her different in each scene to please the masses is wrong. we get a soulless girl.

also, what I hate the most if to force writers to change to please some fetish or what people don't like. it should be motivational only, like I write: "I would like her to blindfold and an obese dude with diapers licks her armpit." that should be a suggestion that if the DEV likes it he will add it. otherwise discard that shit for a better suggestion.

this, I don't like this and that, sure, its your opinion, but thats it. do not try to change the dev. u can give suggestion (that u already did) if it can be optional. but if no, its no. deal with it.
 

bandyta80

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I hear ya, although I don’t consider that Ntr at all since she was just acting to help a friend. Kathryn is very social and desperate to make new friends in their new environment so she was over enthusiastic in this scene to try and win their favor. Of course this is debate-able and I’m sorry if that scene is a deal breaker.
Kathryn is very tolerant and open to people, but above all she likes sex, in such a situation she must have a boyfriend like that who likes it, because if he was jealous alpha male he would probably kill her
 

Joshy92

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I think by the end of the game we are going to be saying it's one of the best in this genre.
I already think it is.

When I play these games one of the first things I judge is the writing & how the mc acts
And I liked both of those things straight away in this.

I meant it before when I said it's my favourite new game I have tried this year.

Ok that's enough being serious for today It's time to go back to being a horny pervert.
 

Maviarab

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Well Dev, I hope you see by now that the anti-ntr posters will never stop. You really should just ignore them. They vary so much on their personal definitions of ntr that even putting another male in the same scene as MC will trigger someone. I have said it before, but they are just virtue-signalling to themselves for some odd reason. Make your game your way, don't let them make you doubt yourself.
BTW, why don't we see the same reactions to other kinks? Why don't incest haters go into incest games and spam their hate for the subject? Or anti-harem, etc.
You have a great game DEV, keep on keeping on!
Well..I see people still can't read.

No one is complaining about NTR...it is an NTR game. What was discussed is the devs definition...and how that definition will define future content and whether or not it can/will be avoidable or like the kissing scene, whether it will be forced or not. Simple enough question and discussion, no arguments, no anti-NTR.

That make sense or do I need to type slower for you to understand?
 
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bulbor

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It doesn't matter if you don't consider it NTR but what you consider or not, feel or not, doesn't disprove the fact. Being social and desperate to make new friends doesn't mean you've to go past platonic and kiss(or be intimate with other) when you've a boyfriend or in relationship. That is a poor excuse. Couldn't she call her boyfriend before kissing? Why was the boyfriend so chill when they talked about it? And there is no consequence for Kathryn behaving that way.
Boyfriend doesn't even get mad about it. these are all red flags on both sides(Kathryn and her boyfriend).

Anyway, that scene is handled poorly. And I really don't wanna tell you what you should do or not as this is YOUR game and how you handle it is YOUR choice and decision.

It doesn't align with my(No-NTR) preferences so I'm good without playing it.

Peace!
1. Her boyfriend is encouraging her to be more naughty (flasher).
2. She tells the 2 slime-balls in the park she has a boyfriend.
3. She knows her boyfriend likes when she gets male attention.

I agree with you though about calling before kissing, that would have made sense. But it works just as well without it.
 

Maviarab

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1. Her boyfriend is encouraging her to be more naughty (flasher).
2. She tells the 2 slime-balls in the park she has a boyfriend.
3. She knows her boyfriend likes when she gets male attention.

I agree with you though about calling before kissing, that would have made sense. But it works just as well without it.
1. Only if you choose that option
2. Yet still kisses him and let's him put his arm around her, pull her close and put a hand on her thigh.
3. See number 1.

So you can see (or obviously not) on the other path...it's quite bizarre and quite frankly bad behaviour. You do understand there is more than one route in this VN yes?
 
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bulbor

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1. Only if you choose that option
2. Yet still kisses him and let's him put his arm around her, pull her close and put a hand on her thigh.
3. See number 1.

So you can see (or obviously not) on the other path...it's quite bizarre and quite frankly bad behaviour. You do understand there is more than one route in this VN yes?
You mean she does the kiss even if they dismiss the flasher? I wasn't aware that happened. In that case calling first would have been more logical. But hey, she is young, in a new city and human. Humans are good at making mistakes. Forgiving mistakes is also human.
 

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1. Her boyfriend is encouraging her to be more naughty (flasher).
2. She tells the 2 slime-balls in the park she has a boyfriend.
3. She knows her boyfriend likes when she gets male attention.

I agree with you though about calling before kissing, that would have made sense. But it works just as well without it.
Stop pinging me. There is no valid point you guys make. I ain't participating in any conversation regarding what should happen or not as the game is clearly Dev changed from avoidable NTR to NTR as Dev removed the note "This Visual novel features NTR content that is completely avoidable based on your choices." and simply won't remove kissing scene from Non-NTR route. The scene is handled poorly. Period!
 
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