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Thats fine for people who don't support the dev financially but I would bet there are people on this forum that do. You think its right that people who are PAYING for the product by donating to the dev should just patiently wait? I mean that certainly is an option but if I were a dev telling people when an update would come out or even if I didn't give a date why would I want to piss of people who currently donate or are considering donating by taking forever. That is a sure fire way to lose support and once support is lost its hard to get back. Bras are easy to replace, getting people back after screwing them over is not. A good dev communicates and gives a decent timeframe. This dev was awesome in the beginning in my view and has really slowed down and I think that makes people worried that this dev like so many others is going to just shit on the people who supported them.i'm just gonna silently drop this here... View attachment 4568708
People on Patreon aren't paying for a product, they are donating to support the dev and if they have a problem with dev times then they should unsubscribe.Thats fine for people who don't support the dev financially but I would bet there are people on this forum that do. You think its right that people who are PAYING for the product by donating to the dev should just patiently wait? I mean that certainly is an option but if I were a dev telling people when an update would come out or even if I didn't give a date why would I want to piss of people who currently donate or are considering donating by taking forever. That is a sure fire way to lose support and once support is lost its hard to get back. Bras are easy to replace, getting people back after screwing them over is not. A good dev communicates and gives a decent timeframe. This dev was awesome in the beginning in my view and has really slowed down and I think that makes people worried that this dev like so many others is going to just shit on the people who supported them.
Honestly what idiots on this site don't get is this is free advertising, its a way for devs to get known and for prospective players to test things out to see if they want to support certain products. There have been a lot of devs who simply abandon their games or take forever to get anywhere after people have given them money.... or do you think those people who gave money should not expect anything for that money?
When you ask for update - you tell a dev that you in need of it. And dev getting calm, because he feel that you felt in dependence from a game already. So devs is not working, why should he, if you arlredy belongs to him, and when you ask for an update - all you constantly get instead are delays only. Don't you get it? Be smart. ^_^ Do the opposite. Tell that you don't want the update at all. Write that you want the delay, not the update. Tell him that if an update will appear too soon you will be unhappy because of it. Don't give money to dev, ask money from dev for you to download his update. That's how it works. Psychology. If you want to know more about how to treat devs right to get what you want - order my book "how to treat devs right to get what you want", special edition, with arts, pictures, and list of hipnotic pharases of how to make any dev sick from not doing his job and milking donaters for nothing. Not an ad, cuz book don't exist. But we all need that book, because just paying to devs for getting updates in time doesn't wok, obviously.do you think those people who gave money should not expect anything for that money?
People on Patreon aren't paying for a product, they are donating to support the dev and if they have a problem with dev times then they should unsubscribe.
People just like to whine and complain.
then you are missing the point, if you say; if they have a problem with the development time of the game, then let them unsubscribe, that they like to whine and complain, you are wrong, one because it is their money, and they are investing to see the product, your point is right in saying, that the donors do not own the game but they are investing to see the product.People on Patreon aren't paying for a product, they are donating to support the dev and if they have a problem with dev times then they should unsubscribe.
People just like to whine and complain.
But what are you saying? XDWhen you ask for update - you tell a dev that you in need of it. And dev getting calm, because he feel that you felt in dependence from a game already. So devs is not working, why should he, if you arlredy belongs to him, and when you ask for an update - all you constantly get instead are delays only. Don't you get it? Be smart. ^_^ Do the opposite. Tell that you don't want the update at all. Write that you want the delay, not the update. Tell him that if an update will appear too soon you will be unhappy because of it. Don't give money to dev, ask money from dev for you to download his update. That's how it works. Psychology. If you want to know more about how to treat devs right to get what you want - order my book "how to treat devs right to get what you want", special edition, with arts, pictures, and list of hipnotic pharases of how to make any dev sick from not doing his job and milking donaters for nothing. Not an ad, cuz book don't exist. But we all need that book, because just paying to devs for getting updates in time doesn't wok, obviously.
When you ask for update - you tell a dev that you in need of it. And dev getting calm, because he feel that you felt in dependence from a game already. So devs is not working, why should he, if you arlredy belongs to him, and when you ask for an update - all you constantly get instead are delays only. Don't you get it? Be smart. ^_^ Do the opposite. Tell that you don't want the update at all. Write that you want the delay, not the update. Tell him that if an update will appear too soon you will be unhappy because of it. Don't give money to dev, ask money from dev for you to download his update. That's how it works. Psychology. If you want to know more about how to treat devs right to get what you want - order my book "how to treat devs right to get what you want", special edition, with arts, pictures, and list of hipnotic pharases of how to make any dev sick from not doing his job and milking donaters for nothing. Not an ad, cuz book don't exist. But we all need that book, because just paying to devs for getting updates in time doesn't wok, obviously.
While I agree in principle I think devs would actually rather have people complain to them than take the other route which would be them ceasing support. It also shows that people are invested in his game.People on Patreon aren't paying for a product, they are donating to support the dev and if they have a problem with dev times then they should unsubscribe.
People just like to whine and complain.
I say, and i quote myself thatBut what are you saying? XD
If you don't know any word from that sentence - feel free to ask. I will gladly teach you some ABC, if you missed that classes. ^_^paying to devs for getting updates in time doesn't wok
------------------While I agree in principle I think devs would actually rather have people complain to them than take the other route which would be them ceasing support. It also shows that people are invested in his game.
If you like the game so much, you must know it well, right? So could you please write a straight answer for one simple question about the game and your comment to it, like - where on Earth have you seen MANY different pathS there? We all can clearly see that this game's scenario is linear as a line. Whatever choices you make - it changes nothing significant there. Probably there should be different endings after all. But as for now - there are no any pathS. Just The Path, one and only. You can't replay the game to choose different options and see other scenes. All you can do by making choices - is:Some people don't understand that creative works are not as simple when it comes to VN games with different paths and choices
---------------------------If you like the game so much, you must know it well, right? So could you please write a straight answer for one simple question about the game and your comment to it, like - where on Earth have you seen MANY different pathS there? We all can clearly see that this game's scenario is linear as a line. Whatever choices you make - it changes nothing significant there. Probably there should be different endings after all. But as for now - there are no any pathS. Just The Path, one and only. You can't replay the game to choose different options and see other scenes. All you can do by making choices - is:
- to see the next scene, one and the same scene, whatever you chosen in dialogs before;
- or not to see next scene, one and the same again.
That doesn't fit to definition of "creative work under VN game with different paths". So, am sorry, but you don't look like a fan, if you don't ever tried to replay "one of your favorite games" to figure out that there still no pathS there, because most of dialog options providing fake choices.
I agree dude and besides just because there aren't any consequences for our choices yet doesn't mean there won't be any. Heck I love East block so much I created a new patreon account after I vowed never to return to that platform.---------------------------
First off, your comment is rude and I certainly don't have to answer to trolls, but I will entertain you this one time. While the choices are limited in the storyline, you cannot disregard the creative works and effort that goes into making the VN game. Can there be more complex choices and paths - sure, but this is what it is and if you don't like it DON'T play it and move on, especially if this bothers you. There are many VN games out there that may be to your liking.
As for me being a "fan" well, I'm actually a Patreon supporter and have been since the VN game came out. If I didn't enjoy the VN Game and the Dev's work, I wouldn't support the game, experience it or play it. It's that simple. If you find this hard to understand, then that's on you. I can't help that. As for my definition that his work is creative is well noted and I stand by everything I wrote, and if you don't like it and disagree that's fine, now you can move on and find something useful to do instead of trolling VN games and Devs on here. Lastly, the VN game is fiction so of course the choices are fake... lol!
If you are so particular about what type of VN game you like, I strongly suggest you create your own game. In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the next chapter of The East Block! Cheers! ;-)
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Honestly the MR. Negative Nancy troll of this thread I just give him a angry face and don't bother reading his post anymore. but glad to see someone that loves this game to spread some positivity in this thread. I been disliking this thread for quite some time even tho it's an amazing game---------------------------
First off, your comment is rude and I certainly don't have to answer to trolls, but I will entertain you this one time. While the choices are limited in the storyline, you cannot disregard the creative works and effort that goes into making the VN game. Can there be more complex choices and paths - sure, but this is what it is and if you don't like it DON'T play it and move on, especially if this bothers you. There are many VN games out there that may be to your liking.
As for me being a "fan" well, I'm actually a Patreon supporter and have been since the VN game came out. If I didn't enjoy the VN Game and the Dev's work, I wouldn't support the game, experience it or play it. It's that simple. If you find this hard to understand, then that's on you. I can't help that. As for my definition that his work is creative is well noted and I stand by everything I wrote, and if you don't like it and disagree that's fine, now you can move on and find something useful to do instead of trolling VN games and Devs on here. Lastly, the VN game is fiction so of course the choices are fake... lol!
If you are so particular about what type of VN game you like, I strongly suggest you create your own game. In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the next chapter of The East Block! Cheers! ;-)
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