Filipis
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You know, there is a surprising lack of NTR games where the FMC gets with MC's father. I hope EB will be an exception.
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Oh I'm sure that we will see that in the future, especially after seeing them dance together. He's a bit of a dick though but then that's to be expected as any decent father wouldn't touch his son's girl.
I'm all for equality though so as long as Luke gets to fuck Courtney (Kath's Mom) in return, I'm good with that.
Though any of that content will only happen on a cheating/NTR path surely.I don't think this is entirely true. Clearly sharing/netorase has been the main focus of this game so far. But the overview very clearly suggests that a cheating Luke, will result in that part of the game's focus shifting to netorare. Obviously, we're not at that point yet, because Kathryn is still unaware of Luke's betrayal. But she is showing signs of becoming suspicious of some of his actions, and has half-heartedly mused on the possibility that he might be cheating. None of that would happen if we weren't heading towards an eventual netorare route.
If you're not allowing Luke to cheat, then obviously it will never happen for you, and the game will retain it's sharing/netorase focus. Fortunately, the way the game is set up means the Dev doesn't need to add a lot of additional content, to have a separate netorare route. Mainly, all he needs to do with Kathryn's content, is have her not tell Luke in advance or have her fail to share knowledge of her adventures completely, and netorase instantly becomes netorare.
Dessolos
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eh even when cheating / NTR happens I still don't think it will be a focus of the game. I wasn't even really talking about tags but just the focus of the game. If it happens to be just as much of a focus as NTS well I think it will be very forced imo. I just have a hard time seeing Kathryn doing such a thing often without it coming across forced. I can see a few times it happening without it feeling forced.
But beyond it happening here in there for me I just can't see it not feeling forced personally unless Kathryn goes through a majority character change on that path as well. Since to me it just does not feel like it would be something she does and doesn't regret and to keep doing it without a character change. I can see her doing it a few times without needing to go through a character shift / change.
TonyMurray
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I think the main other thing for me will be any progression of this drugs storyline, as that's an easy road down an NTR path here (although it should still be optional to take that road).
blkcrow20
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Totally agree. I'm not a fan of the drugs storyline and hope, like you, if it leads to NTR, it's optional.
TonyMurray
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Yeah, I did mean that I thought the drugs thing might be the way that Kathryn gets into the NTR path, because I can't see another way that she would have a big enough (and quick enough) change in her character. But like you, I'm not a fan of the drugs storyline overall, it just seems a bit much. If it was a small-time thing, fine, but trying to take over the entire city with it, or whatever they said, that's a bit much for me. We're not playing a Batman game here.
Starting to sound alot like stopper one delay after another certainly not the way to attract new supporters, just sounds like dev is very disorganized to put various release times out and then not come through.
Dessolos
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You know I 100% forgot about the drug storyline. Which goes to show how it really isn't that great of an addition if it is what leads to NTR and a character change. I will say I kind of don't mind and almost do like it for NTS scenes. As I thought it's use for the photoshoot scene did make for a fun scene with how different and horny Kathryn was acting.
Only problem is the execution is poorly done with it. If it was optional , the player knows about the choice but maybe not the characters would of been better I think. Cause I do like the idea of Luke and Kathryn acting like they did temporary like that how they did in the photoshoot once in awhile but wouldn't want them to become druggies either and doing it on purpose.
So if the players were given the option for that choice or path I think would of been alot better and fun if you get to choose when and if they do it. Tho that could be me being a little biased too , as I did enjoy the way they were acting during the photoshoot alot just disliked the lack or choice or execution about the drugs during it. So in my mind if Bobby can create more scene likes that if the drugs were optional I would quite like the drug path I would think. Only the lack of it being optional that makes me dislike it.
TonyMurray
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I totally agree - it's something that doesn't work for me. You get a couple of hints - such as the offer of a bottle of water in the car ride that becomes obviously out of place once you know. So many games can do this sort of entry into swinging and/or early corruption without having to put it down to some sort of libido drug, so I just don't think it's necessary. The early scenes in the game feel a little sudden perhaps, but they are fine without having to say the couple weren't fully in control of the situation because of drugs (there was a line or two where I think it was Kathryn who said they've been a bit crazy since moving to the city and it seems like she's using the drugs as an excuse).
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I disagree. Since the netorare content, will be for the most part, exactly the same content as that on the netorase route, albeit with slightly different dialogue and outcomes, how can it not have an equal focus to the netorase route? If Luke cheats, then most of the content that currently has a netorase focus, will simply switch to a netorare focus.
And Kathryn will be thinking very differently, once she realises that Luke has been lying to her face and betraying her. He'll very rapidly stop being her loving boyfriend and become the cheating, hypocritical bastard she wants to get even with. Are you seriously telling me, you don't think she's going to feel very angry, hurt and betrayed, when she discovers what Luke has been up to, with several women (including her own mother), behind her back? At every point in this storyline, she has included Luke in every decision she's had to make. And when she realises he's unwilling to extend the same courtesy to her, it's going to change her opinion of him significantly, and cast major doubts over their relationship. So how will her acting differently be forced? If she stops trusting him, why would she carry on confiding in him?
Cheating Luke is playing a dangerous game, because he's set them on a path, where Kathryn is becoming more and more sexually confident and aware that an awful lot of guys out there, find her incredibly desirable. On a netorase route, that's not a problem, because Kathryn would never dream of betraying Luke, since she's madly in love with him. But if Luke does things that undermine that love, he is seriously playing with fire, because he's already turning his girlfriend into a nympho, who no longer needs him persuading her to be naughty.
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If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candy and nuts... you can't know how any of that will play out, it's all just theorycrafting.
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being angry and hurt and getting revenge for his cheating are 2 very different things. To me there is no way it can come across as nothing feeling very forced without her going through some kind of character shift. Once or twice I get it she is hurt and might not be thinking clearly and might cheat out of spite then will most likely regret it right after. But anymore than that I can't see it as not feeling forced unless she goes through some kind of major character change or is on those drugs all the time as I think it would out of character for her.
Now what you wrote would be a major character change for her and would make sense as long as the game shows that is how she is feeling.
As for your first point I mean just play the game it clearly is a NTS focused game right now , when I say it's clearly a NTS focused game im going off what is in the game currently. I don't see a point going off anything but what is in the current game right now as only Bobby knows if it will have a equal focus or not. But right now nothing tells me that will change when NTR does happen I mean yeah it can change but there is nothing that indicate that one way or another just yet. Especially because if I recall correctly we are about the 1/2 way point since I think there is 10 or 12 chapters planned. So until it happens and we see how frequent NTR happens I just can't say it will or won't have equal focus and will continue to say this is a NTS game first and foremost.
In the Overview, the Dev clearly states that if Luke cheats, their relationship will become a nightmare for him. The only thing that could mean, is netorase becoming netorare. If the game follows the current focus, then how could that end up nightmarish for Luke, where he can basically have his cake and eat it? At the moment, his cheating has no consequences, and the Dev has suggested repeatedly, that eventually it will. So Kathryn is either going to dump him, or she's going to cheat on him herself, to get even.
Sparta158
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I don't understand all the speculation and excitement. It's clearly going in the direction of NTR. We've known where it's going since the last episode. It's going to be a nightmare for Luke. Kathryn has already made up her mind.
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Kathryn being angry and hurt, is not a nightmarish consequence for Luke. The Dev has made it clear, on this very thread, when asked about this, that his cheating will eventually have dire consequences for him. And I can't think of any other scenario, where that would be the case.
As for Kathryn's character changing, well it already is. Everything they're doing, even on the purely netorase route, is changing her character profoundly. She's gradually being corrupted, and is becoming more extrovert and sexually confident. That IS a major character change, and once you start to do that, especially if you're eroding your inhibitions, it becomes increasingly easier, to rapidly change your perspective on other stuff, if you suddenly learn for instance that your 'loving' boyfriend, is a lot less loving and trustworthy than you believed him to be. So I don't think it requires the kind of changes you believe it does, because for a corrupted, uninhibited and far more confident Kathryn, it's no longer such a stretch for her, to suddenly decide she doesn't trust her boyfriend anymore, and from now on she's going to have fun, whether he agrees or not.
The game starts off with Kathryn pretty much doing all this stuff, because Luke persuades her to do it, because it's his fantasy to share his girlfriend with other men. But as it develops, more and more, it's Kathryn herself who wants to do it for her own reasons, which is pretty much her becoming a slut. The scenes from their past, show that in certain circumstances, Kathryn has a predisposition to behave in a slutty way. For the most part, it's a hidden part of her personality, something she's barely aware of, and ashamed that she succumbed to. But it's already there, waiting to be awakened by Luke's perverted desires. And once it's awakened, you can't put the genie back in the bottle. So I think if she cheats on him once, it will become a case of her wanting to carry on doing it for her own reasons, rather than just to get even with him. Like all nymphos, the sex becomes it's own reason.
Obviously, yes at the moment this is a netorase focussed game. I made that perfectly clear in my earlier post. Simply, because Kathryn is currently unaware what Luke is up to, on his cheating path. The Dev decided to start this game off following that route, because at the beginning of the game, both characters love and trust each other very much. And if nothing changes, then that's how you would expect them to continue, especially Kathryn, because she starts the game off as an incredibly trusting and loyal person. So for her to change from that perspective, it's going to take something major, like her boyfriend repeatedly lying to her, whilst hypocritically insisting that she tells him everything (which of course she does). Surely, when she finally discovers the truth, that Luke obviously thinks he doesn't need to be equally honest, she's going to get pretty upset and angry.
I wonder in that instance though, whether players will be given the option to choose for Kathryn, whether she does in fact cheat on Luke herself? Or perhaps, the player will decide whether Luke interferes and stops it from happening, or does nothing, or get's there too late to stop it, or find's out after the event? So far Luke has always managed to get there before something 'bad' happens, but once the netorare route starts, maybe he'll just be that little bit too late?
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