TonyMurray

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I don't know if in such a place and circumstances it could be called rape if a masturbator with an erect dick saw a naked girl with spread legs, who feels great there with her boyfriend, It's hard for me to imagine how the police would take such a report seriously
I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, but you're absolutely wrong. Rape by deception is a genuine thing. If she allows him to fuck her because she thought it was her boyfriend doing it, there would definitely be a case there.

A good example in US law from a quick search:

In 2008, it was reported that a Massachusetts woman unknowingly had sex with her boyfriend's brother in the dark basement that she was sleeping in. He could not be prosecuted because Massachusetts law requires that rape include the use of force. Massachusetts State House Representative Peter Koutoujian crafted rape-by-fraud legislation in response.
So she thought she was having sex with her boyfriend, but it was actually his brother, deceiving her in the dark, leading to rape by deception/fraud.
 

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I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, but you're absolutely wrong. Rape by deception is a genuine thing. If she allows him to fuck her because she thought it was her boyfriend doing it, there would definitely be a case there.

A good example in US law from a quick search:



So she thought she was having sex with her boyfriend, but it was actually his brother, deceiving her in the dark, leading to rape by deception/fraud.
the basement is not a gloryhole where you know what you're going for, and her guy wasn't rooting for his brother like Luke was for the masturbator, but that's a slightly different situation, why do legal analysis of events in a porn game at all
 
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I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, but you're absolutely wrong. Rape by deception is a genuine thing. If she allows him to fuck her because she thought it was her boyfriend doing it, there would definitely be a case there.

A good example in US law from a quick search:



So she thought she was having sex with her boyfriend, but it was actually his brother, deceiving her in the dark, leading to rape by deception/fraud.
And it's ridiculous that they had to call it something other than just plain old rape. Because that's what the brother in that case did to her. She believed that he was her husband so allowed it and maybe even enjoyed it, but that still doesn't mean it isn't rape. It should be in the intention and action of the brother, not her actions. He was in the wrong not her.
 
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And it's ridiculous that they had to call it something other than just plain old rape. Because that's what the brother in that case did to her. She believed that he was her husband so allowed it and maybe even enjoyed it, but that still doesn't mean it isn't rape. It should be in the intention and action of the brother, not her actions. He was in the wrong not her.
unprovable and how did she know it was his brother when it was completely dark there,
maybe it was a neighbor :)
 

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I don't know if in such a place and circumstances it could be called rape if a masturbator with an erect dick saw a naked girl with spread legs, who feels great there with her boyfriend, It's hard for me to imagine how the police would take such a report seriously
the basement is not a gloryhole where you know what you're going for, and her guy wasn't rooting for his brother like Luke was for the masturbator, but that's a slightly different situation, why do legal analysis of events in a porn game at all
You're the one who brought up the legal implications with the police here not Tony. Putting your dick in someone who hasn't given you express consent is rape, end of story.
 

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unprovable and how did she know it was his brother when it was completely dark there,
maybe it was a neighbor :)
There was nothing in the case that points to the brother denying that it was him. The case states that because he didn't have to force her then technically there was no rape. So they had to make new legislation because of creeps like him.
 

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the basement is not a gloryhole where you know what you're going for, and her guy wasn't rooting for his brother like Luke was for the masturbator, but that's a slightly different situation, why do legal analysis of events in a porn game at all
You're the one who brought up the legal implications with the police here not Tony. Putting your dick in someone who hasn't given you express consent is rape, end of story.
Exactly as Justaphase says. In this specific example, they believed they were the only two down there, they were assured by Clem that no one else could be there. So they wanted a bit of fun, and it was specifically a Luke and Kathryn thing, he was the only one she was presenting herself for. Anyone else fucking her, even where she is and in the position she's put herself in, is raping her, because she's not consented to it. She may have consented to being fucked, but only by her partner, not by anyone else.
 
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Exactly as Justaphase says. In this specific example, they believed they were the only two down there, they were assured by Clem that no one else could be there. So they wanted a bit of fun, and it was specifically a Luke and Kathryn thing, he was the only one she was presenting herself for. Anyone else fucking her, even where she is and in the position she's put herself in, is raping her, because she's not consented to it. She may have consented to being fucked, but only by her partner, not by anyone else.
well then they could blame Clementine and not the guy who came there to jerk off
 

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Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, so there's no point in continuing this discussion. Ignored.
I was once at a nudist beach and some guy started having fun with his girlfriend, someone stood next to him and started masturbating, and this woman noticed, got embarrassed and asked the stranger, "What are you doing?" And the guy started laughing and said, "What are you doing?"
 

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I just watched a gloryhole scene and this older stranger barely got the tip of his cock inside her before he licked her pussy.

so I understand that licking is possible without consent, but inserting a dick is not :D
 

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it doesn't matter what they look like, it matters how they fuck and in this respect Luke is weaker
for me he is not very interesting, apart from the fact that he looks good
 
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Anything even vaguely taboo, is fair game for the powerful US religious groups currently trying to ban porn completely from the internet. Patreon like most other platforms that host porn producers, have no choice but to remove certain content, unless they want to lose access to the credit card companies, like Pornhub did. This is effectively being forced upon them, and is not necessarily representative of any wanted change to company policy.

This likely to be an ongoing process, and more restrictions to content will happen in the future.
As a U.S. citizen haven’t heard much about “powerful U.S. religious groups” trying to ban porn. I’m sure there are a few, but they get very little public attention. I have seen various women’s groups protest what they deem any form of abuse, sexual or otherwise. It’s all horseshit because it’s pixilated fantasy. Movies and shows are awash in violence. Last I heard heavy metal does not cause suicide. Certain sick people will live out their fantasies in real time, with or without any pixilated encouragement. Real is real and pixilation is fantasy. Go after purveyors of real stuff. More than enough of those bastards.
 
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Anything even vaguely taboo, is fair game for the powerful US religious groups currently trying to ban porn completely from the internet. Patreon like most other platforms that host porn producers, have no choice but to remove certain content, unless they want to lose access to the credit card companies, like Pornhub did. This is effectively being forced upon them, and is not necessarily representative of any wanted change to company policy.

This likely to be an ongoing process, and more restrictions to content will happen in the future.
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I don't know if in such a place and circumstances it could be called rape if a masturbator with an erect dick saw a naked girl with spread legs, who feels great there with her boyfriend, It's hard for me to imagine how the police would take such a report seriously
Exactly this. They're in a free use sex dungeon. If they're going to be sexual in a place like that, that's some measure of consent and realistically ( a term that should honestly be used very loosely in porn games ) any guy that fucked Kathryn while she's bent over a glory hole could say she gave consent just being there.

Also Clem is great, she's the perfect vessel for exploring Kathryn's slutty inner nature.

Why romance guys play NTR, NTS, corruption and female protag games is an absolute mystery to me. It's like they want to be emotionally cucked.

It's like me playing a management game, which causes me undo stress and then coming into the thread to critique and criticize it. I really hate management games, but nope I just avoid them all together or if the renders are good rip the CG, because I'm not a masochist.

Don't mind me while I stir the pot. :ROFLMAO:
 
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