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blkcrow20

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Oh Johnny! You must be in the first stage of grief, maybe you're still paying him money on patreon.

You think that a wife would still encourage her husband after she finds him making a sex game about teenage girls - When they have a similar age daughter? Are you verrückt!?
In his log he says he constantly showed his "wife" all the progress of Daz and everything else. He spent months doing Senior Year, which he glossed over for obvious reasons. So the dev and his wife share a love of under-age girls together and she supports his creativity in making it. That's the only way this story of his can be true lol.

All this says is that the dev almost certainly doesn't have a wife or daughter and uses this to come across as more sympathetic and trustworthy. Trying to act like a family man. I hope eventually you will open your eyes.
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Justaphase

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I support this developer on Patreon because I enjoyed the last update after downloading it here and would like to contribute to it's future. Simple as that, I don't need a long list of reasons or to feel like I'm best buddies with him.
I'm not sure why he would lie or feel the need to lie about his life in the anniversary post, but even if he did, why should I care? As long as he continues to develop the game, not to sound cold but really I don't care.
 

BigSexy57

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I say - am very impressed by this game. It's not ideal, but it is definitely better than many other games all together. My standing ovations to the author. I'd like to share my constructive feedback about what could be improved to make it even better:

1. The most close game which came on my mind to be quite similar to The East Block (TEB) - is Inside Jennifer season1 (IJ), an improved renpy remake of older poor game on rpgm engine (all the other games of that studio i have checked and strongly dislike them, they are good in renders and zero in character's personalities and boring as hell storytelling, except IJ, it's a damaged, unfinished, cutted as hell, buggy, but still almost a masterpiece, at some points.)
In short
- IJ's main advantage is quite good detailed and long lasting scenes of sex content itself, nice camerawork in most cases, not too perfect but quite enough natural movements of characters on rendered images or animated scenes, but IJ's main disadvantage is that it got a mess instead of storytelling and lot of cut out routes\scenes.
- TEB got it vice versa - a very good storytelling, much details of thoughts, feelings, frights, doubts, evident passions or secret desires of TEB's characters, they are showing to player deep enough and realistic personalities with natural behavior (taking in mind that they are fighting or falling with EP1 effect, you know). BUT! On the other side - let's say honestly - TEB got quite modest scenes detalisation, with poor number of renders (for example - i'd love to see more frames of currently made light gropping events, more surprised or catched with growing passion faces), low images' detalisation, not a good camerawork (like on event when she has to work as maniquen - camera angles are just bad, or it was shown from not enough points of view to enjoy visualy in a full way) and most painful - unnatural keyframe animation of characters' body parts movements during the sex events (the most bad example which comes 1st on a mind - is the movement of the girl riding a flasher on a streets, it looks like 2 frames of animations, just up and down, no hips working, no any of other body parts phisics. too low number of emotions showing on the characters faces, ect. Or 1st BJ to Nate - it was so mechanical, emotionless, i wish it could look better in images, because the event is hot itself)
- In conclusion - if to add at least not lower than IJ's scenes detalisation and in the same time to keep TEB's very impressive quality of storytelling - it will be a nuclear sexbomb! Mark my words.

2. I like the way of smooth going corruption in TEB. But sometimes it skips much of possible steps of corruption escalation, overjumping lots of missing events in the middle of light start and quite hardcore things right next after it. For example - it starts with sudden groping scenes, like with guy who gropped her just slightly on her jogging outdoors session, or guys who joined gropping her during a photosession with MC on the streets. Very light content, and it's ok for the begining. But then she goes fucking MC and stroking two cocks (with MC and flasher in the park) right away. The escalation of groping events is missing. Like after a light gropping there should next events with a medium gropping in other situations, then more and more harcdore gropping scenes with different other characters and decorations. Isn't it more logicaly natural? Because inserting more hardcore gropping events afther she was already sucking and fucking with strangers right after light gropping scenes - it do not fit to logic of her corruptioning progress.

3. There are dreams of characters in the game. It's ok to illustrate the desires and frights of characters' personalities even deeper, but since dreaming events are still eats the development time and requires rendering frames - am suggesting to make dreaming events less detailed, and by the powers which will be free because of that reduction - to invest more time and frames into detalisation of real happening events in the game with non-dreaming characters.

i'd say more - but it's a long message already. What da ya think of it, buddies?
 
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eijaxx

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There's some contradictory things about the underdog dev log story from Bobbyboy. Over a year ago he already released his first VN called Senior Year on patreon and other sites. Hes now calling it just a "test" game. It was about a high school girl and her friends becoming sluts. Patreon banned this because of the under-age style content.

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I know a dev who lied about being married and having kids to manipulate members into thinking hes writing from a realistic POV and also used this to blame update delays on family issues.
From the dev log statements.. I find it a little hard to believe that a wife would encourage a husband to spend all his time on a PC designing a lewd game. Let alone seeing his first effort being a VN about school girls, that barely look old enough to be teenagers having sex. When they supposedly have their own daughter also in school. Only to continue supporting the husband to keep going with the VN lol. Is he telling the truth? Ive seen manipulative tactics and lies from him lately, including the so called virus attached only to pirated leaks. After being a supporter of his before, sadly I dont see him as being honest these days.
There are more contradictions, but I don't want to disturb the followers, generating discussions that will lead nowhere.
In my opinion, the script is poor. It's a chain of events, without a real story, yet.
There will always be people who will pay for something like that.
 

Filipis

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There are more contradictions, but I don't want to disturb the followers, generating discussions that will lead nowhere.
In my opinion, the script is poor. It's a chain of events, without a real story, yet.
There will always be people who will pay for something like that.
I don't think I ever heard that term used to describe these "pointless" AVNs before, but now I can't help but vehemently agree.

Games like 'The East Block' are "chain of events" games that have no overarching story that drives the plot forward - instead, the characters themselves progress the story.

It's a good 'chain of events' game, to be sure, but that's all it is, in the end.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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I don't think I ever heard that term used to describe these "pointless" AVNs before, but now I can't help but vehemently agree.

Games like 'The East Block' are "chain of events" games that have no overarching story that drives the plot forward - instead, the characters themselves progress the story.

It's a good 'chain of events' game, to be sure, but that's all it is, in the end.
No overarching story? You been holdin down the ctrl key bub?

Clearly bossman and his overlord are trying to instill change in the city with their drug antics, as facilitated through clem's story and others.... though it's unclear right now how involved she is.

I mean yeah at times it's a little contrived and wandering, anfractuous. But you could do a lot worse in terms of overarching story; which similiar to my response to other guy above - makes me wonder the motivations for criticizing it in this way.
 

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yeah id say the last 3 or so updates the story started to pick up and get interesting , it's no award winning story or anything but as far as game with a focus on NTR / sharing are i'd say it's one of the better ones within the NTR / sharing genre. As to me it feels Bobby is actually trying to tell a story and not just make a porn game with Kat being shared , unlike some other NTR / sharing games.
 

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I don't think I ever heard that term used to describe these "pointless" AVNs before, but now I can't help but vehemently agree.

Games like 'The East Block' are "chain of events" games that have no overarching story that drives the plot forward - instead, the characters themselves progress the story.

It's a good 'chain of events' game, to be sure, but that's all it is, in the end.
It's almost as if it's a porn game. Hmmmm.
 

Chuckles9988

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It's almost as if it's a porn game. Hmmmm.
Yeah unless AAA studios get into making porn games I don't want to wait 1,2,3+ months for an update where 80% of it is intense(and likely poorly written) dialogue and story development.

I wish more NTR developers would do one-offs like "ntrgames" used to do. Following a short NTR story where it's all fresh is so much better than watching gangbang #5 with the same couple. Like in Shadows of Desire, The birthday get together with the photo shoot, truth or dare and where Cami sucks cock blindfolded was way hotter than watching her get fucked in front of a group of people after already having cheated numerous times. Just my opinion though.
 
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BigSexy57

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Following a short NTR story where it's all fresh
Hell no! Too much shorts in that age. Short vids, short stories, short texts, that's all because of short thoughts in short minds, and they want it to make shorter and shorter everything everywhere. In my opinion - that it is a bad thing, and vocabulary says that called "degradation". Am fine that you come here not to learn about anything or graduate a porn university (but i bet you would, if it was only existing) - but at least why the hell you demand to cut out the main thing which make porn games to be better at something in comparison with many other forms of porn delivery: movies, comixxx, hentai, whatever else porny - already can give you what you want - the dumb flesh hitting flesh and nothing else matters. The main thing in porn games is interactive storytelling, and if it's well made it got chances to get a player's attention enough involved in making choices and enjoy or be surprised with the following consequences, following ways or corrupting characters little by little, enjoying their adventures and progress in lewding down their personalities. But i agree with you that about over 90% of gamedevs simply can't do that, with enough quality of images or with enough balanced aproach to storytelling... Anyway - shortering is not the way out, it's boring and pointless if it's about porngames, while every other genre of porn industry already can deliver you what you want - the shorties of whatever you want. Leave those who got not degraded imagination to feel joy from following the interactive storytelling in porn games. It have to be long enough for that, with fast comming updates, with lots of content in it. If it's well made ofc. This is the way.
 
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Dessolos

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Hell no! Too much shorts in that age. Short vids, short stories, short texts, that's all because of short thoughts in short minds, and they want it to make shorter and shorter everything everywhere. In my opinion - that it is a bad thing, and vocabulary says that called "degradation". Am fine that you come here not to learn about anything or graduate a porn university (but i bet you would, if it was only existing) - but at least why the hell you demand to cut out the main thing which make porn games to be better at something in comparison with many other forms of porn delivery: movies, comixxx, hentai, whatever else porny - already can give you what you want - the dumb flesh hitting flesh and nothing else matters. The main thing in porn games is interactive storytelling, and if it's well made it got chances to get a player's attention enough involved in making choices and enjoy or be surprised with the following consequences, following ways or corrupting characters little by little, enjoying their adventures and progress in lewding down their personalities. But i agree with you that about over 90% of gamedevs simply can't do that, with enough quality of images or with enough balanced aproach to storytelling... Anyway - shortering is not the way out, it's boring and pointless if it's about porngames, while every other genre of porn industry already can deliver you what you want - the shorties of whatever you want. Leave those who got not degraded imagination to feel joy from following the interactive storytelling in porn games. It have to be long enough for that, with fast comming updates, with lots of content in it. If it's well made ofc. This is the way.
yeah out of all the NTR / sharing games ive played a few are completed and the one thing I do dislike about those is that they are short even if I liked them alot. As usually most of the game is spent to get to the point where the husband or wife are okay with sharing and it becomes a normal thing for them. ( which is how I like it I prefer slow burn sharing than fast burn) By time it gets good with the sharing aspect the game is over while yeah kind makes sense from the story point of view. Thing is it just ends once the sharing parts get really good and exciting for me haha and I wish those games had 1 more act / 3 or so chapters more before the end.

Tho I will say it looking like this game is doing it right it's starting to get exciting and good and there is lots of story left
 

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Yeah unless AAA studios get into making porn games I don't want to wait 1,2,3+ months for an update where 80% of it is intense(and likely poorly written) dialogue and story development.

I wish more NTR developers would do one-offs like "ntrgames" used to do. Following a short NTR story where it's all fresh is so much better than watching gangbang #5 with the same couple. Like in Shadows of Desire, The birthday get together with the photo shoot, truth or dare and where Cami sucks cock blindfolded was way hotter than watching her get fucked in front of a group of people after already having cheated numerous times. Just my opinion though.
The problem is exactly the opposite. For the most gripping NTR or cheating experience, a longer story is necessary. The plot (and with it, the NTR & cheating) ramps up slowly over the course of the game, and that's how you get that nice slow-burn sear for a well-done game. Short stories don't have the same impact because they rush the most alluring aspect of telling a betrayal story like that: the methodical corruption of the wife/gf, her slow surrender to her lust, and her embracing her desires towards another person.

The East Block has the right idea, but the execution has so far been... flawed. Luke's "goal" was to corrupt Katheryn into becoming more sexually open (in terms of sharing her with other men), and having her first time - after all this time & effort - be with a backstreet hobo was the wrong choice (especially since it was also public sex at that), from an immersion standpoint. Also, the best cheating stories have the wife cheat because she wants to (succumbs), not because it's retaliation for what the MC did - like the way The East Block is also most likely to go.
 

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The problem is exactly the opposite. For the most gripping NTR or cheating experience, a longer story is necessary. The plot (and with it, the NTR & cheating) ramps up slowly over the course of the game, and that's how you get that nice slow-burn sear for a well-done game. Short stories don't have the same impact because they rush the most alluring aspect of telling a betrayal story like that: the methodical corruption of the wife/gf, her slow surrender to her lust, and her embracing her desires towards another person.

The East Block has the right idea, but the execution has so far been... flawed. Luke's "goal" was to corrupt Katheryn into becoming more sexually open (in terms of sharing her with other men), and having her first time - after all this time & effort - be with a backstreet hobo was the wrong choice (especially since it was also public sex at that), from an immersion standpoint. Also, the best cheating stories have the wife cheat because she wants to (succumbs), not because it's retaliation for what the MC did - like the way The East Block is also most likely to go.
I actually think the game is very good and its your opinion that aspects of the game are wrong.
 
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I don't think I ever heard that term used to describe these "pointless" AVNs before, but now I can't help but vehemently agree.

Games like 'The East Block' are "chain of events" games that have no overarching story that drives the plot forward - instead, the characters themselves progress the story.

It's a good 'chain of events' game, to be sure, but that's all it is, in the end.
This VN started really well. Fantastic potential! The way the dev was making sexual scenes from normal everyday situations was great. It slowly started to go downhill with dev changing things on the fly, slowing down the progression, some lewd scenes making no sense, having the drugs why they are acting sexual. Kathryn being a whore in her early days. Looked like he didn't want to show sex scenes, so he did flashbacks and dreams constantly, very cliched. In the end Kathryns innocent act and personality makes no sense, as shes already been through everything before. The corruption isn't from Luke or the drugs. Shes just a reawakened slut. The story, if there really even was one, is completely lost and muddled. Like he had an idea but didnt know how to implement it. Hes added more new characters unnecessarily when there's only a few chapters left to sort out all of the fetishes promised with so many different men, characters story, side characters, and the eventual plot.

Luke and Kathryns relationship, the dialogue between them started fine then became ham fisted, where they just speak their feelings constantly. She cries every single update, so she looks more sympathetic. Luke always feels bad about making Kat do sexual things with other guys and his dialogue reflects this. But if you're choosing every lewd act for her, then as a player, most would feel the exact opposite! Everything is so forced. What started as the most fascinating thing in the VN (Luke and Kathryn) has turned into the least interesting thing to me.

This is not a game. It is a kinetic VN with the illusion of choice. You either say yes to lewd scenes or no. There is no extra scenes or difference with saying no. The only thing that changes is maybe a couple lines of dialogue in each update. The very thing that will make this a game, the dev is too lazy to do it. Can easily make a few renders of Luke and Kath having fun instead of her doing it with other guys, if you choose no, even have her saying how she might fantasize about it but too scared to do it. While I could care less about the faithful path, the dev should! Its the only thing that he has implemented in the VN to have a choice but even that is false and pointless. He has time to add these things - Especially that the updates are 3 months instead of 2 months to release now - taking longer each time but the actual playing time of each update is shorter! Which nobody seems to mention, feels like 1984 with the chocolate rations lol. Theres no extra scenes from choices, the variables are the same. So hes either struggling to come up with the new story or he's taking his time because he's comfortable with the subscriber count - maybe both. Subscribers are obviously growing month by month. I originally rated this 5 stars because of the brilliant start, now it would be a 3.
 

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I say - am very impressed by this game. It's not ideal, but it is definitely better than many other games all together. My standing ovations to the author. I'd like to share my constructive feedback about what could be improved to make it even better:

1. The most close game which came on my mind to be quite similar to The East Block (TEB) - is Inside Jennifer season1 (IJ), an improved renpy remake of older poor game on rpgm engine (all the other games of that studio i have checked and strongly dislike them, they are good in renders and zero in character's personalities and boring as hell storytelling, except IJ, it's a damaged, unfinished, cutted as hell, buggy, but still almost a masterpiece, at some points.)
In short
- IJ's main advantage is quite good detailed and long lasting scenes of sex content itself, nice camerawork in most cases, not too perfect but quite enough natural movements of characters on rendered images or animated scenes, but IJ's main disadvantage is that it got a mess instead of storytelling and lot of cut out routes\scenes.
- TEB got it vice versa - a very good storytelling, much details of thoughts, feelings, frights, doubts, evident passions or secret desires of TEB's characters, they are showing to player deep enough and realistic personalities with natural behavior (taking in mind that they are fighting or falling with EP1 effect, you know). BUT! On the other side - let's say honestly - TEB got quite modest scenes detalisation, with poor number of renders (for example - i'd love to see more frames of currently made light gropping events, more surprised or catched with growing passion faces), low images' detalisation, not a good camerawork (like on event when she has to work as maniquen - camera angles are just bad, or it was shown from not enough points of view to enjoy visualy in a full way) and most painful - unnatural keyframe animation of characters' body parts movements during the sex events (the most bad example which comes 1st on a mind - is the movement of the girl riding a flasher on a streets, it looks like 2 frames of animations, just up and down, no hips working, no any of other body parts phisics. too low number of emotions showing on the characters faces, ect. Or 1st BJ to Nate - it was so mechanical, emotionless, i wish it could look better in images, because the event is hot itself)
- In conclusion - if to add at least not lower than IJ's scenes detalisation and in the same time to keep TEB's very impressive quality of storytelling - it will be a nuclear sexbomb! Mark my words.

3. There are dreams of characters in the game. It's ok to illustrate the desires and frights of characters' personalities even deeper, but since dreaming events are still eats the development time and requires rendering frames - am suggesting to make dreaming events less detailed, and by the powers which will be free because of that reduction - to invest more time and frames into detalisation of real happening events in the game with non-dreaming characters.

i'd say more - but it's a long message already. What da ya think of it, buddies?
I'm of the similar opinion about animations. Flasher sex scene looks like insects intercourse, the fluid movement makes the character look even more artificial. It would do good with, pauses for a little change in pose. Maybe It would look a little more appealing from closer camera angles. A small action like a hand job looks okay. But to me those are animations made in Daz are nothing much.

I also find your idea with the dreams is worth exploring for.


The problem is exactly the opposite. For the most gripping NTR or cheating experience, a longer story is necessary. The plot (and with it, the NTR & cheating) ramps up slowly over the course of the game, and that's how you get that nice slow-burn sear for a well-done game. Short stories don't have the same impact because they rush the most alluring aspect of telling a betrayal story like that: the methodical corruption of the wife/gf, her slow surrender to her lust, and her embracing her desires towards another person.
I don't think you get the vibe of this story. Luke clearly is afraid of going on with his fantasy, because he cares about Kath. This story isn't some sadistic recipe for a betrayal. Luke wants to enjoy his fantasy and still keep his relationship with Kath, because if it breaks, he won't get any pleasure from sharing her. You can't share what you don't have anymore.

You seem to be selling only a single aspect of NTR that can appear in a straightforward corruption game? It isn't the main character's point of view. In NTR you play as the MC, and you try to get in his shoes and try to salvage the situation around. Otherwise, it would be a nonsense, because you could self-insert as a bull every time, and call it a wonderful Netori game. The immersion is important, so you can't break the third wall and play as an author to slowly corrupt everyone around.


The East Block has the right idea, but the execution has so far been... flawed. Luke's "goal" was to corrupt Katheryn into becoming more sexually open (in terms of sharing her with other men), and having her first time - after all this time & effort - be with a backstreet hobo was the wrong choice (especially since it was also public sex at that), from an immersion standpoint. Also, the best cheating stories have the wife cheat because she wants to (succumbs), not because it's retaliation for what the MC did - like the way The East Block is also most likely to go.
Luke isn't some daredevil who wants to corrupt Kath to cheat on him. He also has second thoughts about his motives, and want to specifically keep their relationship, or even make it grow stronger. He definitely doesn't want her to feel any deep emotional attachment to the dudes she plays with. The love is only reserved for Luke, so the unassuming hobo is a perfect choice for a starter.


Luke and Kathryns relationship, the dialogue between them started fine then became ham fisted, where they just speak their feelings constantly. She cries every single update, so she looks more sympathetic. Luke always feels bad about making Kat do sexual things with other guys and his dialogue reflects this. But if you're choosing every lewd act for her, then as a player, most would feel the exact opposite! Everything is so forced. What started as the most fascinating thing in the VN (Luke and Kathryn) has turned into the least interesting thing to me.
It's so silly to think that every guy who plays this game wants for his gf to fuck around. That you think otherwise is really immature, and show that Bobby is at least older and more experienced than you.
In this game, we can make bolder choices for the MC, but in reality we would have similar dilemmas as Luke.
 
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