VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.7.2] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[Elduriel]

clem is hot but annoying

she is not that hot, her face and her personality are both annoying to me.

 

[Joshy92]

Fuck Clem, she is literally trying to drive a wedge between Luke & Kathryn.

She is like all those 'best friends' who encourage the LI to cheat.

 

[TonyMurray]

it is rape because it is forced sex,it doesn t matter if she enjoy it or not.

I know, that's what I said.

 

[Eleanorduval]

Fuck Clem, she is literally trying to drive a wedge between Luke & Kathryn.

She is like all those 'best friends' who encourage the LI to cheat.

u need a bitch friend in every NTR games

 

[WeAreChecking]

Not only she's a fake friend, a shit stirrer, she's a drug dealer who also exploits drug addicts and probably drugging Kath and Luke too. All in all a horrible person.

 

[bandyta80]

Honestly im glad the scene in Clem's dungeon stopped when it did. I kind of hated that scene as to me it was about guys being creepy , yeah was hot cause it was Kathryn but beyond that I didn't enjoy it. Plus it was a NTS scene without Luke and Kathryn being in on it as a team just was a happy accident for Luke. It's not the kind of scene I think of when it comes to NTS really unless it was pre planned together as a couple. ( which it wasn't)

what dungeon scene? show some screenshot

 

[Dessolos]

what dungeon scene? show some screenshot

was like 2 updates ago , when they visit Clem's place of work. I don't feel like hunting down a screenshot.

 

[Elduriel]

what dungeon scene? show some screenshot

the freeuse thing with the gloryholes and whatnot

 

[bandyta80]

at the beginning of chapter 5, the gloryhole looked a lot dingy, like a barn with village latrines

 

[bandyta80]

I know, that's what I said.

Well if Luke had let that happen it would technically be rape as she thought it was him. So I'm not surprised that Bobby stopped it there, regardless of player choice. Everything that Kath does should be completely consensual.

I don't know if in such a place and circumstances it could be called rape if a masturbator with an erect dick saw a naked girl with spread legs, who feels great there with her boyfriend, It's hard for me to imagine how the police would take such a report seriously

 

[TonyMurray]

I don't know if in such a place and circumstances it could be called rape if a masturbator with an erect dick saw a naked girl with spread legs, who feels great there with her boyfriend, It's hard for me to imagine how the police would take such a report seriously

I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, but you're absolutely wrong. Rape by deception is a genuine thing. If she allows him to fuck her because she thought it was her boyfriend doing it, there would definitely be a case there.

A good example in US law from a quick search:

In 2008, it was reported that a Massachusetts woman unknowingly had sex with her boyfriend's brother in the dark basement that she was sleeping in. He could not be prosecuted because Massachusetts law requires that rape include the use of force. Massachusetts State House Representative Peter Koutoujian crafted rape-by-fraud legislation in response.

So she thought she was having sex with her boyfriend, but it was actually his brother, deceiving her in the dark, leading to rape by deception/fraud.

 

[bandyta80]

I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, but you're absolutely wrong. Rape by deception is a genuine thing. If she allows him to fuck her because she thought it was her boyfriend doing it, there would definitely be a case there.

A good example in US law from a quick search:



So she thought she was having sex with her boyfriend, but it was actually his brother, deceiving her in the dark, leading to rape by deception/fraud.

the basement is not a gloryhole where you know what you're going for, and her guy wasn't rooting for his brother like Luke was for the masturbator, but that's a slightly different situation, why do legal analysis of events in a porn game at all

 

[Justaphase]

I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, but you're absolutely wrong. Rape by deception is a genuine thing. If she allows him to fuck her because she thought it was her boyfriend doing it, there would definitely be a case there.

A good example in US law from a quick search:



So she thought she was having sex with her boyfriend, but it was actually his brother, deceiving her in the dark, leading to rape by deception/fraud.

And it's ridiculous that they had to call it something other than just plain old rape. Because that's what the brother in that case did to her. She believed that he was her husband so allowed it and maybe even enjoyed it, but that still doesn't mean it isn't rape. It should be in the intention and action of the brother, not her actions. He was in the wrong not her.

 

[bandyta80]

And it's ridiculous that they had to call it something other than just plain old rape. Because that's what the brother in that case did to her. She believed that he was her husband so allowed it and maybe even enjoyed it, but that still doesn't mean it isn't rape. It should be in the intention and action of the brother, not her actions. He was in the wrong not her.

unprovable and how did she know it was his brother when it was completely dark there,
maybe it was a neighbor

 

[Justaphase]

I don't know if in such a place and circumstances it could be called rape if a masturbator with an erect dick saw a naked girl with spread legs, who feels great there with her boyfriend, It's hard for me to imagine how the police would take such a report seriously

the basement is not a gloryhole where you know what you're going for, and her guy wasn't rooting for his brother like Luke was for the masturbator, but that's a slightly different situation, why do legal analysis of events in a porn game at all

You're the one who brought up the legal implications with the police here not Tony. Putting your dick in someone who hasn't given you express consent is rape, end of story.

 

[Justaphase]

unprovable and how did she know it was his brother when it was completely dark there,
maybe it was a neighbor

There was nothing in the case that points to the brother denying that it was him. The case states that because he didn't have to force her then technically there was no rape. So they had to make new legislation because of creeps like him.

 

[bandyta80]

You're the one who brought up the legal implications with the police here not Tony. Putting your dick in someone who hasn't given you express consent is rape, end of story.

but it's definitely not the same as rape with the use of force and beating, what she does with her boyfriend in the gloryhole is a provocation

 

[TonyMurray]

the basement is not a gloryhole where you know what you're going for, and her guy wasn't rooting for his brother like Luke was for the masturbator, but that's a slightly different situation, why do legal analysis of events in a porn game at all

You're the one who brought up the legal implications with the police here not Tony. Putting your dick in someone who hasn't given you express consent is rape, end of story.

Exactly as Justaphase says. In this specific example, they believed they were the only two down there, they were assured by Clem that no one else could be there. So they wanted a bit of fun, and it was specifically a Luke and Kathryn thing, he was the only one she was presenting herself for. Anyone else fucking her, even where she is and in the position she's put herself in, is raping her, because she's not consented to it. She may have consented to being fucked, but only by her partner, not by anyone else.

 

[bandyta80]

Exactly as Justaphase says. In this specific example, they believed they were the only two down there, they were assured by Clem that no one else could be there. So they wanted a bit of fun, and it was specifically a Luke and Kathryn thing, he was the only one she was presenting herself for. Anyone else fucking her, even where she is and in the position she's put herself in, is raping her, because she's not consented to it. She may have consented to being fucked, but only by her partner, not by anyone else.

well then they could blame Clementine and not the guy who came there to jerk off

 

[Justaphase]

well then they could blame Clementine and not the guy who came there to jerk off

Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, so there's no point in continuing this discussion. Ignored.