Dessolos

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Sorry man, it is clear you do not see the problem!
Kati blowing the beach happens due to choices made before and during it, so players liking pure romance, sharing/swinging or NTR can shape the event to their liking.
The Pat event instead is hardcoded. Kati stays with a man Luke despises no matter what choices you made before. See the difference? Only the NTR fans like this manure, it is completely impossible to decide that Kati leaves with Luke and kicks Pat into the curb where he belongs. Even if L/K have an exemplary relationship, she decides to stay with an obvious as... and cheat on Luke. Invalidating any choices done in 7-8 chapters before this event.
kind of why unless that path / scene gets changed I think my default choice even for a sharing save would be to have Luke not go with Kat and Path to the dance. At least that way it feels better and doesn't feel like Kat is out of character unless I pick the NTR option to sleep with Pat during the Motel :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

bulbor

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I had a couple of days to cool off and even though I'm still hurt, I love Bobby and trust him to deliver some hot sharing action. He is a really nice guy and he does care about all supporters I can tell.

I haven't been able to get much sleep and I feel constantly sick because of the update but that's on me. I hate myself sometimes.

Seeing people say mean things about him this past six months also upsets me because trust me Bobby is a great guy. I've talked to him a few times privately and I can tell he'd never string me or anyone else along intentionally. Yes these last couple of updates for me personally weren't the best especially this one but I'll still trust my friend.
You have a big heart, no doubt about that. Hopefully he will deliver that action.
 
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Joshy92

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Bro...I don't know what to say, but I think you might need to step away from this for more than a few days if it affects you this much. No judging, everyone is different and things affect us all differently. I think you have to realize that the dev is doing this as a job. His purpose is to make money from this.
Trust me friend I know. At one point I even wanted to hurt myself until I talked to my friends on here. But I had a private talk with Bobby and he was understanding and knows how much this update hurt me.

He assured me that we can salvage this. I will say I know he has supporters who give him more money and stuff but I don't think anyone is as emotionally invested in this avn as I am.

But thank you for not being mean to me because for the last six months every time I try to defend Bobby I have been told I'm his 'lover' or other nonsense. It's hard to stay away though because I'm a sub so when I see ntr fans belittling nts fans like me I feel even worse. I shouldn't have read those itch comments.
 

bulbor

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Bro...I don't know what to say, but I think you might need to step away from this for more than a few days if it affects you this much. No judging, everyone is different and things affect us all differently. I think you have to realize that the dev is doing this as a job. His purpose is to make money from this.
That's the problem, some devs create as a passion, something inside them that needs to come out. Others are just in it for the money. But how to tell the difference?
 

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Sorry man, it is clear you do not see the problem!
Kati blowing the beach happens due to choices made before and during it, so players liking pure romance, sharing/swinging or NTR can shape the event to their liking.
The Pat event instead is hardcoded. Kati stays with a man Luke despises no matter what choices you made before. See the difference? Only the NTR fans like this manure, it is completely impossible to decide that Kati leaves with Luke and kicks Pat into the curb where he belongs. Even if L/K have an exemplary relationship, she decides to stay with an obvious as... and cheat on Luke. Invalidating any choices done in 7-8 chapters before this event.
Yeah this is the main problem and for some reason so many can't get it through there thick skulls, like we are complaining just cause of NTR. I still hope someday Bobby will change this down the line, even near end of game and rework stuff, cause it just feels bad to me and invalidates prior scenes like her crying to me.

I am a bit more calm, but one thing I think SHOULD definitely happen is after making up, a really good sex scene(she mentions "giving us best sex ever"when she got home). Something that mixes roughness and love. Add some spanking in there, maybe some slight choking, but can also add some kisses and other stuff. I think adding a bit more rough stuff, could help show the hurt she caused him, while also making up and showing they are still together and in love.

So this could make up for and hope that line Bobbyboy48 inserted about giving us best sex ever wasn't a throw away, cause this could alleviate my concerns a bit, as long as he follows through.
He should also change some of those AI animations, specifically lingerie show and cam show, being the worst. Some are really good, but some are like really, really bad, so some sort of adjustment.

(Also I really hope the dev let's us have fun with Rebacca with Kathryn's permission. I want some sex with her, no cheating, please Bobby, this would also help me feel better.)
 
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Xill

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So I saw before that there was dialogue between Kat and Pat and her saying she might come back single from the vacation. This is after the dance right?

Well I didn't get that dialogue. Also Luke never went to the dance to begin with, and that's cause of a choice I made like a year ago or something.

Kat also didn't sit on Franklin's cock this update, or jerk of Albert. She also didn't masturbate at the hotel so nothing happened. Luke was worried, makes sense since the phones didn't have signal. But that can just be cleared up easily.

Not sure what's going on with the route where Luke goes to the dance though, sounds lame. Anyway I'm not getting any NTR vibes from my route.
 

Dessolos

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So I saw before that there was dialogue between Kat and Pat and her saying she might come back single from the vacation. This is after the dance right?

Well I didn't get that dialogue. Also Luke never went to the dance to begin with, and that's cause of a choice I made like a year ago or something.

Kat also didn't sit on Franklin's cock this update, or jerk of Albert. She also didn't masturbate at the hotel so nothing happened. Luke was worried, makes sense since the phones didn't have signal. But that can just be cleared up easily.

Not sure what's going on with the route where Luke goes to the dance though, sounds lame. Anyway I'm not getting any NTR vibes from my route.
Yeah Ironically the choice that many thought would lead to NTR ( Luke not going to the dance with Pat and Kat) feels the best imo. While id argue the motel scene still has a NTR feel to it even if you don't go with that choice. Just because it does feel kind of weird not to get separate rooms
 

Xill

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I believe Luke won't trust her. He will always suspect she did something, especially when she mentions they slept in the same motel room. The distrust will be intensified by the fact that Luke knows his father desires Kat.
But why can't that be a simple choice of "trust/believe her" and "don't trust/don't believe her" that you get to make as Luke? You got a choice before during the webcam stream to apologize or not. Seems like a good spot to make a choice like that.

Or maybe, and this is the darkest part, this is exactly what he wants: for their relationship to deteriorate more and more. With Kat thinking Luke betrayed her and Luke thinking she slept with his father, the relationship is likely to end, as she told Pat that she "might come back single from vacation." Why would he include that dialogue if he wasn't thinking of bringing their relationship to an end?
Does this only happen if Luke goes to the dance?

While id argue the motel scene still has a NTR feel to it even if you don't go with that choice. Just because it does feel kind of weird not to get separate rooms
This is a trope. I've seen it in other VN's where it's supposed to be about sharing. The updates end at that part too. The difference here is that there's a choice between actually going NTR or not.
 

Dessolos

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This is a trope. I've seen it in other VN's where it's supposed to be about sharing. The updates end at that part too. The difference here is that there's a choice between actually going NTR or not.
Yeah I should of said NTR setup cause one thing this game does right is give you a chance to say no to NTR
 

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Not sure what's going on with the route where Luke goes to the dance though, sounds lame. Anyway I'm not getting any NTR vibes from my route.
We weren't given the chance to tell Pat to piss off and leave the couple alone. That's my main issue with this whole thing. I DID NOT WANT TO SEE PAT EVER AGAIN after the last meeting, ffs.
 
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We weren't given the chance to tell Pat to piss off and leave the couple alone. That's my main issue with this whole thing. I DID NOT WANT TO SEE PAT EVER AGAIN after the last meeting, ffs.
Obviously he's meant to be a big part of the story now, so both routes, if you can call 'nothing happens' route a real route, WILL involve him.
 
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