The D0n

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Played both sides of this update. It was actually a decent update. While it wasn't bad like I thought going in, I still dislike Ghost trying to dictate the MC. At least with Emma, we know it's her power doing it and she's not actually controlling us. Ghost on the other hand keeps taking over us to do whatever he wants and I still don't like it. Especially when no one says anything about it and he just roams freely using our power like it's his own.

That last part leads me to Nyks. I already didn't like her for what she did in the early sections and now she's working with Ghost? She can fuck right off. You would think she could tell something was off about the MC but she goes along with it. Which also gave me the feeling she was always working with Ghost or that Ghost is actually from her faction. I don't exactly know which of the two it could be but I do know I dislike her even more now.

As for Azazel, I'm interested in seeing where that's about to go. As for her being the MC's mother, that's unlikely. Ghost's mother, maybe? The similarity is likely because her and MC are fallen angels. If anything, they're likely siblings. MC was called an archangel, likely created directly by God and Goddess(Emma) just like all of the other archangels. Then again, we don't know how the breeding works fully within the angels themselves. It could be possible that 2 Archangels can create another. That would make Emma his grandma though and Azrael and the others his aunts.

Anyway, I thought the update was okay. I'm looking forward to the next. I swear if Ghost does anything to Luna, I might just lose it. The sooner we can off him and the other asshat inside our head, the better. I know I said above that Ghost could be Azazel's child but it's possible he could also be the man that escaped the encounter with her prior. I don't know, we'll have to see. If it was up to me, I would steal God's or whoever's power that is needed, create a body for Luna and leave everybody else to solve their own problems.
That's some deep thought, the deepest i got was the fact the MC went through Puberty with his hands chained behind his back.... sounds like Hell.
 

MrBenny

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Hmm...I find some of the point based choices very odd. When Mc has a chance to look at Raphael or Arel in the shower, MC will get a devil point, but if he looks Raph's ass, it becomes a negative love interest point...but MC still get's an angel point, instead of devil. Odd.

Also, odd for me...how big Raphael's bottom half looks...it looks like she was given a milf's hips and ass, instead of having a younger looking one (her top half doesn't match her bottom half). But I find many of the woman seem to have been given huge asses, and tits in this story.

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HentaiKami

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Given that the MC apparently didn't have any powers before Ghost changed him, it might actually be his power in the first place.
Personally i don't see it as Ghost changing MC and giving him powers, i more of see it as MC finally giving up and that broke the subconscious restraint he had for actually using his powers.
 
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Eagle1900

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y en español?
Hi buddy
I can't answer you in Spanish
I'm Italian... search among the Spanish translators if they have this game, or if you can request it.
I'm sorry I can't please you, but it's not a language I know well enough to translate.
Have a good evening. ;)
 

-CookieMonster666-

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y en español?
Hi buddy
I can't answer you in Spanish
I'm Italian... search among the Spanish translators if they have this game, or if you can request it.
I'm sorry I can't please you, but it's not a language I know well enough to translate.
Have a good evening. ;)
There is now a Translation Forum where you can make requests as well as see what's been translated already.
 

slick97

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Hmm...I find some of the point based choices very odd. When Mc has a chance to look at Raphael or Arel in the shower, MC will get a devil point, but if he looks Raph's ass, it becomes a negative love interest point...but MC still get's an angel point, instead of devil. Odd.

Also, odd for me...how big Raphael's bottom half looks...it looks like she was given a milf's hips and ass, instead of having a younger looking one (her top half doesn't match her bottom half). But I find many of the woman seem to have been given huge asses, and tits in this story.

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I believe the intention is that MC having feelings towards the angels is seen as him finding his way back towards that alignment. On the contrary, devil point usually correlate to lack of interest in anything else other than revenge and destruction.

Raph is under that assumption that the MC isn't that messed up, and as such expects him to act a different way. What she doesn't realize is that his attraction towards her is probably one of the few things pulling him back towards the "angel" affinity.
 
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slick97

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It's a bit strange seeing disappointed centered around MC's character development, and I think there might be a disconnect between what's actually happening in the story and what players think should happen.

One of the primary themes of this story is the struggle between "devil" and "angel" as MC can fit into either role. The main mechanic is picking options that further align you to one affinity or the other, with both having increasingly different consequences for choosing them. The wildcard in all of this is how the MC's mind is so shattered that he can't differentiate visions from reality, which is explicitly stated in the recent update.

The devil affinity is generally geared towards a psychotic MC who doesn't care that his mind is shattered, and instead is fueled by pure rage. There is no desire to mentally heal from centuries of torture, especially considering Inessa - the one positive thing to happen to him since - was slaughtered. At this point, why should he care about anyone else if they're just going to die or hold him back?

As for the angel affinity, this seems to be geared towards an MC who understands how broken his mind is, but still clings on to some kind of hope that he will heal. Actually, this entire path is essentially the "healing" arc for the MC as Emma tries to fix all of the broken pieces. In my opinion, this is the better of the two arcs since it represents actual character development rather than a slaughter fest with an increasingly psycho MC.



As for Ghost, he's an enigma that doesn't exactly resemble the other two manifestations in MCs mind. What he could be is a manifestation of MCs true power. It's often brought up how the MC should've died during his time in Hell, but more importantly is that his survival was not pre-ordained meaning him existing breaks the flow of time (this was hinted at by Nyks' discussion with the oracle while in Hell).

Ghost is definitely a part of the MC, but his actual manifestation is a bit harder to understand if he is meant to represent the power MC actually has.
 
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michael1984

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I am glad we have a devil route

Caus like i said even tho we gotten a explantion i still dont give a fuck about any of the main Li

Besides inessa that got killed off

Also hopefully those demon girls in the college will become Li

Caus so far any other side character u forced to be on the angel path top get progress with them

And yeah not into the angel path at all

So hopefully some other li will get a devil path option

The update was more of the same as the previous onces at least we gotten a option to say nope to the therapist sessions

And ofcourse we getting pushed with over the top nudity to get us to make peace with the Main Li,S

But no amount of nudity so far is making me wanna get closer to any of the main Li

Also the whole Ghost taking control of the mc is a bit annoying

Hopefully we can shut that bs down asap as well

And hopefully we can lay a beatdown on Nyks asap as well that bitch took us from Inessa
 

leros147

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Hmm...I find some of the point based choices very odd. When Mc has a chance to look at Raphael or Arel in the shower, MC will get a devil point, but if he looks Raph's ass, it becomes a negative love interest point...but MC still get's an angel point, instead of devil. Odd.

Also, odd for me...how big Raphael's bottom half looks...it looks like she was given a milf's hips and ass, instead of having a younger looking one (her top half doesn't match her bottom half). But I find many of the woman seem to have been given huge asses, and tits in this story.

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Why do you think a young girl couldn't have a big ass? In fact, most MILFs looked just as hot when they were young.
 

MrBenny

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because he is in slim lolis...
no other reason apparently.
Your funny...Actually I'm not into children, or what ever name they give that type of content.

I'm just not a fan of huge out of proportion hips and asses on woman. Her hips, ass and legs didn't match the top portion of her body, as shown in the image. And the mom (MILF's) huge hips and narrow waist looks very odd, but the same was done with the young one as well...considering she is much younger than the mom (Goddess Queen). Looks odd.

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Jericho85

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Your funny...Actually I'm not into children, or what ever name they give that type of content.

I'm just not a fan of huge out of proportion hips and asses on woman. Her hips, ass and legs didn't match the top portion of her body, as shown in the image. And the mom (MILF's) huge hips and narrow waist looks very odd, but the same was done with the young one as well...considering she is much younger than the mom (Goddess Queen). Looks odd.

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The only problem I see in those pictures is the MC tucking a T-shirt without using a belt like a fucking dweeb. The girls are fucking hot. The shape of the girls is definitely not one of this VN's problems.
 

xXwankerXx

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I'm not into children, or what ever name they give that type of content.
, not children.:WeSmart:

Her hips, ass and legs didn't match the top portion of her body, as shown in the image. And the mom (MILF's) huge hips and narrow waist looks very odd, but the same was done with the young one as well
Looks odd
Guess you never checked some IG 'models' IGs, did you ?? Models like Natalina Marie, Savannah Santos, Mia Francis, Ayisha Diaz, Jailyne Ojeda and so on (there's a looot of them, I just named a few) or pornstars (you must know some of those lol) like Richelle Ryan and Violet Myers would disagree and even troll you for not liking curvy women.

It's ok if you don't like these types of proportions, man. Don't know why you wouldn't, but it's ok... don't call them odd, ridiculous or whatever tho, coz beauty's in the eye of the beholder, as you probably know, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with the women's bodies in this game. It's too bad their characters ain't at least as beautiful as their bodies are, that's my only complaint about the LIs.
 

EF.Sora

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Sigh... I'm out. I gave it a chance. been reading since first release. Played the update twice, My initial playthrough and going full bitchbaby mode (from the start), I don't like neither of them. I don't care about going full devil route because I don't want an evil MC, so I'm not bothering with that. Seems like there's no in-between and I was on the devil route for my initial playthrough anyway.

You people got what you wanted, a lewd/sex scene.
 

HentaiKami

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Guess you never checked some IG 'models' IGs, did you ?? Models like Natalina Marie, Savannah Santos, Mia Francis, Ayisha Diaz, Jailyne Ojeda and so on (there's a looot of them, I just named a few) or pornstars (you must know some of those lol) like Richelle Ryan and Violet Myers would disagree and even troll you for not liking curvy women.

It's ok if you don't like these types of proportions, man. Don't know why you wouldn't, but it's ok... don't call them odd, ridiculous or whatever tho, coz beauty's in the eye of the beholder, as you probably know, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with the women's bodies in this game. It's too bad their characters ain't at least as beautiful as their bodies are, that's my only complaint about the LIs.
While i do like curvy women, some of the models are ridiculous looking. Usually as a result of some cosmetic procedures, like adding some filling here and there, then training only specific muscles and such to emphasize it. I'd say the waist is slightly too thin for the character models used in this game, don't look completely natural.
 
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