I think the unlock for this particular scenario is currently bugged. Perhaps, you should skip it for now since it is just a very minor change to the ending.
HTML The Family's Curse [v0.15.1a] [onionlover]
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New patch is now public with the rest of the story of the Construction Worker.
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Enjoy and Onion's out!
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- Download the zip and extract to a folder (there will be a .html file and a media folder)
- Download JoiPlay from play store
- Entering the JoiPlay app
- Tap the "+" icon on the corner
- Game Name: Give any name (e.g: Familycurse)
- Executable File: Find the .html that you just extracted above in your phone
nackedsnake
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Wow, Just tried this after so many years, I'm really impressed how well put the Event Gallery and Quest Pointers are. It's actually quite rare that you can review every scenes - big or small.
Does that require some intrinsic knowledge of coding or framework? Cuz most games are quite lacking in this department.
Small suggestions: The grind is a bit too much - having to repeat the same scenes 10 times before the next stage is just bad design, and the annoyance is multiplied when you Need to maintain your daily needs.
A reasonable balance is the Construction worker's: 3X repeats each stage doesn't feel so bad.
A better one is the police route (I'd call it detective route tho): it's all about choices, no grind at all.
Does that require some intrinsic knowledge of coding or framework? Cuz most games are quite lacking in this department.
Small suggestions: The grind is a bit too much - having to repeat the same scenes 10 times before the next stage is just bad design, and the annoyance is multiplied when you Need to maintain your daily needs.
A reasonable balance is the Construction worker's: 3X repeats each stage doesn't feel so bad.
A better one is the police route (I'd call it detective route tho): it's all about choices, no grind at all.
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In the game, go to preferences. There's a toggle. It's auto disabled at start
Hello.
Nice second part for the construction worker storyline. I only got the lover ending and it was very cute. The friend one could be interesting but I'm not sure about the stranger one. And the hate one is on the list to try one day when I'm ready...
Thanks for including some foreplay, it's usually neglected (kissing and caressing
).
Good continuation.
Nice second part for the construction worker storyline. I only got the lover ending and it was very cute. The friend one could be interesting but I'm not sure about the stranger one. And the hate one is on the list to try one day when I'm ready...
Thanks for including some foreplay, it's usually neglected (kissing and caressing
).I think onionlover found the right balance for the grind. The incest storylines are more difficut (and they should be) because it's taboo so you have to insist more to get results and the throuple is already reduced since they are already in that kind of relationship.
Good continuation.
Believe it or not, I've never done any programming at all prior to this game (if you count very minor map making in Warcraft 3 as coding then I suppose some). Around 1/3 of the gallery unlocks are just grunt work and a pro could probably wiz up some better gallery system.
I think the grind is necessary evil because without it, the relationships would feel unrealistic due to how rushed it is. The detective campaign is fun but people do say it is way too fast when it comes to getting with the police character.
Also added point, the only path where you need to repeat like 10x time is the taboo route which I feel is justified since that type of relationship cannot be built overnight. Right now, I think I got the ratio down when it comes to character-centric route like the construction worker ones.
Still, glad you enjoyed my game very much!
Like Fenric said, you can toggle it in the preferences tab.
Thanks for the love again.Nice second part for the construction worker storyline. I only got the lover ending and it was very cute. The friend one could be interesting but I'm not sure about the stranger one. And the hate one is on the list to try one day when I'm ready...
Thanks for including some foreplay, it's usually neglected (kissing and caressing
You would never expect how hard it is to find good kissing, caressing porn footages...
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And yet you have a game that can compete with any of the existing HTML games, even straight ones. You say you're not a programmer but you pull 3 updates at the same time I barely do one
When you really look at it, my game is quite bareboned and completely stripped of any glitz and glamAnd yet you have a game that can compete with any of the existing HTML games, even straight ones. You say you're not a programmer but you pull 3 updates at the same time I barely do one
. I am completely clueless when it comes to UI, CSS and Java unlike you.Also, perfection cannot be rushed, so just take your time.
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That's not my point.
So you are saying You purposely Punish players by Forcing them to go through a longer boring Grind, because incest is taboo?
It's good if you want to make those routes lengthy / more "realistic". But doing that by having more Building ups, more Conflicts, more Climax (aka more scenes
)NOT by forcing players to Grind / Repeat the Same scene arbitrary times.
What you achieved is not only added downtime, but pull players out of the immersion, force them to remember it's just some game mechanics (and not a fun one at that).
What good about the detective campaign is the whole thing doesn't break the immersion / momentum. Even when it's kinda short.
"Realism" in games are to serve the purpose of "immersion", it should not become obstructs of entertainment - that's why we value "quality of life" features so high.
People play games for "Fun" and in this case, For "Porn", not to deal with "real life stuff" like buying condom, finding a date, finding a place, dealing with the aftermath, worry about diseases, etc.
I get it might due to scale limitation that you ain't able to fill in as much, but The whole mindset of "Necessarily Evil" with poor mechanics is not proper.
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Hello and sorry for barging in. The operative word in your assessment is "seem", I don't think he is truly aggressive. I believe it's a language barrier, english not being his first language (nor mine for that matter). Nakedsnake can correct me if I'm wrong. The truth is he's always open to discussions.
As for the grinding, I agree with you on principle. Although, I think it has been a learning curve for onionlover, his updates becoming better in that aspect, and personally I don't really mind it because the writing in the sex scenes you get in the end, makes up for it. I reckon he is experimenting with game mechanics and that's good. Haven't played the latest update though yet.That's not my point.
So you are saying You purposely Punish players by Forcing them to go through a longer boring Grind, because incest is taboo?
It's good if you want to make those routes lengthy / more "realistic". But doing that by having more Building ups, more Conflicts, more Climax (aka more scenes
NOT by forcing players to Grind / Repeat the Same scene arbitrary times.
What you achieved is not only added downtime, but pull players out of the immersion, force them to remember it's just some game mechanics (and not a fun one at that).
What good about the detective campaign is the whole thing doesn't break the immersion / momentum. Even when it's kinda short.
"Realism" in games are to serve the purpose of "immersion", it should not become obstructs of entertainment - that's why we value "quality of life" features so high.
People play games for "Fun" and in this case, For "Porn", not to deal with "real life stuff" like buying condom, finding a date, finding a place, dealing with the aftermath, worry about diseases, etc.
I get it might due to scale limitation that you ain't able to fill in as much, but The whole mindset of "Necessarily Evil" with poor mechanics is not proper.
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I know, hence the feedback. By no means That was a condemnation (it didn't even weight down my rating).
I agree with you the newer routes improved a lot. That's where it threw me off a bit when they said early routes are Grindy on purpose.
I care and like to discuss cuz I want to play better games.
Really appreciate the defence.
I normally don't even bother since it's off-topic:
Some random guy, who can't even form a legit argument, throws personal insults out of blue and thinks that can invalid my points / me as a person. I get that quite a lot as a man with strong opinions.
Sure my writing can use tons of refinement. But I just like to type out what's in my mind and straight to the point. (Not sure why you think english ain't my first language tho)
Why are you always so negative about your own work rafster? Just because you're slow doesn't mean you're doing a bad job. If I was able to do even a quarter (I would be happy with a tiny bit too) of what you're delivering, I wouldn't be that much pessimistic.And yet you have a game that can compete with any of the existing HTML games, even straight ones. You say you're not a programmer but you pull 3 updates at the same time I barely do one
Well, even if I usually disagree with what you say, at least I understand what you mean but now I'm lostThat's not my point.
So you are saying You purposely Punish players by Forcing them to go through a longer boring Grind, because incest is taboo?
It's good if you want to make those routes lengthy / more "realistic". But doing that by having more Building ups, more Conflicts, more Climax (aka more scenes
NOT by forcing players to Grind / Repeat the Same scene arbitrary times.
What you achieved is not only added downtime, but pull players out of the immersion, force them to remember it's just some game mechanics (and not a fun one at that).
What good about the detective campaign is the whole thing doesn't break the immersion / momentum. Even when it's kinda short.
"Realism" in games are to serve the purpose of "immersion", it should not become obstructs of entertainment - that's why we value "quality of life" features so high.
People play games for "Fun" and in this case, For "Porn", not to deal with "real life stuff" like buying condom, finding a date, finding a place, dealing with the aftermath, worry about diseases, etc.
I get it might due to scale limitation that you ain't able to fill in as much, but The whole mindset of "Necessarily Evil" with poor mechanics is not proper.
.Why are you talking about punishment? Even if it's tedious, it doesn't even come close to that. In Young Marcus, it takes 20 relationships (and corruption for family members). In Grizzly Grove, some stats are only increased on PC (and rare events).
I don't mind grinding because for me it's part of the game mecanics.
For the detective campain everybody seems to like, I didn't because it felt like it was another game inside the game (the content was good, not the process). So as you are saying, it broke immersion.
Well, your idea of fun is certainly different from mine. The list you're giving as no fun is exactly what I like and what makes them games. What you're describing is a vn (they are nice but they aren't games, just customizable stories).
In terms of mecanisms, I've seen worse so I don't understand why you complain that much (well, I'm quite open minded if I like what is done).
Sorry for the off topic but I wanted to reply and understand your train of thought better.
Good continuation.
Anyone know what I should do to max the throuple acceptance which action should I give and shouldn't give to the father and brother when affection and lust are max?
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Simple:Well, even if I usually disagree with what you say, at least I understand what you mean but now I'm lost
Why are you talking about punishment? Even if it's tedious, it doesn't even come close to that. In Young Marcus, it takes 20 relationships (and corruption for family members). In Grizzly Grove, some stats are only increased on PC (and rare events).
I don't mind grinding because for me it's part of the game mecanics.
For the detective campain everybody seems to like, I didn't because it felt like it was another game inside the game (the content was good, not the process). So as you are saying, it broke immersion.
Well, your idea of fun is certainly different from mine. The list you're giving as no fun is exactly what I like and what makes them games. What you're describing is a vn (they are nice but they aren't games, just customizable stories).
In terms of mecanisms, I've seen worse so I don't understand why you complain that much (well, I'm quite open minded if I like what is done).
Sorry for the off topic but I wanted to reply and understand your train of thought better.
Good continuation.
- "Others do worse" doesn't make bad become good - it's still bad.
- I like game that respects players' time.
"Grindy" as "Mechanics" is bad on principle:
Having to Repeat the same mindless action a huge amount of times, just for an arbitrary number increase?
It's just a "Time Wasting Mechanics" that achieve nothing else.
In fact, Many Games use "Grind" as a decoy to hide the fact they lack contents.
Again, "Grind" itself is not evil, well paced grinds, contents rich grinds are well used across the industry - which are both lacking here, and what I proposed in my previous comments.
Ask yourself, is what you want really "Grind", or you want the world to be "Responsive to your actions" / "Immersion"?
"Repeat mindless actions just for an arbitrary number increase" is definitely not a good solution for the latter.
If you played any decent game with good mechanics, you will understand better.
Also, I only discussed Cuz I assume the dev want to do better. Remember, I rated it 5 star.
If you are fully content with what you get, good for you.
Btw, Forcing someone to do something they don't want / enjoy, is a punishment.
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Hello.
Thanks for the precisions. Now, I understand your reasoning but I still can't agree with most of it.
2. It's something I don't understand. What is considered respecting players' time? In my opinion, no game do that because you have to try it many times to know how it works and, even doing so, each player has a different value of his time (for example, I like to start a complete new play every update, which is condered a waste of time by the majority).
Well, I may be in the minority because I play porn games to have fun, have a good time, appreciate the worldbuilding and characters. Porn is just a bonus, a reward for doing eveything right. If I wanted only that, movies and pictures that can be found everywhere on the net would be enough (and erotic stories would be useless).
Maybe you consider it "Time Wasting Mechanics" but reaching a milestone is what those stats are usually for. If you're more intelligent, fit, beautiful, well dressed, have more money (add what stat you want to continue), it's normal to have access to more content. Nobody is interested in a neglected MC that stays locked in his room and can't do nor afford anything. Also, doing the same thing with different outcomes (success/failure, different media, different way to gain a stat, alone or with someone else...) is the right way to do it.
I already said it in another thread but i would love a day in which a game will implement that if you wear his favorite colour, the character will be more open, if you have a tatoo with a flower, the gardener will be touched, if you have a baseball ball, bat and glove, the neighboor fan of that sport will come seeing you himself, and so on. Oops, I'm being carried away.
For me, NPC's reactions are as important as player's choice and it's never implemented (even more in a harem game in which the girls are just sex dolls).
Yeah, every dev is supposed to want to make his game better but just because you find it's better that way doesn't mean it's better in general.
Your last sentence is astonishing for me : it would mean that every game is a punishment since they all contain something annoying.
Again, thanks a lot. I know we view things differently but we can at least talk correctly (I wouldn't try to do the same in a harem/NTR discussion).
Good continuation.
Thanks for the precisions. Now, I understand your reasoning but I still can't agree with most of it.
1. Not necessarily : just because it isn't good, doesn't mean it's bad either. Also, it's subjective to what each individual consider good and bad.
2. It's something I don't understand. What is considered respecting players' time? In my opinion, no game do that because you have to try it many times to know how it works and, even doing so, each player has a different value of his time (for example, I like to start a complete new play every update, which is condered a waste of time by the majority).
Well, I may be in the minority because I play porn games to have fun, have a good time, appreciate the worldbuilding and characters. Porn is just a bonus, a reward for doing eveything right. If I wanted only that, movies and pictures that can be found everywhere on the net would be enough (and erotic stories would be useless).
Having one action only unlocking everything is also a bad mechanism. You can't expect a one in a lifetime action to bear fruit everytime, just like that.
Maybe you consider it "Time Wasting Mechanics" but reaching a milestone is what those stats are usually for. If you're more intelligent, fit, beautiful, well dressed, have more money (add what stat you want to continue), it's normal to have access to more content. Nobody is interested in a neglected MC that stays locked in his room and can't do nor afford anything. Also, doing the same thing with different outcomes (success/failure, different media, different way to gain a stat, alone or with someone else...) is the right way to do it.
I already said it in another thread but i would love a day in which a game will implement that if you wear his favorite colour, the character will be more open, if you have a tatoo with a flower, the gardener will be touched, if you have a baseball ball, bat and glove, the neighboor fan of that sport will come seeing you himself, and so on. Oops, I'm being carried away.
For me, NPC's reactions are as important as player's choice and it's never implemented (even more in a harem game in which the girls are just sex dolls).
No, I don't understand. I can play sandbox, VN, RPG on HTML, Ren'Py, RPGM and every game is so different from the others that I can't find what is decent.
Yeah, every dev is supposed to want to make his game better but just because you find it's better that way doesn't mean it's better in general.
Your last sentence is astonishing for me : it would mean that every game is a punishment since they all contain something annoying.
Again, thanks a lot. I know we view things differently but we can at least talk correctly (I wouldn't try to do the same in a harem/NTR discussion
).Good continuation.