VN Ren'Py The Fiery Scion [Update 19d] [Vander]

[Vanderer]

Will you create a Discord for this game?

I have a discord, but it is reserved to my patrons.

I'm not playing long but I really like what I've seen so far. MC looks better than I was expecting from the previews. The writing needs to be reviewed. Some lines feel very clunky, or badly phrased. Some words are missing, or present when they don't need to be.

Not really a fan of slavery, so depending on how it's handled I might have to start siding with the Orcs. Especially if they're fighting slavery

English is not my first language. I try to not make an engrish mess, but...I learned English by myself, without formal education in that language, so errors are to be expected. I do my best, and I am open to constructive criticism.

As for the slaves, some are treated badly, but not by the MC and his family. Also, the MC will never force himself on them.
It will be a plot point later, so I won't say more.

As for the orcs, their specie was corrupted by demons in an ill-thought deal and love nothing more than to pillage, kill, and burn. They do not take slaves, but they do take prisoners sometimes, that they torture and eat. So...yeah...they are not great allies.

 

[Vanderer]

How is she supposed to answer a question that was only in our mind? Obviously "(thinking)" was left in error, but it does make the reading less smooth

Thanks for the report, it will be corrected.

As for the "thinking", I copied that from Desert stalker because I like it, it will stay that way.

 

[S1nsational]

I have a discord, but it is reserved to my patrons.



English is not my first language. I try to not make an engrish mess, but...I learned English by myself, without formal education in that language, so errors are to be expected. I do my best, and I am open to constructive criticism.

As for the slaves, some are treated badly, but not by the MC and his family. Also, the MC will never force himself on them.
It will be a plot point later, so I won't say more.

As for the orcs, their specie was corrupted by demons in an ill-thought deal and love nothing more than to pillage, kill, and burn. They do not take slaves, but they do take prisoners sometimes, that they torture and eat. So...yeah...they are not great allies.

Glad to hear that about the slaves etc

Sorry if I was too harsh on your english. It's far better than I would be if I was writing in a language I didn't grow up using

 

[≋T≋h≋e≋H≋u≋n≋t≋e≋r≋]

Just wondering if you have thought of some sort of planned timetable in future just out of curiosity

 

[Vanderer]

Just wondering if you have thought of some sort of planned timetable in future just out of curiosity

Timetable?

If you mean updates, I intend to publish at least one a month, roughly 400-500 renders. I try to maintain an average of 20 renders a day minimum. Of course, it depends on what happens in my life. At the moment I have a lot of free time so the updates come a bit quicker, the next one should be out for my patrons next week.

If you mean in-game, several months at least. I have several points along the outline of the story where I can give a satisfactory ending depending on how it goes. We should see the first births if everything goes as planned. There will be some time-skip, during longer travel by ship for example.

 

[Vanderer]

Glad to hear that about the slaves etc

Sorry if I was too harsh on your english. It's far better than I would be if I was writing in a language I didn't grow up using

Hey, no problem, I take the fact that you did not see that I was not a native speaker immediately as a compliment.

 

[S1nsational]

Just finished all the current content, absolutely loved it. Starving for more.

 

[≋T≋h≋e≋H≋u≋n≋t≋e≋r≋]

Timetable?

If you mean updates, I intend to publish at least one a month, roughly 400-500 renders. I try to maintain an average of 20 renders a day minimum. Of course, it depends on what happens in my life. At the moment I have a lot of free time so the updates come a bit quicker, the next one should be out for my patrons next week.

If you mean in-game, several months at least. I have several points along the outline of the story where I can give a satisfactory ending depending on how it goes. We should see the first births if everything goes as planned. There will be some time-skip, during longer travel by ship for example.

I meant both and I got it answered Thx, why I wondered is because I have seen alot of dev that has this game development as side project to spend time and out of nowhere just disappear and abandoned the project because they didn't have the time or passion to keep going that why I asked about your timetable plan where for long term and how long between update it will be on short term so Thanks in advance and good luck.
This is the kind of game I like where there is a story and its medieval

 

[SASHAKAMEN]

any maledom?

 

[S1nsational]

I mentioned it in my review, but I'm going to ask here explicitly; will there be more player choice in the game going forward?
The time fight with the rapist, and whether or not to have quick sex were the only two time we got to decide anything, and they don't really change anything.

 

[mrttao]

The MC is an honorable man, and there are attractive women who are not meant to be LIs of the MC. This is a world where the fertility goddess is one of the most revered, so there will be other men who have their own harems of claimed women.

Part of this concern/complaint is probably the assumption of very limited cast. which is very much not the case in this game.
There are already way too many girls introduced and rendered, the vast majority of them are just unrelated NPCs instead of LIs.

MC is a real man, he is masculine, muscular, dominant, intelligent and powerful. He is a leader.
He builds a harem of women exclusive to himself. And he is proactive about breeding them.

Let me segue for a bit.
You know how multi level marketing is defined as "legally speaking, the courts ruled that this is technically not a pyramid scheme".
Yet everyone knows MLM is totally a pyramid scheme?
A lot of cuck-adjacent games are "legally speaking, the dictionary/mods ruled that this is technically not NTR".
But it sure feels like NTR to anyone playing. And the MC is clearly a pathetic beta cuck regardless of what the technicalities say.

Those are very real concerns for players because a lot of devs are dishonest and sneaky about their product. They view NTR as a "financially negative tag" but they really like it. so they try to sneak it past the radar on a technicality.
This game does not have any of that.
Anyone that is complaining right now is doing so based on hypotheticals raised in the thread and not the game itself.

This is not a cuck-adjacent game.
This MC is one of the most alpha chad MCs you will see in a game.
Trust me here, if you like harem and hate NTR, then just download and play the game.

 

[Darknesssilent]

Trust me here, if you like harem and hate NTR, then just download and play the game.

This game isn't a harem game its a poly relationship game as harem the mc is the only one the harem members focus on poly is where the harem members can have sex with each other and since t5he dev made a les coupe that falls into the poly relationship. devs need to understand the meaning between the 2 types.

 

[S1nsational]

This game isn't a harem game its a poly relationship game as harem the mc is the only one the harem members focus on poly is where the harem members can have sex with each other and since t5he dev made a les coupe that falls into the poly relationship. devs need to understand the meaning between the 2 types.

The vast majority of harem games have it such that there's bi girls in the harem that are interested in other girls in the harem. Most harems in most harem games are pretty much as you say, a massive poly relationship, only you're the only one who can introduce more girls and it's only ever other girls.

The thing is, rightly or wrongly, that's pretty much what's expected. Whatever the "real world" definitions of a harem are, this game is a harem game not only by this websites standards, but by most porn game standards as well.

 

[mrttao]

This game isn't a harem game its a poly relationship game as harem the mc is the only one the harem members focus on poly is where the harem members can have sex with each other and since t5he dev made a les coupe that falls into the poly relationship. devs need to understand the meaning between the 2 types.

You clearly did not play the game.

 

[S1nsational]

You clearly did not play the game.

I think they're refering to how our Harem Queen (Wife 1) is bisexual and hit on most of the other girls in the game. And the companion we're most likely to add to the harem next, is also most likely bi too, and was shown sexually with another woman,so the girls of the harem who are into girls will most likely be having sex together. In fact I'm pretty sure that's confirmed either in the thread or in the OP.

But yea, even the bisexual girls and wives focus mostly on MC, everything revolves around him/us.

 

[Vanderer]

I mentioned it in my review, but I'm going to ask here explicitly; will there be more player choice in the game going forward?
The time fight with the rapist, and whether or not to have quick sex were the only two time we got to decide anything, and they don't really change anything.

Yes. Most of them will be choices that influence the depth of the relationship. As for now, there is not a lot of them because their relation is new, but further down the line you will have the opportunity to show more amorous feelings, or not. It will influence mostly how they act in private. Typically, do you love each other, or it is more of a lust/duty/reproduction based couple? (depending on the woman). A good example is your future marriage with Avila. Will it become more of a love story or will it stay an arranged marriage? Mc will treat her with care either way,he's a good guy and treating people decently is his normal. But the feelings involved will change and rejecting a more intimate relationship will also change, and mostly skip, other scenes.

But this will never be a choice-heavy game, for two reasons.

I dislike choices that have no influence on the game. Fake choices. So the choices will be relatively few, but they will influence more than a couple of lines.

I want the story to progress at a decent pace, and with the time at my disposal, I cannot make a branching heavy game like..."Where The Heart Is" for example. (Not bashing on that game BTW, I love it!)

It's a, well,...choice that I took because I did not want to have a game that updates every 6 months with half an hour of content. I understand that it is not what some player wants, but that's what I can do reliably, at least for my first game. I want to keep the scope reasonable, and I want to be sure to be able to finish it without burning out, so I kept the workload light.

Sorry for the ramble, just woken up, but I hope it will shed light on what I intend to do with the VN.

 

[Tiur]

any maledom?

Not really, and not likely unless it's by a villain who the MC and his party then kill or otherwise defeat, rescuing the victim from that person. (removed the rest of this, as it's no longer accurate; also, leaving this answer present because it was true at the time)
(Edit 2) Some, but minor and fully consensual (at least one character likes to be tied up, so the MC does so for her).

This game isn't a harem game its a poly relationship game as harem the mc is the only one the harem members focus on poly is where the harem members can have sex with each other and since t5he dev made a les coupe that falls into the poly relationship. devs need to understand the meaning between the 2 types.

This is not accurate to the game as portrayed so far. Far too much attention has been placed in these comments on a few of the girls having some interest in other girls, and Vander's mention of a single pre-existing relationship that will continue once inside the harem.

I'll reiterate what mrttao said so accurately above:
* This is not a cuck-adjacent game.
* This MC is one of the most alpha chad MCs you will see in a game.
* Trust me here, if you like harem and hate NTR, then just download and play the game.

And to support mrttao's comment about the concerns being based on the assumption of a limited cast, I agree completely. People may be assuming we're looking at a "six or seven LI harem" type game, which we are not.

At present (U10b U19d), the game includes:

20 members of the harem who have already had sex with the MC:
* 4 wives: Karla, Avila, Arwen (elf princess), Ailah (Arwen's bonded servant)
* 1 special-case concubine (due to political issues with a marriage): Sarah (Princess)
* 3 free concubines (non-slave commoners who cannot marry the noble MC): Monica, Naesala, Lia (guard)
* 12 concubines (maids, servants, slaves, or household members of MC/Athagan or of Queen Sariel): Aoife (MC personal maid), Anne (maid in baths), Milla (other maid from baths, who was with Monica there), Martha (Athagan's personal maid), Latia (cook), Celeste (Karla's personal maid), Estrid (bratty/masochistic Northerner maid), Aline (red-haired maid), Deborah (Queen Sariel's intendant) Senna (Sariel household maid, part nymph), Samara (Sariel household maid and Miriella's half-sister), Faraah (Sariel household head maid and Senna's half-nymph mother)

1 member of the harem who has not yet had sex with the MC:
* 1 free concubine (see above for definition): Cinthia

32-36 additional prospective harem members of varying degrees of confidence:
* 1 prospective wife who has actively expressed interest: Helen (Ishtar priestess with fully-formed ward)
* 5 prospective concubines who have actively expressed interest: Miriella (Avila's friend with the abusive father), Suter (guard captain), Helissent (guard who speaks Elvish), Zarah (guard who saw the MC naked when patrolling the castle at night), Amelia (orphan who agreed to work for Karla to earn the right to be MC's woman)
* 1 prospective concubine who has been mentioned but not seen: Ellie (Roger and Sonya's daughter)
* 2 close allies who will almost definitely be joining the harem eventually: Kes, Erika
* 1 person who appears theoretically unlikely but we have assurances that there will be story reasons to change this: Liliana (Athagan's wife/Avila's mother)
* 1 person who is likely farther in the future: Sariel (the queen)
* 8 additional household maid who will almost definitely end up joining: Amel (the Southern Isles maid), Margaret (hairdresser maid), Rei (Sariel household maid with glasses the MC expressed interest in), 5 other unnamed maids in Queen Sariel's household
* 2 priestesses of Ishtar who have expressed interest Sirina (black ponytail priestess), and Joan (short black hair priestess), the latter two of whom expressed admiration for the MC during his ritual with Aoife. The availability of these two becomes somewhat complicated currently, for story reasons.
* Up to 7 elves potentially: Calarel (Arwen sister), Kethryllia (Arwen/Ailah aide/servant/wet nurse), Sitra (Helissent elf friend), at least four other unnamed elven villagers
* 8 people who as players we know will probably join despite not a lot of lead-up so far: Laura (Monica's mother), Linette (Miriella's slave), Adah (huntress from Glenval), Vivian (the big woodcutter lady met during the festival who expressed some interest; Vander wasn't sure she'd find an appreciative audience, but we all love her, heh), Jebelle (weaponsmith, Asambé's little sister), Dorcas and Ethel (half-elf merchant saved by the party and her mute lesbian lover), Biggs (skyship Caroline coxswain, expressed interest in MC)

(entries below are not included in the totals above)

* up to 17 other potential people but who haven't had any obvious signs of interest one way or the other but are likely just given the model styles, lack of jewelry, and story presence so far: Julia (the intendant), Nenha (the intendant's former assistant/now-slave), Alyah (the collared criminal woman who can't be transferred away from the MC), Dazmorah (Kes' dwarf friend), Selana (healer priestess of Marduk), Jess (the town cryer), Ness (Monica's friend, selling bread/cheese/wine at the festival), Lena (pretty white-haired fisticuffs contestant), Lisa (random patron of Monica's bar/masseuse), Gertrud (Sariel's bodyguard), Grizella (the Witch in Glenval), Thefana (worker at the orphanage), Linyeve (Marduk priestess with the long platinum braid), Eleanora (MC family friend currently living in Seldorm slums), Lea (Seldorm horsemistress, Naesala friend), Lisbeth (skyship Caroline captain), Lillion (Karla's magic mentor)

* up to 11 other named people who are less likely due to various factors: Solah (high priestess of Andolisa, runs the orphanage, is older), Ellen (woodcutter, strength contest contestant, is forgettable), Laudna (archery contestant, unpleasant personality/sore loser), Rosamund (woman who lost her daughter to the Wasting), Rakia (fisticuffs contestant, little development), Servila (fisticuffs contestant, little development), Serena (riding contestant for Swanford), Otaa (riding contestant for Honshu/the Emperor, tried to cheat to beat Naesala), Darwa (elf queen, Arwen/Calarel mother, antagonist), Galadrael (elf Council Elder, druid lady), Isault (bald high priestess of Ishtar in Lord Capon's village, which is a shame, she's hot despite being bald)

* at least 8 unnamed people who have unique models and show no sign of claiming, making them potentially able to be fleshed out and join later on, or who have other potential plot relevance: 3 of the 4 musicians at MC/Avila wedding, the Sailor and Lieutnant on the skyship Caroline who show up a few times during the trip, the two Sisters of Mayhem, the owner of the Seldorm stewhall with the great dress

* at least 10 mentioned but not shown people who might or might not be, depending entirely on how the story goes and what their existing status currently is, which we don't know yet: Mab (fae tracker who owes Athagan a favor, hunting Eloise), Aeris (the Bear of Seldorm , Cinthia's opponent), Selma (Seldorm blacksmith), Saida (a friend of Arwen's), Kantor's unnamed younger sister (who Simon/Eloise had forced to become engaged to Simon's cousin), and 2+ unnamed "sisters" of Karla (they were mentioned, but the number and their ages/marital statuses were not), 3+ unnamed daughters of Roger and his wives (not including Ellie shown above, or Celia, Beth, Ravna, or Clothilde mentioned below; Roger has at least 8 daughters)

* any number of people Vander will be adding in the future that we haven't met yet.

So. There are 21 confirmed harem members currently. Conservatively, there are at least 43 harem members if we only take the existing + definite future members. If we expand into the maybes, we're looking at anywhere from 57-103 harem members, and that's with absolutely zero other newly-added characters being members (which, from the evidence, is unlikely). The real number is likely going to be somewhere in the middle between those two extremes.
(Original: 19 existing+definite future, 35 with maybes)
(Edit 1: 31 existing+definite future, 48-60 with maybes)

As an FYI, named women introduced who are NOT going to be harem members:
* Anyone underage: Maria (MC/Karla daughter), Miyuki (orphan), Peregrine (orphan), Flavia (mentioned orphan), Solange (Lia daughter), possibly Kate (orphan)
* Asambé's wives: Adele, Darlene, Zibu
* Eloise: Sariel's disowned older daughter, who is a straight-up antagonist with too much blood on her hands
* Sabrina: riding contestant for Seldorm and the Queen, wearing jewelry
* Cecilia: Lord Capon's personal maid, elf, wearing jewelry so likely Lord Capon's woman
* Sonya: Roger's 1st wife (which is a little bit of a shame, she's awesome, but the reasons why are also acceptable, heh)
* Some of Roger's daughters: Celia is married, Beth didn't seem likely to Roger/Sonya, Ravna is pursuing a muscular paladin, Clothilde is too dominant for a man like MC

EDIT 1: edited much later to update to the current state as of U10b.
EDIT 2: edited even later than that to update to the current state as of U19d.

 

[michael1984]

So far a decent start

The story is decent and its a harem game so big plus for me

The females for the most part are nice to look at specially the sex scenes

Dont expect high quality stuff tho but for what it is its fairly decent

And i had fun with it so far

Will keep a eye on this and looking forward how it will go in the future releases

 

[Eunoian]

Not really, and not likely unless it's by a villain who the MC and his party then kill or otherwise defeat, rescuing the victim from that person. The closest thing so far is the MC and an ally of his using magic to bind a woman, then later to enslave her, but they're doing so as just punishment for a crime and not for any sexual interest or purpose.

There was also Erika in the baths alluding to being dominated/submissive to great strength. Which is no guarantee but makes me think some light maledom is a possibility in the distant future.

 

[Tiur]

There was also Erika in the baths alluding to being dominated/submissive to great strength. Which is no guarantee but makes me think some light maledom is a possibility in the distant future.

Possible, but that read to me more like because she is strong, she just didn't want to be with a man who wasn't stronger than her. Not that she's specifically submissive or wants to be dominated, just that she wants her partner to be strong.