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HiHaHo

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And this way of thinking is precisely why you're single. I don't say that to be mean. Being healthy and attractive are good characteristics to have for anybody, no matter their gender. By branding it as "girl stuff" you're not only reducing women to sexual objects, you're also making yourself unappealing.
And concerning the game: We look at porn to get off. And getting off is better with beautiful actors than ugly ones. Especially in a game about a breeding kink, you're inevitably gonna think about the children. And when you then look at the MC's face... lol.
well lets get a few things straight as you are greatly misunderstanding the point i was trying to make
for one i am not single been happy together for over 5 years ,6 in september (so well you might presume based on my statement that i am single i am not, "claiming not trying to be mean", such a blatant statement 99% off the time will be viewed as insult )
also never stated that being attractive as a male is a negative
it just less important to have then others when women choose a partner

women generally look for safety and security in her partner first then after other aspects
you can be a handsome dude but if you cannot provide food/shelter and/or safety from threat such as predators or criminals you are not a attractive partner to have for a female ( a broke wimp hiding behind his girlfriend when being robed will never be a good mating partner even if hes the best looking dude on the planet)

also i for one believe in more general gender roles for the men/women (Men being the protector/provider , Women being the caretaker/homemaker)
Men and women are not equal physically or mentally (men tend to be more rational acting on facts /women tend to be more emotional acting on feelings)
are there men that are good caretakers and/or home makers Yes
are there women who are good providers/protectors Yes
but these are the exceptions not the rule
 

John1990032

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Perfect, thank you, that help a lot.

I have to ask: did you use another version, like the compressed one, or the the update Only?

I have another player with the same problem and I can't find what's the problem is...yet. But I am looking into it.
Nope downloaded the normal one you provided
 
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Vanderer

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Nope downloaded the normal one you provided
Thanks for answering, I appreciate it.

I looked into it, but even after loading the save you provided in the previous version, it doesn't load, which is weird.

I asked for help, but the other people didn't have an idea too. It's perhaps due to the fact that I added some music that messed up with the script, but I am not sure.

I did change the way I end my updates, which will theoretically reduce the chance of something like that happening.

I sadly cannot help you, sorry about that, but have you tried to load one of the autosaves? Perhaps they would work.
 

Vanderer

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I guess this game won't be finished soon which is good. I wonder how will finish tho? Tragic ending or good ending? Will mc becomes the king or something? I like this kind of magic fantasy games. Too bad i don't have enough money to support. Still i'll follow the story.
Nope, not finished soon at all. At least...oh, two years? We are not even at the middle point of the story. Counting 12 updates a year, yeah...at least two years, perhaps three. At least four other countries to visit...fuck, three years perhaps wouldn't even do it.

Perhaps less, if my Patreon continues to progress as well as it does now and I can reduce my hours in my primary job.

Lot of work in front of me. Lots of fun doing it too.


I won't tell the ending, obviously. :) But the ending I have planned should be epic in scale.


As for not being able to subscribe, do not feel bad, it is a free VN after all, and money is tight for a lot of people with the bloody inflation. If you really want to support the VN, getting the word out and recommending it to other players always help.

But no pressure, like I said it's a free VN, and knowing that people enjoy my work is already a great motivation.
 

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well lets get a few things straight as you are greatly misunderstanding the point i was trying to make
for one i am not single been happy together for over 5 years ,6 in september (so well you might presume based on my statement that i am single i am not, "claiming not trying to be mean", such a blatant statement 99% off the time will be viewed as insult )
also never stated that being attractive as a male is a negative
it just less important to have then others when women choose a partner

women generally look for safety and security in her partner first then after other aspects
you can be a handsome dude but if you cannot provide food/shelter and/or safety from threat such as predators or criminals you are not a attractive partner to have for a female ( a broke wimp hiding behind his girlfriend when being robed will never be a good mating partner even if hes the best looking dude on the planet)

also i for one believe in more general gender roles for the men/women (Men being the protector/provider , Women being the caretaker/homemaker)
Men and women are not equal physically or mentally (men tend to be more rational acting on facts /women tend to be more emotional acting on feelings)
are there men that are good caretakers and/or home makers Yes
are there women who are good providers/protectors Yes
but these are the exceptions not the rule
If you are in a relationship, that's good, but it's likely with a woman who subconsciously doesn't respect herself since she's with a guy whose views devalue her "nature". None of what you said is true, hence why most people with views like yours stay single - it's just toxic nonsense unconducive to leading a healthy, respectful relationship. Men are here to provide food, shelter and protection from predators?? We don't live in barbarism anymore, my dude. Women can create and buy these things just like any other man. In fact, it is precisely because these so called "manly" qualities have long not been so important anymore that people like you claim we live in "corrupted or unnatural" times and want to go back. The modern age gave us the freedom to break out of social confinements and be who we really want to be. Not as exceptions to some naturalistic rule, because there are no strong rules in nature. Human nature changes with the times to adapt to whatever the environment is. And since village raids and high child mortality are no longer just tuesday, women no longer need to be mainly pregnant caretakers and men no longer need to be mainly family guarding hunters.

And you didn't address the problem with this game: Porn games are here for getting off and that is almost always better with beautiful actors than with ugly ones. You can write a porn story with deliberately ugly characters, if it's somehow important to the story or kink, but here all the others seem to think that MC is above averagely handsome, which is extremely funny when you look at his face.
 

Playertheguy

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I just found this game and i am enjoying it a lot.
Is there a schedule for how long each update takes? I have no clue about how much we need to wait for updates.
 
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SlapE

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If you are in a relationship, that's good, but it's likely with a woman who subconsciously doesn't respect herself since she's with a guy whose views devalue her "nature". None of what you said is true, hence why most people with views like yours stay single - it's just toxic nonsense unconducive to leading a healthy, respectful relationship. Men are here to provide food, shelter and protection from predators?? We don't live in barbarism anymore, my dude. Women can create and buy these things just like any other man. In fact, it is precisely because these so called "manly" qualities have long not been so important anymore that people like you claim we live in "corrupted or unnatural" times and want to go back. The modern age gave us the freedom to break out of social confinements and be who we really want to be. Not as exceptions to some naturalistic rule, because there are no strong rules in nature. Human nature changes with the times to adapt to whatever the environment is. And since village raids and high child mortality are no longer just tuesday, women no longer need to be mainly pregnant caretakers and men no longer need to be mainly family guarding hunters.

And you didn't address the problem with this game: Porn games are here for getting off and that is almost always better with beautiful actors than with ugly ones. You can write a porn story with deliberately ugly characters, if it's somehow important to the story or kink, but here all the others seem to think that MC is above averagely handsome, which is extremely funny when you look at his face.
I agree with much of what you said, however this game takes place in the olden days, when often the ugly and/or fat men who had wealth/power were usually the ones with beautiful women, of course not all wealthy/powerful men were fat or ugly, but a lot of them were back in the day. I personally don't give a damn about the MC's looks all that much as long as they don't look super feminine and aren't fat. (Just not my cup of tea)

I'm not saying your opinion is a bad one to have, I'm simply just saying that in terms of realism it's not far fetched, and to me is pretty immersive. I would say he's below average in looks, but honestly not even that ugly, at least he's jacked and not fat though. :ROFLMAO:

Human nature changes with the times to adapt to whatever the environment is.
This is definitely not true, human nature doesn't change, society and morals do, which in turn changes the way we behave as people. If society itself didn't adapt, nothing would ever change, and we would still have the same shit happening today as we did back then, just with a more advanced civilization.
 

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And you didn't address the problem with this game: Porn games are here for getting off and that is almost always better with beautiful actors than with ugly ones. You can write a porn story with deliberately ugly characters, if it's somehow important to the story or kink, but here all the others seem to think that MC is above averagely handsome, which is extremely funny when you look at his face.
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last but not least the "problem" has been already addressed by other users
this avn has been made in a program which does not have a lot assets off "handsome" men
as for the chosen asset for the MC i consider it to be decent
the dude is ripped has no features that are repulsive or hideous the only thing that i might chance to make it more"handsome"would be the hair style which i not even sure the program allows ( and actually fits well in the world that is being portrait in this avn)

Vanderer is doing good work whit tools he has in my opinion

the being "turned off" by a render of the mc during a climax moment is something i understand and agree whit
but i do not think "this is a turn off because he is not handsome enough"
if you are looking renders off handsome men climaxing i believe you to be looking in the wrong genre

also actually fapping to avn (at least most off them) is something i don't do
as i see avn's as a story whit porn elements and play these avn's as such "story whit adult content"
if i ever wanted to masturbate, avn's would not do the trick for me because most off the sex scence are short and tend to only really stimulate visually)
 
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last but not least the "problem" has been already addressed by other users
this avn has been made in a program which does not have a lot assets off "handsome" men
as for the chosen asset for the MC i consider it to be decent
the dude is ripped has no features that are repulsive or hideous the only thing that i might chance to make it more"handsome"would be the hair style which i not even sure the program allows ( and actually fits well in the world that is being portrait in this avn)

Vanderer is doing good work whit tools he has in my opinion

the being "turned off" by a render of the mc during a climax moment is something i understand and agree whit
but i do not think "this is a turn off because he is not handsome enough"
if you are looking renders off handsome men climaxing i believe you to be looking in the wrong genre

also actually fapping to avn (at least most off them) is something i don't do
as i see avn's as a story whit porn elements and play these avn's as such "story whit adult content"
if i ever wanted to masturbate, avn's would not do the trick for me because most off the sex scence are short and tend to only really stimulate visually)
Don't get so offended. You mistake honesty for insults.

You basically said that porn games are not for fapping and that you're so scared of being called gay that you won't even look at male characters during sex scenes so you don't care if they look like orcs. Basically. However, most people play these games to get off and most people aren't as scared as you. So for most players it's probably a bad choice to give the MC - the character you're supposed to identify with the most - a pig-like face and then have everyone act as if they're good looking. I don't think it's just the types of assets either, because there are normal looking dudes in this game too. Just a really weird choice is all that I was saying.

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John1990032

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Thanks for answering, I appreciate it.

I looked into it, but even after loading the save you provided in the previous version, it doesn't load, which is weird.

I asked for help, but the other people didn't have an idea too. It's perhaps due to the fact that I added some music that messed up with the script, but I am not sure.

I did change the way I end my updates, which will theoretically reduce the chance of something like that happening.

I sadly cannot help you, sorry about that, but have you tried to load one of the autosaves? Perhaps they would work.
I didn't. I restarted the game from beginning but thank you for having a look.

Waiting for next update now ;)
 
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The Fiery Scion [Update 8b] [Vander]



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It won't install for some reason
 

Bradd D

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Is there an android port that does?
I found one on apkmagic for version 9a that works.

There's also JoiPlay which is likely where game is headed anyway as far as being able to play on Android since it's already at 2GB in size which is the max file size Android allows.
 
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BadToBone

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I found one on apkmagic for version 9a that works.

There's also JoiPlay which is likely where game is headed anyway as far as being able to play on Android since it's already at 2GB in size which is the max file size Android allows.
You're gonna have to replay the whole game to get to the update tho.
 

Bradd D

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You're gonna have to replay the whole game to get to the update tho.
Not really. I always just start from the beginning anyway, hold skip and fast forward to the next choice until I get to a scene I haven't seen, then rollback and go from there. Only takes a couple of minutes to get to the latest content.
 
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