VN Ren'Py The Fiery Scion [Update 28a] [Vander]

[Elhemeer]

In a few decades, it will be very difficult for people born in Wildale to not be dating their cousins.

Lets say there are 30 women in the harem, (I think if you add the queens women it is more but they are probably raising their kids in the capital) the majority of the harem want between 3-5 kids (based on my shitty recollection of how all those convos went) and that seems like a cultural thing, so that is 120ish kids (assuming he doesn't add more women to the harem).

in 20ish years those kids will have grown up and start making families of their own. we don't know what % of kids will be men due to the curse but 1/20 seems about right. I don't think Vanderer is into half sibling incest, as it probably would have come up by now, so they are all going to have to find people of age that are unrelated to them (probably via the school that is being set up for a lot of them). some of the daughters are going to marry the same guy and any sons that come from the MC are going to have multiple wives probably; so that comes out to 6 sons with 3 wives having a minimum of 3 kids for 54 kids from the sons, and 114 daughters having 3 kids means 342 from the daughters. meaning 400ish cousins in Wildale at a minimum.

Almost all of these kids are noble, they will live longer and have way more fertile years than regular humans, and they will all have a proficiency with fire magic. may god have mercy on the dating pool of Wildale in 50 years, especially because the MC will STILL BE AROUND AND LOOKING YOUNG.

While your hypothesis has merit, I don't think it's as expansive as it could be.

The hints are there that eventually the Queen is going to take advantage of his virility, and there's been no indication she's not capable of having more children ... so between her and Sarah his seed is going to start spreading through the capital as well.

Also, his half-elven children could spread into their country, and his travels will probably bring some concubines into the fold that don't want to move to Wildale and bring his children to other towns that he has to occasionally visit on his adventuring travels, bringing opportunities to continue to expand his "satellite harems" throughout the kingdom.

So yea ... hopefully his djinn genetics will keep his (and neighboring) Kingdom's gene pool from degrading before the curse is broken ...

 

[joolfoold]

I think there haven't been too many pregnancy announcements, maybe lots of them will have to be grouped to avoid having animate all those scenes.

 

[Vanderer]

I think there haven't been too many pregnancy announcements, maybe lots of them will have to be grouped to avoid having animate all those scenes.

That's not the reason, after all it's not only a type of scene that is easy to pose, but also a good ocasion to have a cute moment between the MC and his women.

No, it's just that there is only 26 days that passed between the start of the VN and the current update. That's not a lot of time to discover that you are pregnant, and for most of the women the MC has been with it's have been even less.

In a few decades, it will be very difficult for people born in Wildale to not be dating their cousins.

Lets say there are 30 women in the harem, (I think if you add the queens women it is more but they are probably raising their kids in the capital) the majority of the harem want between 3-5 kids (based on my shitty recollection of how all those convos went) and that seems like a cultural thing, so that is 120ish kids (assuming he doesn't add more women to the harem).

in 20ish years those kids will have grown up and start making families of their own. we don't know what % of kids will be men due to the curse but 1/20 seems about right. I don't think Vanderer is into half sibling incest, as it probably would have come up by now, so they are all going to have to find people of age that are unrelated to them (probably via the school that is being set up for a lot of them). some of the daughters are going to marry the same guy and any sons that come from the MC are going to have multiple wives probably; so that comes out to 6 sons with 3 wives having a minimum of 3 kids for 54 kids from the sons, and 114 daughters having 3 kids means 342 from the daughters. meaning 400ish cousins in Wildale at a minimum.

Almost all of these kids are noble, they will live longer and have way more fertile years than regular humans, and they will all have a proficiency with fire magic. may god have mercy on the dating pool of Wildale in 50 years, especially because the MC will STILL BE AROUND AND LOOKING YOUNG.

First, good post! But yeah, the MC is going to leave his mark on Wildale population.

A few points, though: first, we don't know yet how the MC's powers are going to tranfer to his kids. Maria has a Flame, but will all his children do?

Second, lots of them will be bastards. The MC will certainly make his future heir a noble if he/she was a lowborn, but the others? Probably not. That would cause many problem, and Sariel need to approve it. And having a dozen more nobles, all in the same place, is not something that she will allow. Again, too many problems. Of course, all the mages will be nobles, but by the law a mage is defined by arcane-based magic, not elemental. Because elemental magic is very, very rare in humans it was never really taken into acount.

 

[Damn1t]

For a game based on the lack of male births, it has it's fair share of "decent" men with their own women, even in the MC's sphere of influence. I don't think Vanderer is going to worry too much about things like this: either we'll get her or someone else will eventually.

It's not really safe to assume that every woman we meet in this game is a potential LI ... way to easy to be prematurely disappointed ...

Aoife did say before that all good women should belong to her master haha

 

[joolfoold]

That's not the reason, after all it's not only a type of scene that is easy to pose, but also a good ocasion to have a cute moment between the MC and his women.

No, it's just that there is only 26 days that passed between the start of the VN and the current update. That's not a lot of time to discover that you are pregnant, and for most of the women the MC has been with it's have been even less.



First, good post! But yeah, the MC is going to leave his mark on Wildale population.

A few points, though: first, we don't know yet how the MC's powers are going to tranfer to his kids. Maria has a Flame, but will all his children do?

Second, lots of them will be bastards. The MC will certainly make his future heir a noble if he/she was a lowborn, but the others? Probably not. That would cause many problem, and Sariel need to approve it. And having a dozen more nobles, all in the same place, is not something that she will allow. Again, too many problems. Of course, all the mages will be nobles, but by the law a mage is defined by arcane-based magic, not elemental. Because elemental magic is very, very rare in humans it was never really taken into acount.

I didnt even consider the time passed, anyways thanks for all this amazing content

 

[Elhemeer]

Because elemental magic is very, very rare in humans it was never really taken into acount.

So in the future, it'll only be very rare, or will it just be rare?

Yes, I just snarked myself ...

 

[e6mill]

So in the future, it'll only be very rare, or will it just be rare?

In Henri's case I think we safely assume it'd be seared on the outside, so that'd make it bleu, right?

 

[Pirilampalharei]

So in the future, it'll only be very rare, or will it just be rare?

Yes, I just snarked myself ...

With how many children the MC will spread upon the world, with him, and them, being long lived, quite probably being fertile for most of it, the "rare" part is about to go out of fashion.

If a "normal" human could be making babies for 80+ years, and with enough women willing could have over a 100 children, easily, how many can we estimate for a 500+ years old pervert with a pregnancy fetish? 2000? More? With his children coming into the mix... no, I don't think "rarity" will ever be an issue for "Elemental Magic" anymore.

Maybe they should even consider the creation of a School of Elemental Magic in that city of theirs.

 

[e6mill]

no, I don't think "rarity" will ever be an issue for "Elemental Magic" anymore.

Assuming every one of his kids gets it. 1 for 1 isn't really enough to extrapolate from...

 

[Pirilampalharei]

Assuming every one of his kids gets it. 1 for 1 isn't really enough to extrapolate from...

From what I was made to understand, and I admit I may be wrong, the type of magic the Djinn passes to his prole, doesn't follow the rules of the other magic, it is not a chance, but a racial characteristic.

If I understood it wrong, I'm sorry, but that was the impression I was left with.

 

[Elhemeer]

From what I was made to understand, and I admit I may be wrong, the type of magic the Djinn passes to his prole, doesn't follow the rules of the other magic, it is not a chance, but a racial characteristic.

If I understood it wrong, I'm sorry, but that was the impression I was left with.

If you'd posted this a couple days ago, I would have said you're probably interpreting how it was represented in the game correctly.

However, in a recent post Vanderer makes a couple statements:

We don't know yet how the MC's powers are going to tranfer to his kids. Maria has a Flame, but will all his children do?

So the question of how likely his progeny will have the flame is up in the air.

And second, which was what prompted the question I posed that you responded to:

Of course, all the mages will be nobles, but by the law a mage is defined by arcane-based magic, not elemental. Because elemental magic is very, very rare in humans it was never really taken into acount.

And since your rebuttal to my snarky question has yet (nor is it likely) to be answered by Vanderer (at least not directly) we can't know that his legacy will significantly increase those ratios, even if it seems likely.

 

[Daermon420]

Of course, all the mages will be nobles, but by the law a mage is defined by arcane-based magic, not elemental. Because elemental magic is very, very rare in humans it was never really taken into acount.

Interesting. I'd figured that the arcane spark would always come along with the elemental one, even if it's weaker and harder to control because the flame can interfere. Is Henry just very lucky to have both?

 

[Elhemeer]

Interesting. I'd figured that the arcane spark would always come along with the elemental one, even if it's weaker and harder to control because the flame can interfere. Is Henry just very lucky to have both?

I mean, he IS an orphan MC in a Fantasy genera game, so that's sort of empirically implied?

 

[Daermon420]

I mean, he IS an orphan MC in a Fantasy genera game, so that's sort of empirically implied?

Yeah very true lol. Just a little surprised because it sounds like he's even luckier than I'd thought since even though it's not nearly as rare as his Flame, the arcane spark seems to be fairly rare in an of itself since any who have it are promoted to nobles. That wouldn't be the case if there were tons around with arcane magic.

So he got doubly lucky I guess, getting both.

 

[e6mill]

So the question of how likely his progeny will have the flame is up in the air.

Convenient to have lots of fire elementalists in Wildale - because it's close to the orcs and they make good kindling.

 

[Pirilampalharei]

Convenient to have lots of fire elementalists in Wildale - because it's close to the orcs and they make good kindling.

If the "Flame" turns out to be racially based and therefore less rare the more there are Djinn descendants, it will be fun to see what the mix of Elf, Djinn and Human turns out to be when the MC's Elven wives produce heirs.

The Orcs, do we want them Rare or Medium Rare?

 

[Dragon1960]

Will we ever see them retake the mine ?

 

[Fulminato]

Interesting. I'd figured that the arcane spark would always come along with the elemental one, even if it's weaker and harder to control because the flame can interfere. Is Henry just very lucky to have both?

"spark" it's the source of elemental lighting magic. as "flame" is for elemental fire, "shard" for elemental ice and "drop" for elemental water. vander explained in his setting djin are master of all elemental magic types, but the their children with other race it's up to random chance the type and the strength of inherited elemental magic. the MC got very lucky and got a strong flame and a decent spark, in addition his arcane potential, probably inherited from his human lineage.

If the "Flame" turns out to be racially based and therefore less rare the more there are Djinn descendants, it will be fun to see what the mix of Elf, Djinn and Human turns out to be when the MC's Elven wives produce heirs.

The Orcs, do we want them Rare or Medium Rare?

all fire elemental magic come from a flame. and there are more creature be able to use it not only djinn. at the start of the game are noted most fire elementalist come from dragon or efreet descendance.

Will we ever see them retake the mine ?

in a future, i hope. or i bash personally vander with a ceckov gun.

 

[Vanderer]

Interesting. I'd figured that the arcane spark would always come along with the elemental one, even if it's weaker and harder to control because the flame can interfere. Is Henry just very lucky to have both?

Yes and no. Arcane Wells (the technical name for the reserve of magic inside a body) are inside everyone, but for most people, those are very, very small. The average Well is a thousandth of what Athagan has. And the MC's is bigger. But his Well is not due to luck, well, not only.

Most people can atually use arcane-based magic, it's just not really useful. Like a car with a fuel tank the size of a thimble, you get what I mean?

Elemental magic is incredibly rare, in Aetas, there are two. The only other known elemental magic users are the high-elves, who are the only rivals of Aetas when it come to magic, and they only have four themselves. None are as strong as the MC.

There are other beings were it's more common, but those beings are generally living in the plane of Fire. In the material plane, the one the story take place so far, Djinn and Dragons are known to have elemental magic as default. Djinns are nearly extinct, and the dragons mostly keep to themselves since a war between them and the humanoid races decimated their numbers. It happenned centuries ago, before the curse.

So yeah, Henri is the exception.

I mean, he IS an orphan MC in a Fantasy genera game, so that's sort of empirically implied?

That's a good one.

I never hid that it was a power fantasy. As for the orphan, I wanted to follow the time-honored tradition of the players choosing to make their characters orphans. And while it was not planned, not having to answer the "When are we going to fuck the Mom?" from incest lover, like a lot of other devs, is appreciated.

Will we ever see them retake the mine ?

Yep. But not soon. Right now they are about Eloise and avenging the biological attack on Wildale, and the murder of the Fishmonger's little girl. And it's going to be a long mission with "side quests", so to speak.

"spark" it's the source of elemental lighting magic. as "flame" is for elemental fire, "shard" for elemental ice and "drop" for elemental water. vander explained in his setting djin are master of all elemental magic types, but the their children with other race it's up to random chance the type and the strength of inherited elemental magic. the MC got very lucky and got a strong flame and a decent spark, in addition his arcane potential, probably inherited from his human lineage.



all fire elemental magic come from a flame. and there are more creature be able to use it not only djinn. at the start of the game are noted most fire elementalist come from dragon or efreet descendance.



in a future, i hope. or i bash personally vander with a ceckov gun.

Very good post, everything in it is factual, except for the arcane potential.

 

[Fulminato]

Very good post, everything in it is factual, except for the arcane potential.

but the size of the arcane well is defined at least in part by inheritance, because a child of two mage have very high chance to be a mage themself (mean have enough arcana to awaken) so i suspect will be at least one big mage in MC pedegree, and i suppose was from her mom family branch.