VN Ren'Py The Fiery Scion [Update 28a] [Vander]

[e6mill]

And none of that is getting into the meta knowledge that Liliana will be joining our harem at some later point

Will she? Isn't there a rule about having more than one retired priestess and aren't she and Helen both that?

 

[S1nsational]

Will she? Isn't there a rule about having more than one retired priestess and aren't she and Helen both that?

I remember Vander saying she will, but I could be mistaken. If I'm right, and he has said that, I wouldn't be surprised if the fact she first married Athagan and bore a child by him would allow her to remarry without restriction in the event of her first husband dying.
But even if she won't, I fully stand by everything else I said in that comment.

 

[HiHaHo]

im sure regrading solange will be treated more as a daughter along the way, sure like e6mill said harem courtesy or customs play some role, but its also a time factor ,athagan raised the MC so they build a father son relationship over the years, so same will most likely happen whit the MC and solange when she starts to develop more individuality as a person.

for she's still a stepdaughter from a concubine, their father-daughter relationship will need some time to develop but we already see the mc at least help raise her and treat her like part off the family, if he didn't care for her happiness he wouldn't have offered her the same pony deal as maria

I do hope the MC finds a way around or a loophole kinda thing for the only one ishtar priestess thing because i'd like to add all 3 windale priestesses shown to the harem and the yes ofcrouse lilianna after she had time to grieve

 

[Bingoogus]

So how often do releases come for this game? What's the turnover and if i were to subscribe, when would be the smartest time to do it?

 

[HiHaHo]

So how often do releases come for this game? What's the turnover and if i were to subscribe, when would be the smartest time to do it?

depends Vanderer updates depend on planned content stopping useally at nighttime when the MC sleeps The latest is a shorter one because its just a trip from 1 city to a other
but it reflects in development time - average about 4-6 week for a update( there should be a post tracking it)

 

[Modhunter]

I don't get why excellent VN's like this don't have 2\3000 supporters and it get updates almost 2 times a quarter but WMV makes a killing and has like an update a year. It boggles the mind and is beyond infuriating. Keep truckin' Vander

 

[HiHaHo]

I don't get why excellent VN's like this don't have 2\3000 supporters and it get updates almost 2 times a quarter but WMV makes a killing and has like an update a year. It boggles the mind and is beyond infuriating. Keep truckin' Vander

probably because wvm is a more sex based avn and tfs is more a story based one at least IMO
wvm also has been around longer

 

[kenny]

Not sure if vanderer checks here for stuff like this, but using "can't" here is wrong, should be can.

probably because wvm is a more sex based avn and tfs is more a story based one at least IMO
wvm also has been around longer

Second time I see wvm mentioned on the site, what is it?

 

[HiHaHo]

Not sure if vanderer checks here for stuff like this, but using "can't" here is wrong, should be can.
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Second time I see wvm mentioned on the site, what is it?

yes vanderer is active in the thread

and wvm is a other avn (one whit some controversy around its development but you can read about it in the wvm thread)

 

[Perv_Old_Robot]

Is there a compressed version of this new update?

 

[CrazyChicken87]

Is there a compressed version of this new update?

Won't be for a bit because one of the main compressors for the site who volunteers to do the compressions had a family emergency so who knows who will be doing the compression for it. https://f95zone.to/threads/game-compression-requests-3-0.176210/post-13840298

 

[Vanderer]

Thanks to modern science, now you don't even need to get out of bed to man the cannons.

Yeah, I need to remake that one...

Sarah hasn't been in the game very long, but this update made me fall in love with her.

My one problem with this update, and it's been happening for a while, is how MC treats Solange. Don't get me wrong, she's treated well and often much the same as Maria, but MC doesn't treat her or see her as his daughter. Every so often he'll refer to Solange as his stepdaughter, but most of the time he treats her as simply his daughters friend even when granting her the same things as Maria. It's wrong. Especially when he himself treats Athagan in every way like his father, when it's only been an official adoption a couple of months. I don't care that one girl is a commoner and the other a born noble, if they're to be sisters let them actually be sisters. Both should be referred to as his daughters, they should be referred to as each others sister. There's a distasteful irony that this continues in an update heavily focusing on the impact of how two sisters were treated.

Dude, the MC just met her! And yes, the MC is Athagan's son for a short time, but Athagan took care of the MC for more than a decade before that. Comparing the two is disingenuous.

And I really don't see how the MC mistreat Solange. He's going to buy her a pony like Maria, took her to the captial in a skyship like Maria. Sure, he don't treat her like her daughter, bacause she's his stepdaughter. For now.

Not sure if vanderer checks here for stuff like this, but using "can't" here is wrong, should be can.
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Thanks, corrected for the next update.

im sure regrading solange will be treated more as a daughter along the way, sure like e6mill said harem courtesy or customs play some role, but its also a time factor ,athagan raised the MC so they build a father son relationship over the years, so same will most likely happen whit the MC and solange when she starts to develop more individuality as a person.

for she's still a stepdaughter from a concubine, their father-daughter relationship will need some time to develop but we already see the mc at least help raise her and treat her like part off the family, if he didn't care for her happiness he wouldn't have offered her the same pony deal as maria

I do hope the MC finds a way around or a loophole kinda thing for the only one ishtar priestess thing because i'd like to add all 3 windale priestesses shown to the harem and the yes ofcrouse lilianna after she had time to grieve

You got it for Solange!
As for the pristesses rules, it's for the warded ones. Basically, it's a rule that's in place so one man cannot claim tham all for himself, so after that they are considered normal women. Being a Priestess of Ishater is a role that stop the day they marry. Then, their duty is to their husband.

So how often do releases come for this game? What's the turnover and if i were to subscribe, when would be the smartest time to do it?

Here is a post from Tiur with the size and dates of the releases.

 

[Bingoogus]

Here is a post from Tiur with the size and dates of the releases.

Oof, that was a bit data dense on first seeing it, brain kinda jammed up from the overload but breaking up it looks like you go roughly 4 to 6 weeks between updates (just like HiHaHo said)... guess i'll pop in with a donation in about 3 or so weeks

 

[Ka1tzer]

Found the game recently and been playing for a little while. Not sure how close I am to the end of content yet, but from comments it feels like I'm getting close.

Two things that kinda got in my mind as a curiosity and that I haven't seen clearly explained in the game though:

1 - Was Karla a virgin when the MC took her in the tower? That is never clarified. MC states she was his first but the reverse is never stated. That on top of her being a mage (and thus being far more independent than most women and having the societal rules apply differently to her). She does mention "having one last adventure" before acquiescing to her jerk father's (and Eloise's) demands, but the MC put a stop to that when he claimed her;

2 - Priestesses of Ishtar: It is generally frowned upon to make a move on them, and it's expected of them to make the move if and when they are interested in someone, not the reverse. It is never said anywhere that they are forbidden from having partners before their belly ward expires though. At the same time, during the Ishtar ritual of marriage, the priestess always make it a point to indicate to the husband-to-be if the lady he is about to marry is a virgin or not. So with that preamble out of the way, are the priestesses supposed to be and stay virgins until they choose/marry a partner? Are they "free" to engage with others due to their position? Or does it vary depending on the individual priestess?

Finally... can we abolish the rule that a guy can only have 1 priestess with him? Cause I just played through the wedding scene after the orc raid on Wildale and it'd be lovely to have both the High Priestess as well as the normal priestess (the one who pressured the High Priestess into making a decision about the MC) in the harem.


Overall, I've been enjoying the game for what it is. I wouldn't call it a masterpiece or anything and it has a fair number of flaws, but it's a pretty good "comfort game" (in a similar way to which we'd use the term "comfort food"). It's nice.

 

[S1nsational]

Dude, the MC just met her! And yes, the MC is Athagan's son for a short time, but Athagan took care of the MC for more than a decade before that. Comparing the two is disingenuous.

And I really don't see how the MC mistreat Solange. He's going to buy her a pony like Maria, took her to the captial in a skyship like Maria. Sure, he don't treat her like her daughter, bacause she's his stepdaughter. For now.

Comparing to Athagan isn't disingenuous at all. MC changes his relationship dynamic with women at the drop of a hat all the time. MC barely knows Solange's mother and has already effectively married her. And he always immediately starts thinking of the women as being his, there's no waiting, there's no "waiting" a period of time. There's practically jewelry placed on them before MC has finished cumming in them.

I'm not saying Solange is being treated badly, but the dynamic between her and MC needs to be improved. MC needs to start thinking of her as his. She's his daughter now. And bringing up that she's his stepdaughter is a pathetic defense. There is absolutely no good reason to mark that distinction. "For now", I can only hope means you plan of some formal adoption happening. Because I can't see anything else of worth for that. And even if she is to be formally adopted at some point in the future, that is no reason why terminology about her can't be changed both in MCs own thoughts and in how he speaks both to and about her in the present.

I'm not saying he has to be completely used to it immediately, but having him make mistakes and correcting himself even in his own thoughts would be a good step in the right direction.

 

[HiHaHo]

1 - Was Karla a virgin when the MC took her in the tower? That is never clarified. MC states she was his first but the reverse is never stated. That on top of her being a mage (and thus being far more independent than most women and having the societal rules apply differently to her). She does mention "having one last adventure" before acquiescing to her jerk father's (and Eloise's) demands, but the MC put a stop to that when he claimed her;

im 90% sure she had her chastity ,she explains their first encounter during a scene in the garden pools

2 - Priestesses of Ishtar: It is generally frowned upon to make a move on them, and it's expected of them to make the move if and when they are interested in someone, not the reverse. It is never said anywhere that they are forbidden from having partners before their belly ward expires though. At the same time, during the Ishtar ritual of marriage, the priestess always make it a point to indicate to the husband-to-be if the lady he is about to marry is a virgin or not. So with that preamble out of the way, are the priestesses supposed to be and stay virgins until they choose/marry a partner? Are they "free" to engage with others due to their position? Or does it vary depending on the individual priestess?

staying a virgin until marriage seems to be the general custom but naturally some people disregard these,being part off the clergy that hold the customs in high regard i doubt any would brake them
as for why its frowned up to court them is due the their Ward protecting their womb from the global curse (which is still kind off a mystery to me on how it works but it basicly inhibits pregnancy especially if its a male offspring)

 

[Phasmo3321]

Is there a android version

 

[HiHaHo]

Is there a android version

not right now,
i don't know if vanderer plans to add it to but you can ask in the android reqeust thread to have one adapted

 

[TigerWolfe]

Is there a android version

Ghost was doing one, but seems to have stopped. DA is also doing one but seems to have slowed to every other update.

 

[Vanderer]

Comparing to Athagan isn't disingenuous at all. MC changes his relationship dynamic with women at the drop of a hat all the time. MC barely knows Solange's mother and has already effectively married her. And he always immediately starts thinking of the women as being his, there's no waiting, there's no "waiting" a period of time. There's practically jewelry placed on them before MC has finished cumming in them.

I'm not saying Solange is being treated badly, but the dynamic between her and MC needs to be improved. MC needs to start thinking of her as his. She's his daughter now. And bringing up that she's his stepdaughter is a pathetic defense. There is absolutely no good reason to mark that distinction. "For now", I can only hope means you plan of some formal adoption happening. Because I can't see anything else of worth for that. And even if she is to be formally adopted at some point in the future, that is no reason why terminology about her can't be changed both in MCs own thoughts and in how he speaks both to and about her in the present.

I'm not saying he has to be completely used to it immediately, but having him make mistakes and correcting himself even in his own thoughts would be a good step in the right direction.

Well, dude, since my opinion on it is, to quote you, pathetic, you should play another VN, because he ain't going to go away soon.