VN Ren'Py The Fiery Scion [Update 28a] [Vander]

[HiHaHo]

My guess is that after we deal with the ex princess there will be some time skips where the party trains, gets better gear etc. and we get some montage episodes about the best bits. Considering there's obviously a long plot going on I'm not expecting Vanderer to keep this level of detail through the whole thing... actually I rather hope for the opposite because too many stories refuse to do time skips and so everything from the MC starting out to ending a cataclysmic disaster tends to happen within a couple of months at most and then we get some pitiful "ending slides". I want games where the actual relationships, pregnancies etc actually happen and the LI's story doesn't end after they get together with the MC.

Might be too much of a speculation but my feeling is that ex princess dies, time skips happen, Athagan gets older and weaker and an assassin or a Daemon gets the better of him at which point we return to normal time.

yeah something along those lines, but i think well get to resolve at least Kess her scars
it was mentioned quite a few times that eloise has proactively using those orcs and most likely is hiding inside their territory where the orc whit the cursed blades also is most likely to be around he seems likely to be some orc champion or chieftan so i expect some showdown whit it before,during or right after dealing whit eloise

 

[harem.king]

Athagan's will surely die protecting us, he is that kind of guy.

I am hoping he does not die

 

[SlapE]

I am hoping he does not die

Well... I have some bad news. There's a reason we're all talking about it after all. Because it's done been confirmed to be something that will happen in the future.

 

[HiHaHo]

Well... I have some bad news. There's a reason we're all talking about it after all. Because it's done been confirmed to be something that will happen in the future.

yeah we got a few people here that weren't there when vanderer spilled the beans

 

[e6mill]

AVN dads just have the worst life expectancy...

 

[HiHaHo]

AVN dads just have the worst life expectancy...

yeah the only ones that are exempt tend to also be the MC

 

[Fulminato]

My guess is that after we deal with the ex princess there will be some time skips where the party trains, gets better gear etc. and we get some montage episodes about the best bits. Considering there's obviously a long plot going on I'm not expecting Vanderer to keep this level of detail through the whole thing... actually I rather hope for the opposite because too many stories refuse to do time skips and so everything from the MC starting out to ending a cataclysmic disaster tends to happen within a couple of months at most and then we get some pitiful "ending slides". I want games where the actual relationships, pregnancies etc actually happen and the LI's story doesn't end after they get together with the MC.

Might be too much of a speculation but my feeling is that ex princess dies, time skips happen, Athagan gets older and weaker and an assassin or a Daemon gets the better of him at which point we return to normal time.

well vander talked about future ship travel taking weeks to complete, so some time skip will be inevitables.

well athagan death it's prevedible as is sad. the guy it's a real solid character with badass moment of pure badassitude. (cit)

 

[Vanderer]

well vander talked about future ship travel taking weeks to complete, so some time skip will be inevitables.

Yep, there will be timeskips, notably when they will go to Honshu, the fantasy Japan of the setting. Right now, though, he has too much going to do that.

I intend the game to still have 2 years of development, perhaps more, so there will be time for that later.

 

[harem.king]

Well... I have some bad news. There's a reason we're all talking about it after all. Because it's done been confirmed to be something that will happen in the future.

I am very sad

 

[Vanderer]

Well... I have some bad news. There's a reason we're all talking about it after all. Because it's done been confirmed to be something that will happen in the future.

I missed that one. I never confirmed anything, except that Liliana will join the harem one day.

 

[SlapE]

I missed that one. I never confirmed anything, except that Liliana will join the harem one day.

Okay, but let's be honest, he either has to die or become paralyzed permanently or something drastic for that to happen. Anything other than Athagan dying would be lame, because if he's still alive that means the MC cucks him pretty much, even if they divorced for whatever reason. Being with her while Athagan is still alive would be a bad look not gonna lie.

Please don't make my mans Athagan get cucked, death would be much more badass and not ruin his legacy, the mans already lost his dick.

 

[Phase_01]

In the same vein, I feel like whatever happens to Athagan needs to feel worthy of his legacy
That man is so powerful, that a "normal" death would feel lacklustre for him imo

I usually hate deaths as a story element (call me a pussy lol) but he does feel like that mentor type character that will eventually face it, like Gandalf/Dumbledore, and I can see it feeling sour to see a character like him be cucked lol
I like netori but not when it happens to good characters like him and I don't think sharing is a thing in this world lol

But yea, I don't like death but can't really see any other reason Lilliana joins the MC's harem, but I'll be pleasantly surprised to see an interesting outcome out of it, or even a bittersweet one.

 

[HiHaHo]

As for being interested in the MC, no, I didn't show any of that....yet. She likes the MC, and is happy to have him make the other women of the household happy, but she's a very devoted wife. She loves her husband deeply, and any mention of cheating on him would be followed by a swift kick to the balls.

As for the future, yeah, she will join, but not soon.

I missed that one. I never confirmed anything, except that Liliana will join the harem one day.

even if you didn't confirm ,1+1=2
its kinda obvious that Athagan is going to die at some point most fans just want him to have a good death

 

[e6mill]

But yea, I don't like death but can't really see any other reason Lilliana joins the MC's harem, but I'll be pleasantly surprised to see an interesting outcome out of it, or even a bittersweet one.

She's a former priestess and as such is protected from the curse (assuming that the protection is good for more that the first kid). As such keeping her from having babies is rolling dice with the future of humanity. And Athgan seems to be the type to be willing to take one for the team when it's for the greater good. It also makes her happy to have babies. Given that Athgan can't give her more children that she wants (and humanity needs if it is to survive) it doessn't seem like him giving her a hall pass is out of the question. Also, hasn't a legal minimum of 2 children been mentioned? She has only 1...

 

[Fulminato]

She's a former priestess and as such is protected from the curse (assuming that the protection is good for more that the first kid). As such keeping her from having babies is rolling dice with the future of humanity. And Athgan seems to be the type to be willing to take one for the team when it's for the greater good. It also makes her happy to have babies. Given that Athgan can't give her more children that she wants (and humanity needs if it is to survive) it doessn't seem like him giving her a hall pass is out of the question. Also, hasn't a legal minimum of 2 children been mentioned? She has only 1...

the protection is only for the first pregnancy.

 

[HiHaHo]

She's a former priestess and as such is protected from the curse (assuming that the protection is good for more that the first kid). As such keeping her from having babies is rolling dice with the future of humanity. And Athgan seems to be the type to be willing to take one for the team when it's for the greater good. It also makes her happy to have babies. Given that Athgan can't give her more children that she wants (and humanity needs if it is to survive) it doessn't seem like him giving her a hall pass is out of the question. Also, hasn't a legal minimum of 2 children been mentioned? She has only 1...

on her ward for pregnancy, i haven't read anything about it being a permanent thing, does its strength fade whit time? after childbirth?
also the 2 child law surely exempts cases like athagan's were its impossible to complete the job
the hall pass thing also seems unlikely due to vanderer stating her character traits in that recent post

 

[e6mill]

the 2 child law surely exempts cases like athagan's were its impossible to complete the job

Well, it gets mentioned more than once IIRC, but I have problems with it myself. Specifically I don't see how it could be enforced. "You died without your 2 kids, your corpse is UNDER ARREST!" Ya.

 

[Fulminato]

on her ward for pregnancy, i haven't read anything about it being a permanent thing, does its strength fade whit time? after childbirth?
also the 2 child law surely exempts cases like athagan's were its impossible to complete the job
the hall pass thing also seems unlikely due to vanderer stating her character traits in that recent post

Well, it gets mentioned more than once IIRC, but I have problems with it myself. Specifically I don't see how it could be enforced. "You died without your 2 kids, your corpse is UNDER ARREST!" Ya.

based on the info vanderer disclosed it's more like before two childs a woman cannot access to contraceptives.

 

[Vanderer]

the protection is only for the first pregnancy.

Yep.

based on the info vanderer disclosed it's more like before two childs a woman cannot access to contraceptives.

Exactly. In the case of Athagan and Liliana, of course they are not against the law, or even against the morals of most people.

Besides, Athagan has a special place in the mind of the Aetan people, and the whole world. He's the guy that was instrumental in repelling the first demon invasion. He was, and still is, the strongest of the Iron Quintet.

And in other battles...the guy show up and cast his signature spell and make meteors fall from the sky! No mage come even close. Even the High Elves, arrogant as they are, recognise his place as the one of the strongest, and the most versatile, mage alive. He's THE hero of Aetas, the reason why a lot of soldiers come back to their familly after a battle. His name will be spoken a thousand year in the future. That's how good he is. In D&D terms, he's a level 20 mage.

And even after all that, he's still not an arrogant asshole. Nearly everyone love him, and everyone, even his enemies, respect him. He's just, and a good ruler. And even in his sixties, he's still fight and protect Wildale who get the brunt of the attacks of Aetas ennemies.

So, even if he was against the law, nobody is going to give him shit about it. Because he's loved, and because becomming his ennemy is a very unhealthy thing to do. Hell, if he made a move against Sariel...he probably would gather more troops under his banner than her.

Anyways, I disgress a little and got of-topic. Oh well.

 

[Skep-tiker]

came back after longer hiatus... sadly still no Kes scenes ..

my question: what has Eloise done to MC/Karla prior her treason? i can't remember for real.