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Baradui111
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I think it's the celebration of Monica's bar opening that Vander teased. That's why I was wondering how Helen's parents arrived in Windale so quickly. As for the strange lady next to Helen's father, I don't think it's his wife. what's the point of him dragging her so far if he didn't take her to a meeting with MC and Helen...
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It's more than likely that he has several - a long-lived, successful merchant and all.
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it's helen's sister. confirmed by vander in discordfew days ago.
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That's one hell of a lot of renders. Probably gonna be the largest update we've had (so far).
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Yes! I felt that something was wrong with her. And that's right: they wouldn't have dragged another wife with them, but Helen's own sister, yes, to such a significant event .... and to show off to a groom like MC, he would suddenly take her.....
And she did not attend the meeting at the palace, as it was not part of the ritual...
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i don't think a 2nd wife was bad guess though,men have harems and the "why wasn't she at lunch" is easily excused with "because she's not helen's mother".
and just because she's a somewhat attractive women the MC won't instantly jump on her,he's resolved to slowdown growing the harem.
Karla's sisters are a good example,the mc has shared a bath with Caithrine(i think) ,saw her naked and didn't lust after her.
even with discussing her body,and how she's a good looking woman.
Baradui111
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That's what I meant when I wrote that why drag a second wife so far...
As for adding Helen's sister to the harem and MC's lust, I agree that he is driven by not such simple motives and desires. And that MC's intentions are the right ones. But remembering his trip to Monica's for a keg of ale and what they told him and how he reacted to what Laura showed him....
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soon MC will star in a theatrical version of saturday night fever? cause im down for that too!
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it would make no sense for the isthar priestess tradation "lunch with the parents",but brining a wife on a trip to a other city/town? meeting the new in-laws? that would make sense to me
i think he will restrain himself with her,but we'll see
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Perhaps you’re right, and Luke might have taken a second wife, but why not a third or even more? The question still remains: how did they manage to get there so quickly? If it was teleportation, then why so abruptly? You’re right—we’ll just have to wait for the next update... which is going to be a major one...And then it occurred to me that we were discussing whether the MC would add someone to the harem. But in reality, it’s not us making the decisions—it’s them, the women. The MC thought he’d had enough women in his harem and decided against taking any more, but then Liliana came along and changed his mind. And now: Vivian is keeping him company in bed, and Julia is accompanying him to the capital. Vander even stated outright that the maid from the southern islands will be there as well. We’ll just have to see what happens with the head of the guard and the other guards. Don’t mention the hairdresser—she’s an exception. She went after something sacred—his family and daughter. Though I have a hunch she’ll find a way into the harem someday in the future.it would make no sense for the isthar priestess tradation "lunch with the parents",but brining a wife on a trip to a other city/town? meeting the new in-laws? that would make sense to me
i think he will restrain himself with her,but we'll see
And then there are the gingers—when he came to them complaining that he didn’t want to take anyone into the harem, and then suddenly a real lover for the summer princess appeared.
And what did the gingers tell him? That it’s all nonsense, they agree to everything—let him accept everyone!
I certainly understand that it’s Vanderer’s decision, and he and VN's logic determine who will be in the MC’s harem and who won’t. However, it seems to me that he also grasps this reality of our life.
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As far as second guessing who is who from spoilers as Vanderer tends to reuse templates even if it is of primary characters (or even the MC himself). Unless you think Lady Lillion moonlights as a food vendor or the mc is related to an archdruid and a citra general lol.
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that entire situation is already special,Lily is kinda exempt from a lot of ishtar "duties" due to Athagan being a unich ,also she's getting older there might be a age limit on that remarry requirement.
we are kinda left out on the specifics for that, i do believe this would be one off the few thing Vanderer actually should make a legit choice,at least being sexual with her.
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we'll see, i don't think Vanderer would abandon his fans that don't want to out respect for athagan.
i could be on copium,or you could just be horny, probably both.
not our decision in the end ,its vanderers
So you think Vanderer won't "abandon" his fans that don't want it but will abandon his fans who do? That's a completely silly concept. It's a story. The writer himself needs to tell it how he wants and not hold himself hostage to the whims of the fanbase. Let him cook, and atm it looks like he's cooking up a tasty plate of Liliana.
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well the bit about the plot is correct that he would have more responsibilities etc,i do think you're being dishonest saying that the reason demons don't invade is because off athagan,there are a lot more powerful people then just athagan, and the iron quintet did decimate a large part off the demon army,which current status still is unknown but likely not big enough for a full blown invasion.
and no i don't think Lianna is legit sexually into mc right now,sure she acknowledges he is fine man/lover/husband without actually wanting him to become hers,just like the MC could admit similar about her.
she seems to me still very much into athagan,and we haven't seen anything towards the MC.
her having to remarry is very much for that religion,and would largely depends if she could still have children,if she can its up for debate considering she's been exempt from baby making due to athagan,if she no longer can i don't think she has to remarry.
As for sariel,she is already interested but she's made a vow to herself she intends to uphold,no "athagan 2.0" needed and that wouldn't happen they are way different kind off mages ,the MC will never be a mage like athagan but it is likely he will reach the same status or possibly higher.
also i wouldn't worry about people not understanding your opinion on abandoning fans,if the game developer tag sparked some interest in people and they spend 5min time they'd get a idea on your views for that.
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HiHaHo
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hey i did say make it a choice didn't i,i would like him to give that option,i'd never "demand" he does so.
just seems the best option to make it so IMO,that way he can give both sides what they wanted.
no need to let down any side for that.
if he for some reason couldn't and did force her path ,i wouldn't like it but i wouldn't abandon or dislike the entire VN because of it.
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well it was said that being Lustfull is sorta a requirement for being a priestess of ishtar,and making baby's is a big part off that,when she heard about the MC "closing"(slowing down actually) his harem she pleaded on behalf off the households childless women.
hearing about the MC's sexlife isn't a reason as to why she'd have to marry him instead off someone else,and we going sit here and pretend wanting her for her body is bad or something because im pretty sure it's a big reason why so many want her,as for her power she's strong but you could find stronger/more powerful women in other sect's ,as Isthar is mostly about fertility not strength or power.
There are plenty off decent other options out there,i know the MC is that top 1% man but he isn't the only Good man in the world.
And no the reason why i don't want to take a Lilianna path is her being"used goods", there are plenty widows in the harem.
the reason is mostly that she's also kinda a mother figure for the MC,not just as Athgan's wife but also that she helped raise him alongside him.
i don't really want to bed and marry my fathers wife a month after he died. who also happens to fill a mother figure role.
there is no real big political reason to marry Lilliana after athagan dies, the MC is heir most off what athagans had/has will go to him,most importantly being the head of the house, depending on which family holds she then belongs to(remaining in athagans or returning to her parents side) the mc would ether have complete authority and if its her parents side he'd likely ensure or enforce her will,and that's ignoring the fact ishtar priestesses have the right to choose themselves.
Sariel wouldn't have to stick her neck out to save her,but she's the type to do so regardless if not because she's her friend then for Athgan.
but again all that depends on that she "HAS" to remarry...there is always still the option that she's infertile and no longer has to acording to ishtars teachings
it was ment that as a slight jab for the " As for 'abandoning the fans' Not to be an asshole but screw fans like that. "comment
the loss off your parents this year is most certainly valid reason to be able to produce content and i mean that.
but i won't actually apologize for it.(if you're curious to why shoot me a DM because its to crude to do publicly)
many dev's have struggle's in their lives which sadly does kill VN's and the back & forth on tags and what fans would like to see or not see will always stay(kinda like we've been doing).
there is no such thing as a "invalid" opinion,and i very much like debating oppisits but in the end there is no right or wrong its all subjective.
and yes people have real life to deal with,and it often does sucks ass. for dev's ,fans and just general people.
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