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"Not the best" in an understatement in my opinion. Save transfers can be wonky, you cannot access all content from a single program, and so forth. I'd rather have the inconvenience of a huge download once than to experience it again and again while playing.
And why not simply pack game into two-part .zip file? Example:
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Xantoser

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Mega limits the total amount of download to 5 Go.
That means you'll be stuck at 5 Go, whether it's by dowloading 1 or 2 files.
I know, but at least you can download it in two days :) . With >5 GB single file on Mega, you cannot download it at all (at least without VPN combining).
 
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ccxvidonaferens

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Could go the easy rout and split the game into chapters. Importing the save between each... Not the best but a workaround.
Given the design and build of this game I don't think the chapter route would work with how content is being added. Individual storylines are being added/expanded for the girls and staff which when added can be played individually but if playing a brand new start, as either a new player or just wanting to replay from the start those additions can be played/progressed simultaneously in a similar way as to progressing main/side quests in games such as Skyrim/Witcher 3 etc. I could very well be wrong. It's just my gut feeling.
 

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I know, but at least you can download it in two days :) . With >5 GB single file on Mega, you cannot download it at all (at least without VPN combining).
You can download the Mega software on your PC (I think it's called MegaSync) - it's free. It will stopped at 5 Go as well but will automatically resume the download once available.
I did it yesterday to have the release version on my computer: started it at 1 PM, was over around 8 PM, without any action from me. And it did stuck at 5 Go at some point but automatically restarted.
 

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Can someone explain how to get that water fight event in the weekend? All I get is the twin playing ball or the sunbathing part.
 

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Can someone explain how to get that water fight event in the weekend? All I get is the twin playing ball or the sunbathing part.
I believe there is a bit of RNG under the hood for the first event triggering with a popularity level requirement to take part. After that there are a couple of items required to cause the second event to be different. You get one of them from Miss Chang quite early on and the other through the spamazon shop but this item is only available after the first event has been played.
 
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"Not the best" in an understatement in my opinion. Save transfers can be wonky, you cannot access all content from a single program, and so forth. I'd rather have the inconvenience of a huge download once than to experience it again and again while playing.
While not the best it would likely be the easiest and straightforward option.
Im not defending it, just explaining it. Id prefer a patch/addon functionality but due to the engine (renpy) i have doubs on it even being feasible.

Given the design and build of this game I don't think the chapter route would work with how content is being added. Individual storylines are being added/expanded for the girls and staff which when added can be played individually but if playing a brand new start, as either a new player or just wanting to replay from the start those additions can be played/progressed simultaneously in a similar way as to progressing main/side quests in games such as Skyrim/Witcher 3 etc. I could very well be wrong. It's just my gut feeling.
The "build" of the game is already split into chapters if i remember, segmenting milestones between chapters wouldn't actually be that hard.
Transferring to a new chapter/EXE for the next chapter would be a X number of times change for a full play-through. X being the number of chapters. There wouldn't be any back and forth.
But this is all speculation, not the best option but an option.

To go on a wild one, heres an idea bomb.

The game could be split into seasons, the current game definitely feels like summer. Maybe the next could be autumn or winter.

Fully different weather to give a complete shift in everything. Having to close the lake for health and safety, students asking for it to be open for ice skating? Hiring an skating teacher? after school club?
Dressing sexy but cant dress too sexy due to cold (internal conflict) lol.
Potential for girls to get colds?
hot coco and movies every night!
Snowball fights and snow down the cleavage.
HM cant look through the windows at night due to the weather and has to push for dorm entry.
The potentials are nice to think about atleast. Allowing large changes to the norm with little contextual issues.

And again, not trying to push the idea.
 
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Im not defending it, just explaining it. Id prefer a patch/addon functionality but due to the engine (renpy) i have doubs on it even being feasible.
Can be made. Other devs due that already. Usually you have the rpa achrives and could do like for each new version you have a new archive. Don't know the limits and shortcoming from the development side...
 
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How so? Which bugs are you talking about?
It crashes for me during animations. This is on an expensive, recent, gaming laptop, that has never had a single problem with much more complex Steam games. In its present build, The Headmaster is unplayable on my very good machine.
 

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It crashes for me during animations. This is on an expensive, recent, gaming laptop, that has never had a single problem with much more complex Steam games. In its present build, The Headmaster is unplayable on my very good machine.
Is that using the beta on this site or the 13.2 version through patreon. There is supposedly a fix applied for this issue in 13.2. The 13.2 version has not yet been posted here
 
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having an issue on pritti's quest when i go to buy the bikini for her it says it's already purchased when i didn't, and its not on my inventory, how can i progress here?
 

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The new verison of the game 0.13.1Beta, i have a renpy error, i dont see my quest.. only pop up renpy error, any help?
 

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it's 013.0
The new verison of the game 0.13.1Beta, i have a renpy error, i dont see my quest.. only pop up renpy error, any help?
The bikini issue is supposed to have been fixed in a patch that changed the version number to 13.1Beta. 13.1Beta is not the latest version. There was a 13.1.1 patch released on patreon and then the 13.2 release on Saturday just gone. There are apparently a number of bug fixes in the 13.2 version. These may address your issues though I cannot say for certain as I do not have access to it myself. If it doesn't leak here beforehand it will be released to the public on patreon on or about 10th October
 
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Is that using the beta on this site or the 13.2 version through patreon. There is supposedly a fix applied for this issue in 13.2. The 13.2 version has not yet been posted here
It is the 13.2 version from Patreon, where I'm a supporter. It's not fixed at all, and now the game will neither save nor autosave.
 

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It is the 13.2 version from Patreon, where I'm a supporter. It's not fixed at all, and now the game will neither save nor autosave.
Sorry then. I cannot help. Hopefully someone else will be able to. Perhaps on the supporters section of the discord. Best of luck.
 

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I really hope the team is looking into some other way of distributing the game.
When the file's bigger than 5GB, Mega's not a good solution anymore.
I have experience distributing visual novels, though most were official and unofficial translations of Japanese visual novels where I did technical work (not the actual translation). I won't go into details on that due to NDA through.

First of all, Ren'Py has a hidden limitation in distribution. If you unzip and zip again, odds are that you ruined file attributes and then the mac version won't start and I think linux version too, through I never encountered that personally. I have seen multiple times that amateur VN makers click windows/mac/linux distribution in Ren'Py's project menu and then unzip the file to zip it again as multiple archive for distribution with file size limits for each file. This then results in mac users complaining that it won't start and the creator then usually has no idea they broke anything because it works on their windows computer. The easy fix to this is to create a multi file zip containing the original zip file. Yes it's annoying to add an extra step to unpacking, but it saves a headache later.

The simplest way to distribute is to zip the zip given from Ren'Py and set each file to be max 3.9 GB. This way it won't even cause problems if somebody use outdated software and is still limited to a 4 GB file size. I believe this is distribution approach, which is the least likely to cause problems for the end user.


As for making an upgrade download, I will point out that there exist a solution to this already. It is essentially the same issue as when companies release a VN on a DVD and then provide patches online. Ideally such patches are as small as possible one reason why people might pay extra to get the DVD as opposed to just the download version could be poor internet connection. Alternatively a small download size means less server load. Either way years ago there was one or more commercial interests in finding a solution to this problem.

The approach is to have multiple folders and each folder is packed into a file for distribution. As I recall that's how Ren'Py is by default. Version 13 is then released as it is right now (no change). Then to add the update feature all new graphics are added to a version14 folder. The script then points to version14 when using the new ones while maintaining the old paths for all existing images (and videos etc). If done right, upgrading from version 13 to 14 will then be downloading a new scripts file and version14, hence two files. The user then adds version14 and overwrite scripts and the game will be updated. Repeat for version15.

The obvious benefit of this is much smaller downloads when updating. There are two negative consequences to it through. One is that say there is a movie in version 13, which is remade in version 14. While the old one can be deleted from the full version, people who upgrade will keep the old movie file, which in turn means the installed game is larger when updated than if all is redownloaded. The other issue is that it will fragment the file locations. Say there is a subfolder with Rachel doing (whatever) as a series of background images. A future update replaces one of them to fix a consistency issue, which then means one image from the set is in a different folder than the rest of the set.

Remember this approach was developed to handle small downloads, like fixing script bugs and not to add more chapters. By definition if a VN is released as a DVD then the story is done or you are doing it wrong. I won't say I haven't seen content being added post release, but it's not how it's supposed to work.

There are update creators, which compare the files of two versions and creates a file detailing how to change one to the other. However while that will work fine with unpacked files, I do not believe packed files will benefit from this, particularly not if encrypted or compressed. I do not expect them to work with the files created by Ren'Py or rather it might work, but the patch download might be as big as the zip file itself, completely voiding the point of the patch.

I will strongly recommend doing the multi file zip of a single zip for distribution to keep the file size of each download to something manageable with as low a risk as possible for corrupting anything. The update approach is however something, which I don't know if it's a good idea in this case or not. For all I know it might completely ruin the internal workflow. Still I do believe this is the approach if there is going to be a small update file in the future and since people started talking about it, I felt like mentioning this.

Could go the easy rout and split the game into chapters. Importing the save between each... Not the best but a workaround.
This is a horrible workaround because:
  • transferring savegame data will be tricky
  • the combined filesize of the downloads will be even bigger because there are many shared files (like the map of the school)
  • having the same file in multiple releases is a maintenance nightmare, which is prone to updating one and not the other, which then causes bugs
  • it's not a good player experience to have the game quit and then you need to resume by starting what is essentially a different game
  • It's not a linear story and a number of events aren't linked to a specific chapter. Should they be included in multiple chapters?
When TellTale Games released Back to the future the game, they did so in 5 chapters. They released them one by one across half a year, through later releases had all 5 as single purchase. In chapter one, Marty is asked for his name and you are given a bunch of options for fake names. This answer is remembered and used consistently after that. However starting with chapter 2, his fake name change to a specific one regardless of what you picked because apparently they never did figure out how to transfer the answer between what is essentially standalone games. Now imagine what kind of mess it would be to split the chapters of The Headmaster. The amount of data, which has to go between the standalone chapters is significant and it's game destroying if it doesn't work correctly.

In short I don't see this approach ever being able to work from a technical point of view. Splitting up the game will break a bunch of stuff, which takes ages to fix and transferring data is a nightmare, both in development and for the player.

Sadly since Telltale Games went bankrupt, BTTF the game is no longer for sale. There is no point in searching for it if you haven't bought it already.
 
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