Ren'Py The Headmaster [Mykock's Manor Ch.3] [Altos and Herdone]

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torpedogoat said:
We previously had a long discussion about this. The end result seemed to be that under certain circumstances the Ren'Py development environment creates ZIP files that have a minor deviation from the ZIP standard which a few archive tools (most notably 7zip [edited:], though not for all users) choke on (with or without the ability to still proceed with a warning, depending on command line parameters) but most simply ignore. Almost every other other file archiving tool but 7zip probably does the job.
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I hear what you are saying, and can believe it. Here is my problem with that though... I have played thousands of renpy games, all extracted from archives, this is the first time the builtin linux archive manager ever had an issue. The first time I went to the software store and had to install something different to decompress a file. I am not complaining the extra step, I am saying there might be a more obvious issue here. I like this game, I respect the work that went into creating it, maybe whoever should take an extra few minutes and triple check the archiving solution. Thats all, I wont mention it again.
 
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jrwizzard said:
I hear what you are saying, and can believe it. Here is my problem with that though... I have played thousands of renpy games, all extracted from archives, this is the first time the builtin linux archive manager ever had an issue. The first time I went to the software store and had to install something different to decompress a file. I am not complaining the extra step, I am saying there might be a more obvious issue here. I like this game, I respect the work that went into creating it, maybe whoever should take an extra few minutes and triple check the archiving solution. Thats all, I wont mention it again.
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I spent many hours on researching this:
  • For me, 7zip (I am using Linux, but usually this problem is reported by Windows users; other users don't have this problem with 7zip at all) reported a header problem both for the PC build and for the MacOS build. It refuses to unpack. 7zip is known to be intentionally pedantic where most similar programs are lenient and just unpack archives that implement the standard incorrectly, so long as it's clear what is intended.
  • I downloaded a special archive tool implemented in Ada that has exceptionally good diagnostics. It refuses to unpack these archives and specifies what the problem is: "ZIP.ARCHIVE_CORRUPTED : Bad (or no) end-of-central-directory". That means that the problem is something trivial and easy to ignore (and ignored by most programs), comparable to a missing period at the end of the last sentence of a chapter in a book.
  • Someone contacted the developer or whoever is doing support for The Headmaster on Discord. It appears that the ZIP files in question were created directly by the Ren'Py development environment.
  • While the problem is rare, apparently it has been reported for other games by other developers as well. (Though nobody has mentioned a specific game. Likely this happens only for specific versions, probably triggered by something like the exact number of files in the archive, or the length of the filename of the last file, being divisible by some number.)
There is a lot that isn't clear yet, but I am pretty confident about the following points:
  • There is nothing nefarious going on. No infected downloads. No danger for anyone's computer.
  • It's no use downloading the same files again from the same server or from another server.
  • It's no use complaining to the developer or wherever you got your download from.
  • The two practical solutions are 1) use a different archiving tool to extract the problematic ZIP file, or 2) just download and use the compressed version of the game instead.
  • We are not going to get any further by discussing the problem further. This needs to be addressed by a very experienced software developer who happens to be able to reproduce the problem.
  • Someone could theoretically fix the problem on a case-by-case basis by unpacking the problematic ZIP files with a tool that is not pedantic, then zipping them again and uploading the result. To retain full functionality this should be done on a Linux or MacOS computer (as the executable bits required by these two operating systems will get lost if you do this on Windows). But the whole situation is so murky that addressing developers about this is unlikely to be successful.
 
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Hi, im new to this game, it is possible to advance the game refusing wilson proposition of getting the girl's password? And is he going to continue to be in the game?
 
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th3n said:
Hi, im new to this game, it is possible to advance the game refusing wilson proposition of getting the girl's password? And is he going to continue to be in the game?
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Yes, there is an alternate path, if you have hired Trixie.
 
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TheDevian said:
Yes, there is an alternate path, if you have hired Trixie.
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Don't know who Trixie is. Just played the game, finished the intro and got to that man first because i was curious what's was going to be to get his vote and tbh i just save and exit the game to ask before continuing.
 
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th3n said:
Don't know who Trixie is. Just played the game, finished the intro and got to that man first because i was curious what's was going to be to get his vote and tbh i just save and exit the game to ask before continuing.
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You need to do part of his path, but you can trick him for the end.
 
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th3n said:
Don't know who Trixie is. Just played the game, finished the intro and got to that man first because i was curious what's was going to be to get his vote and tbh i just save and exit the game to ask before continuing.
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To get to Trixie, you need to go part of Miss Chang's path and take the correct (i.e. outrageous, as usual) decisions.
 
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Tzuri said:
I wonder if Wilson will ever get to "help" :sneaky:
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His "help" would not only contradict the current in-game school rules, but also the fans' wishes. This ugly, old, fat guy is pretty unpopular. I'm quite happy to finally have a game in my hands that doesn't feature "Fat Hank," whose model is being used everywhere just because its cheap. Personally, I hope it stays that way.

If this were to become one of the many games where fans who like "old and ugly" and "homeless guys" prevail, the game would lose a lot of its charm and populatiry. The game doesn't only lives from its daring BDSM and dom fetish, its good storytelling, and its psychological core, somewhere between military and psycho doc, but also from its aesthetics. And that's how it should stay. If something isn't broken, don't fix it.
 
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I am not able to find debbie misbehaving anyhow , therefore I can't advance the sally learns the ropes quest , I punished debbie in the classroom itself and not privately before , how to advance the quest now ?
 
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I'm enjoying this game so far, but I am stuck with what appears to be a bug: the office PC shows an email update, but when I click it says there are no emails. I am at Influence 11 and discipline 110, and I feel like that bug is probably stopping my progress.

Any idea on how to move forward?
 
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hentatsujin said:
I'm enjoying this game so far, but I am stuck with what appears to be a bug: the office PC shows an email update, but when I click it says there are no emails. I am at Influence 11 and discipline 110, and I feel like that bug is probably stopping my progress.

Any idea on how to move forward?
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I can't comment on this specific problem, but my experience with this game is that sometimes you have to complete other quests before you can solve the current one.
Check your open quests menue. There may be something there that needs to be done first.
 
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