Ren'Py The Headmaster [v0.16.3] [Altos and Herdone]

[Bearded_NoPants]

Oh no, the girls should definitely have access to phones. I can only imagine the fun of when one of our more voyeuristic students gets into conflict with someone else. She's been filming her playing around with some of the other girls and tries to take it to the headmaster to get her in trouble. In doing so, the headmaster notices all the other photos and videos of classmates on her phone and now has leverage over all three girls.

Now the adjustment to the dress code first banning underwear and then pubic hair are just a few of the ones I'm looking forward to. I could see offering an option to the latter where it either makes makes shaving mandatory or bans it to better appeal to more players, but the resulting increase in art assets might be rather prohibitive.

I like that voyeur idea. Also the biting it her in the ass and we as the HM getting more goodies...

You need read back. We've discussed addition to the rule in general ad nauseam. I've specifically talk about uniform changes to the point AltosandHerdone probably cringe every time they see I posted a comment...


Speaking of...
GOD DAMN IT AltosandHerdone WHY IS IT NOT OCTOBER YET!!!! I"M DYING TO SEE OUR GIRLS!!!

 

[Cartageno]

the resulting increase in art assets might be rather prohibitive.

Unfortunately this. Otherwise I like options like this. You have them e. g. in Love & Sex, but there the girls are drawn individually with assets on each screen, so you simply add a small drawing of the pubes, or the piercings, or the collar. Not possible (at least not as easily) in 3D rendered games.

 

[Bearded_NoPants]

Oh no, the girls should definitely have access to phones. I can only imagine the fun of when one of our more voyeuristic students gets into conflict with someone else. She's been filming her playing around with some of the other girls and tries to take it to the headmaster to get her in trouble. In doing so, the headmaster notices all the other photos and videos of classmates on her phone and now has leverage over all three girls.

Now the adjustment to the dress code first banning underwear and then pubic hair are just a few of the ones I'm looking forward to. I could see offering an option to the latter where it either makes makes shaving mandatory or bans it to better appeal to more players, but the resulting increase in art assets might be rather prohibitive.

Unfortunately this. Otherwise I like options like this. You have them e. g. in Love & Sex, but there the girls are drawn individually with assets on each screen, so you simply add a small drawing of the pubes, or the piercings, or the collar. Not possible (at least not as easily) in 3D rendered games.

Oh right I also meant to mention that the majority actually wanted a mix of shaved and pubes for variety sake.

 

[TheDevian]

Unfortunately this. Otherwise I like options like this. You have them e. g. in Love & Sex, but there the girls are drawn individually with assets on each screen, so you simply add a small drawing of the pubes, or the piercings, or the collar. Not possible (at least not as easily) in 3D rendered games.

That is the challenge with full renders as opposed to sprites, though the sprites usually look like they are not really in the scene, so there is give and take. It is much easier with 2D.

 

[sf_dom]

Oh right I also meant to mention that the majority actually wanted a mix of shaved and pubes for variety sake.

Now that's surprising. I wouldn't have thought that many people would like both. Usually it's one or the other.

In my personal life, having a stray hair is one of the easiest ways for a girl to find herself put on denial. The standard is until the day after she passes inspection with an extra day added for each time such a punishment has been necessary.

I like that voyeur idea. Also the biting it her in the ass and we as the HM getting more goodies...

The voyeur angle also opens things up to other options during punishment, such as watching the HM playing with Sally or even another student to increase arousal. Maybe a scene where she's bound and only able to watch despite wanting to touch herself as she gets more and more aroused.

 

[TheDevian]

Now that's surprising. I wouldn't have thought that many people would like both. Usually it's one or the other.

In my personal life, having a stray hair is one of the easiest ways for a girl to find herself put on denial. The standard is until the day after she passes inspection with an extra day added for each time such a punishment has been necessary.

I like variety. lol

 

[Bearded_NoPants]

Now that's surprising. I wouldn't have thought that many people would like both. Usually it's one or the other.

In my personal life, having a stray hair is one of the easiest ways for a girl to find herself put on denial. The standard is until the day after she passes inspection with an extra day added for each time such a punishment has been necessary.

The voyeur angle also opens things up to other options during punishment, such as watching the HM playing with Sally or even another student to increase arousal. Maybe a scene where she's bound and only able to watch despite wanting to touch herself as she gets more and more aroused.

This game has a variety of fans with different races, ages and cultural background so when the poll was held months ago. It reflected that. Personally the only thing I DON'T like about pubes is an unmanaged jungle I like shaved and some fur.

See we discussed that already It's a big favorite on the thread to add an audience both in the office and outside the office. I think the idea of denying the student girls watching pleasure is a great idea. I personally LOVED seeing Amy squirm in her chastity belt. If someone could gift a mod to AltosandHerdone for them to use I thing they would be very happy to use it.

I like variety. lol

 

[mordred93]

I like variety. lol

That is why I use my left hand one day and the right the other ...

 

[SharkVampire]

Yeah, I did make clear previously that no other male characters would be touching the girls. That's a whole big minefield I don't particularly want to step into. Other males watching is fine though and that has been happening from the beginning of the game with the camera in the headmasters office. I do plan to have some scenes with other males witnessing punishments/nudity more directly and this was agreed to by my patrons in a recent poll (as long as it wasn't too often and it was relevant to the story).

So all this scenes with horny male teachers was just for nothing? For some kind of voyeur fetish, or something like that?

I know this discussion about NTR theme already closed, but I just haven't followed this topic for a while, and then I bumped into your message. When I played your game, I had strong feeling that, we as Headmaster, in this "special" school, making some sort of sex servants of this girls, but turns out it was wrong, and The Headmaster it's just another harem builder, am I'm wrong?

Not that it was my main goal, but I just thought that this game will be different from others, those typical same going games. I don't know if it was original author's idea to just make a show for people, or he was forced to stop on this stage because of his patrons, but it disappointed me.

P.S.
To clarify things, I don't care if characters which not in any of relationship with MC get laid with others. It also doesn't make sense in this story, he is their Headmaster! Not some student in their school. It's only possible, if they venture will be a secret, and still it will look more like a sex adventure, than normal relationship. I never self insert myself in skin of character which I play, me - it's me, I'm sitting here in front of the monitor, with cup of tea in hand, and picking various choices for my character, some of which I would never do IRL. And this is the whole point of my thinking, to do in game things, that you don't do in real life. That's why I so like to play for villain characters (and also because good characters has long been a cliche, so they are plain and boring, and usually poorly written).
I really enjoying theme of corruption in adult games, but they usually stop on tracks at some point and you can't turn cute excellent student girl into total whore, who will fuck with anyone, because it will hurt someones feelings...
I'm not into humiliation of the MC, which is strong point of NTR genre, I don't want my character to be treated like trash, I making story for him, and I don't find pleasant to play for spineless. All sex in game with any of characters involving MC or not is observing for me. I only decide do I like how story progress if this character will have sex or not. I also wont mind if MC join the fun in some group action, if there is an option. To put an example, if thing take place in this game, i would allow some teachers to fuck the girls, because it's story approved and sexy (for me) to corrupt them even more and maybe even join them, at some point, to spice things up and watch double penetration scene.

And for those who will try give me advice to just watch porn: I'm here for the story, mostly, and gameplay, not for just meaningless sex.

Anyway, I continue looking for you game, cuz it's still unique among others, and I like your writing and characters, but as i said, this game gave me wrong impression and I was left somewhat disappointed because of it.

 

[yuserneim]

That is why I use my left hand one day and the right the other ...

You mean for writing, right? I'm a lefty here. I can't use my right hand for a lot of things other than moving a mouse.

 

[mordred93]

You mean for writing, right? I'm a lefty here. I can't use my right hand for a lot of things other than moving a mouse.

Umm ... Sure Father Benedict ... That's what I meant

 

[yuserneim]

Umm ... Sure Father Benedict ... That's what I meant

Damn it, my true identity has been revealed. Eeer, I gotta go... not to Vatican City... not at all.
*quietly whistles and goes away*

 

[F22232425]

So all this scenes with horny male teachers was just for nothing? For some kind of voyeur fetish, or something like that?

I know this discussion about NTR theme already closed, but I just haven't followed this topic for a while, and then I bumped into your message. When I played your game, I had strong feeling that, we as Headmaster, in this "special" school, making some sort of sex servants of this girls, but turns out it was wrong, and The Headmaster it's just another harem builder, am I'm wrong?

Not that it was my main goal, but I just thought that this game will be different from others, those typical same going games. I don't know if it was original author's idea to just make a show for people, or he was forced to stop on this stage because of his patrons, but it disappointed me.

Did you mean male students on the poll?
About the NTR theme here, I think it is quite a dilemma decision whether to involve other male characters beside the MC because I've seen players expressing their opinions not to share the love interests with others in the game while others think more characters means more competitions which add more dynamics to the game and therefore the NTR theme (like taking someone's girlfirend from the character you hate)

However, kindly note that it also requires more time to build up more male characters for the NTR theme, and I originally think that if I were to develop a game this, should I include male students too to create gangs and different factions and to make this "special" school a mess for the headmaster to "fix" it, but then it's really consuming when you have so many girls available and you almost need to create the same or even double number of the male characters for realistic sake!

Oh no, the girls should definitely have access to phones. I can only imagine the fun of when one of our more voyeuristic students gets into conflict with someone else. She's been filming her playing around with some of the other girls and tries to take it to the headmaster to get her in trouble. In doing so, the headmaster notices all the other photos and videos of classmates on her phone and now has leverage over all three girls.

Now the adjustment to the dress code first banning underwear and then pubic hair are just a few of the ones I'm looking forward to. I could see offering an option to the latter where it either makes makes shaving mandatory or bans it to better appeal to more players, but the resulting increase in art assets might be rather prohibitive.

If the headmaster's intention is to build up a strict school, I think at some point, he should enforce to restrict girls' access to phones to add more chances for the "punishment".

About hte dress code, there was a hint that during the HM's dream in the game, Sarah was encouraged to not wearing underwear after she had been punished so many times and underwear had become a burden to wear.

So I guess there's possibility of banning underwear, but the headmaster really need to justify it to pass at the boarding conference if it is to be made as a pulibc rule rather than being applied to individuals privately.

 

[yuserneim]

So I guess there's possibility of banning underwear

I can't say it is completely ruled out, but I don't see it happening. First there's already a narrative that girls are allowed to go commando if they want to, and banning underwear would make the ones doing it (not wearing underwear) less special. Debbie and Liz come to mind. More importantly, there's value on an embarrassed girl forced to reveal her underwear. One would think forcing the same girl to expose her naughty bits would be even more embarrassing, but it turns out that's not always the case, go figure!

 

[SharkVampire]

Did you mean male students on the poll?

No, story explains clearly, that this school was build only for girls to entertain some rich bastards. But nothing said about teachers. And in the scene where headmaster was showing his methods for teachers from another school, we've seen reaction of both male and female teacher. I thought it set up for future actions involving this characters, or maybe even sponsors, but turns out it's just teasing

while others think more characters means more competitions which add more dynamics to the game and therefore the NTR theme.
However, kindly note that it also requires more time to build up more male characters for the NTR theme, and I originally think that if I were to develop a game this, should I include male students too to create gangs and different factions and to make this "special" school a mess for the headmaster to "fix" it, but then it's really consuming when you have so many girls available and you almost need to create the same or even double number of the male characters for realistic sake!

Nobody said development is easy task, but we already can witness that many of the game developers choosing easy ways for their stories. So they mostly looks and plays the same. At the other hand, there is developers who build magnificent plans in their heads and when they try to implement all this, they crash on the ground. So it's more about managing resources, and setting achievable tasks. In current game, there is no need to add another dozens of characters, IMO. It's better to make small world with few characters, but full of events, than big empty world. After that, if they succeed, they can make bigger game. But it just my thoughts how would I try to make a game. Altos & Herdone doing well so far, except some minor flaws, and you can't say this game small or big, it's more like medium size. So it's also depends of developers person.

 

[Shadow2007]

Dude If you want to know what the future holds or what to see out gush and fan fix I HIGHLY suggest reading the WHOLE thread... well at least the last six months I dont know about before.

I will look into it thanks for the heads up

 

[Shadow2007]

I just completed your wonderful game and so look forward to its future development, thing is I have a few Ideas and would like to know how to get it to the developers of the game to look at?

 

[Boogie]

I just completed your wonderful game and so look forward to its future development, thing is I have a few Ideas and would like to know how to get it to the developers of the game to look at?

You can post it here, the developers are here regularly. Or even better, you can join their Patreon and let them know what you like.

 

[Bearded_NoPants]

I will look into it thanks for the heads up

No worries just don't get a rash

I just completed your wonderful game and so look forward to its future development, thing is I have a few Ideas and would like to know how to get it to the developers of the game to look at?

If you want to get their attention just copy paste their name from a post they made and they'll see it Look for AltosandHerdone. It will look like this if you do it right. AltosandHerdone

You can post it here, the developers are here regularly. Or even better, you can join their Patreon and let them know what you like.

Damn I just saw you bear me to it.

 

[Bearded_NoPants]

Did you mean male students on the poll?
About the NTR theme here, I think it is quite a dilemma decision whether to involve other male characters beside the MC because I've seen players expressing their opinions not to share the love interests with others in the game while others think more characters means more competitions which add more dynamics to the game and therefore the NTR theme (like taking someone's girlfirend from the character you hate)

However, kindly note that it also requires more time to build up more male characters for the NTR theme, and I originally think that if I were to develop a game this, should I include male students too to create gangs and different factions and to make this "special" school a mess for the headmaster to "fix" it, but then it's really consuming when you have so many girls available and you almost need to create the same or even double number of the male characters for realistic sake!

If the headmaster's intention is to build up a strict school, I think at some point, he should enforce to restrict girls' access to phones to add more chances for the "punishment".

About hte dress code, there was a hint that during the HM's dream in the game, Sarah was encouraged to not wearing underwear after she had been punished so many times and underwear had become a burden to wear.

So I guess there's possibility of banning underwear, but the headmaster really need to justify it to pass at the boarding conference if it is to be made as a pulibc rule rather than being applied to individuals privately.

*pushes NTR topic away from him with ten foot pole*

I think leaving then their phone's is a better idea as it will allow the HM to punish them for things they do with them, IE Maxine. I like the idea of the underwear being banned I just think there has to be a logical reason for it. "it's a burden" is not a good enough reason. We may have Ruth under our thumb now but who know what A&H have in mind.

I can't say it is completely ruled out, but I don't see it happening. First there's already a narrative that girls are allowed to go commando if they want to, and banning underwear would make the ones doing it (not wearing underwear) less special. Debbie and Liz come to mind. More importantly, there's value on an embarrassed girl forced to reveal her underwear. One would think forcing the same girl to expose her naughty bits would be even more embarrassing, but it turns out that's not always the case, go figure!

Agreed. Such a rule would be redundant. especially if the rules I've been advocating for are added to the game. First "It is up to the students to decide if they want to wear their street clothing or school uniforms during school hours, If the students don't want to wear school issues clothing during school hours they don't have to" then later when Ruth is pissed and wants the rule changed... The HM agrees but gets Ruth to agree that no matter what their will be no more rules changing or additions in the future. Then the HM ADDS the rule stating "Only school issues clothing is allowed to be worn during school hours. No other clothing is permitted." When the more adventures students realize it's not a rule change but an addition Ruth will explode.

I can't stop advocating for this addition the the game enough

No, story explains clearly, that this school was build only for girls to entertain some rich bastards. But nothing said about teachers. And in the scene where headmaster was showing his methods for teachers from another school, we've seen reaction of both male and female teacher. I thought it set up for future actions involving this characters, or maybe even sponsors, but turns out it's just teasing

Nobody said development is easy task, but we already can witness that many of the game developers choosing easy ways for their stories. So they mostly looks and plays the same. At the other hand, there is developers who build magnificent plans in their heads and when they try to implement all this, they crash on the ground. So it's more about managing resources, and setting achievable tasks. In current game, there is no need to add another dozens of characters, IMO. It's better to make small world with few characters, but full of events, than big empty world. After that, if they succeed, they can make bigger game. But it just my thoughts how would I try to make a game. Altos & Herdone doing well so far, except some minor flaws, and you can't say this game small or big, it's more like medium size. So it's also depends of developers person.

Yes the end of the first chapter was just a cock tease but I don't think A&H will just let that loss end dangle.

Flaws FLAWS!?!?! lol, dude A&H are doing great for a Dev that not a triple A. And despite them not being Triple A they still keep up with thick update, Patreon commitments, A healthy public, media, PR and online presence, They interact with fans even when their NOT supporting them financially. And this is all the while their developing the story, debugging programing and working on renders. I was recently put in my place when someone showed me how difficult it is to get it right. you got character proportions, texture folds, crimps, ripples and rips, shading, LIGHTING (OH GOD LIGHTING IS A NIGHTMARE!), ya got clipping and collision issues. Not to mention making sure nothing is floating. Look I'm not really directing this at you it's just some people don't understand the work that's been put into this game. (it's why I hate updatards)