Ren'Py The Headmaster [v0.16.3] [Altos and Herdone]

[Havik79]

Planning, writing, coding, rendering, character creation, just a few of the things off the top of my head Altos would need to make this game.

Literal children do youtube toy reviews, probably reactions to I assume, because those 2 things require absolutely ZERO fucking talent that any idiot or even child can do.

 

[Living In A Lewd World]

It is a dystopian setting, because the world had fallen to a point where kids who don't do well in school, can have their rights taken away, and effectively turned into slaves.

I mean, since 'happy' is relative, one 'happy' ending could be the girls losing their rights and having to be his servants. Another is that he is successful, and they all work for him in various ways, like some work in the school as helpers, teachers, and so on, others work in his house, cleaning, cooking, and what not, and so on... But I guess someone might consider it 'happy' if the girls all pass and the HM and the people backing him go to jail, so who knows?

I would totally agree, that "The headmaster" heavily plays with ideas of "Autoritarism". And I admit, that this could be seen very critical. But it lacks something that determines a dystopian story like Orwells "1984" or Kafkas "The Process" in my understanding quite a lot, and that is the characters permanently struggling with the system in which they live and more important: the hopelessness of that struggle. That's neither for the headmaster nor for the students the case (Ruth and Mr. Wilson are maybe the only exceptions , but they are not in the focus). I thought a little, whether there are lewd games, that fulfill those criterias, and I would put rather games like “Caseys fall” and “Fashion business” in a dystopian lewd games category.

By what the game is now and in the logic of the game, the headmaster is rather a pervert antihero, who "helps" the girls with his punishment-measures to graduate from school and develop their own strengths, and might finally maybe even start a fight against Mycocks System, which he is by now only blurred aware of (as far, as I remember). The students (after some struggle) adapt to the system of the headmaster and even draw advantages from it, what makes the overall tone of the game, despite the dark setting, rather positive.

I personally would define a "happy ending" in the logic, the game represents by now. I would see it as an ending, where you graduate the girls and the later life of the girls going a way you would like for someone you have "trained" (whatever this is (harem, professional success, etc.)). In an exaggerated way, the MC could even get a price for his life-work by the secretary of education, who just does, whatever is popular in the public. Of course everything in the lewd logic of the game. If this would be done in real world, the actions of the headmaster would be totally to condemn.

To have the girls stripped from their rights completely in the end would be hard to make plausible, as you train them even to be more self-confident (and at least for me not enjoying). If they come to your harem, it would be rather on their own will.

I would find the last ending actually also quite funny to watch and thought about if such an ending was possible and plausible to explain, if popularity drops to zero, because then the events of the school might drop to the public. Some weirded-voice in my head tells me, that in this case even Mr. Wilson might overtake the school as the new headmaster, being far more popular then the MC.

 

[TheDevian]

I would totally agree, that "The headmaster" heavily plays with ideas of "Autoritarism". And I admit, that this could be seen very critical. But it lacks something that determines a dystopian story like Orwells "1984" or Kafkas "The Process" in my understanding quite a lot, and that is the characters permanently struggling with the system in which they live and more important: the hopelessness of that struggle. That's neither for the headmaster nor for the students the case (Ruth and Mr. Wilson are maybe the only exceptions , but they are not in the focus). I thought a little, whether there are lewd games, that fulfill those criterias, and I would put rather games like “Caseys fall” and “Fashion business” in a dystopian lewd games category.

By what the game is now and in the logic of the game, the headmaster is rather a pervert antihero, who "helps" the girls with his punishment-measures to graduate from school and develop their own strengths, and might finally maybe even start a fight against Mycocks System, which he is by now only blurred aware of (as far, as I remember). The students (after some struggle) adapt to the system of the headmaster and even draw advantages from it, what makes the overall tone of the game, despite the dark setting, rather positive.

I personally would define a "happy ending" in the logic, the game represents by now. I would see it as an ending, where you graduate the girls and the later life of the girls going a way you would like for someone you have "trained" (whatever this is (harem, professional success, etc.)). In an exaggerated way, the MC could even get a price for his life-work by the secretary of education, who just does, whatever is popular in the public. Of course everything in the lewd logic of the game. If this would be done in real world, the actions of the headmaster would be totally to condemn.

To have the girls stripped from their rights completely in the end would be hard to make plausible, as you train them even to be more self-confident (and at least for me not enjoying). If they come to your harem, it would be rather on their own will.

I would find the last ending actually also quite funny to watch and thought about if such an ending was possible and plausible to explain, if popularity drops to zero, because then the events of the school might drop to the public. Some weirded-voice in my head tells me, that in this case even Mr. Wilson might overtake the school as the new headmaster, being far more popular then the MC.

I don't really disagree, though they do toy with that concept, and the dystopian part of the world has really just begun, this is the first generation to be forced into these programs. I might have exaggerated, but it's clearly going that way. Have to see how it goes as the story progress and we get more information from the outside world.

While the game itself is not a dystopian setting, the rest of the world is certainly going that way, very Orwellian. I mean, if these girls don't pass these classes, they will effectively turned into slaves, as they will not be allowed basic human rights.

Obviously, we will not let that happen to them, since if they fail, we do too, but that doesn't change the overall setting.

True, it could be if there is a bad ending. Not sure how many endings are planned here, but it will be interesting to see what they have planned. XD

 

[Havik79]

Well if you let grades go to zero you get the game over, so technically that is a bad ending, besides good endings are better.

Now which do you want more, all the girls fail, and you send them off to military school, or end screen with you sitting on your big comfy chair, using Donna as a footstool, Lucy your ever doating waifu sitting on your lap, Rachel a cum filled mess on the floor, Debbie with a whip on her shoulder making Donna lick her feet while Sally supervises.

 

[LucT]

Most students don't get to the college, don't think about the real world, think about this world, i don't remember exactly what we know, i don't think they can all end up in the military school, suppose the method really works and it's the only , suppose the alternative is to become drug addicts, thieves, drug dealers etc. , better one year in this school with this method or better the alternative?

 

[Cartageno]

Most students don't get to the college, don't think about the real world, think about this world, i don't remember exactly what we know, i don't think they can all end up in the military school, suppose the method really works and it's the only , suppose the alternative is to become drug addicts, thieves, drug dealers etc. , better one year in this school with this method or better the alternative?

That are some strong assumptions though, a classic false dilemma. A bit like "yeah, child labor is bad but otherwise they will have to prostitute themselves."

 

[Cartageno]

Planning, writing, coding, rendering, character creation, just a few of the things off the top of my head Altos would need to make this game.

Literal children do youtube toy reviews, probably reactions to I assume, because those 2 things require absolutely ZERO fucking talent that any idiot or even child can do.

(I don't know MxR and haven't seen the video yet, just a general observation)

Making content that people care about actually does require some talent. Yes, react videos are done easily but doing a "react video" which people enjoy, watch till the end, and then come back for more might not be as straightforward. Similarily you could say that writing doesn't take talent (every kid can do it and almost every kid starts a story which may last two pages). Everybody can create characters in a game, the art is making people care about these characters. Of course that is heavily individual and I dislike a lot of content everywhere but if you or me were going to make videos playing games or showing mods, odds are we'd be getting 7 subscribers between us.

 

[Havik79]

I suppose next you're going to tell me that twitch thots, the female version of review/reaction videos, also need talent, both only skills needed is to use a pc and sit in front of a camera and talk.

Making a game like this, one which is successful requires actual talent, anyone can make a video and have it be successful, more so when you feature a chick in it, not many people can make a good game and a life from it.

 

[apostatefarm]

I suppose next you're going to tell me that twitch thots, the female version of review/reaction videos, also need talent, both only skills needed is to use a pc and sit in front of a camera and talk.

Making a game like this, one which is successful requires actual talent, anyone can make a video and have it be successful, more so when you feature a chick in it, not many people can make a good game and a life from it.

Successfully exploiting parasocial relationships to milk idiots of their money on twitch is absolutely a talent and skill that takes work to succeed at. Anyone can theoretically do so but only certain people can manage the mix of looks, charisma, and personality to really be successful at such a thing. It's never just 'because a chicks in it'

 

[Cartageno]

I suppose next you're going to tell me that twitch thots, the female version of review/reaction videos, also need talent, both only skills needed is to use a pc and sit in front of a camera and talk.

Making a game like this, one which is successful requires actual talent, anyone can make a video and have it be successful, more so when you feature a chick in it, not many people can make a good game and a life from it.

What's good and what's not depends on the viewer. We would probably even have similar opinions on what we like and do not like. And as you, I regard the act of creating a game, or a story, or a movie, higher than a reaction video, or any influencer stuff, or what else is somewhat popular.

But "anyone can make a video and have it be successful" is just simply wrong. There are gazillions of videos with 317 views. I couldn't make one (otherwise I might do or become a producer and let others do the work). You couldn't make one I would guess. Yes, some stuff is catering to a young male audience and the major talents needed are a girl's boobs, but even those are plentyful and many are not successful.

 

[c3p0]

Yes, some stuff is catering to a young male audience and the major talents needed are a girl's boobs, but even those are plentyful and many are not successful.

Also if this would be the only requirement this videos are quite boring. It exist "better" site than youtube who serve this need.
So, sure a nice pair of boobs have isn't bad, but don't make a bad video good.

 

[Cartageno]

Also if this would be the only requirement this videos are quite boring. It exist "better" site than youtube who serve this need.
So, sure a pair of nice boobs have isn't bad, but don't make a bad video good.

Which goes for some of the games on here as well but I guess you may have a more "I am merely a young man interested in music" if you lewd after some music reviewer than outright watching porn? Just a guess though.

 

[Havik79]

Well either way I am done, none of you is going to change my mind that sitting on your ass and talking requires talent, and I am not going to change your minds, as far as I am concerned this is over, especially when twitch thots do not prove talent, but prove just how fucking sad some of us men have become.

Now to more important things, we do we get to let Debbie spank Amy.

 

[Karnewarrior]

Sounds like someone failed at their Twitch Thot career.

Speaking as someone who's both made Youtube videos before and made videogames (neither of them very good and many of them unreleased, which only proves the point that both are hard), you're severely underestimating the talent required. MxR doesn't pull views by just sitting in a chair and looking at memes, the way you're saying they do. Anyone could do that, and they'd get like 13 views, and it'd be the most boring video in the world.

Like Let's Players, Henry and Jeannie are prop comedians, and their draw comes from their comedy. Nobody watches MxR to see memes, if they wanted that they could go to Reddit and get way more of the content they want. They come for the relationship dynamic between the two co-hosts and they come for the humor both of them inject in their own way. Making a video like MxRs is like preparing a stand-up act, and for every 30 minute "let's force my girlfriend to sit through a light BDSM porn game for laughs" video is 3 hours of writing, 2 hours of recording, and 10 hours of editing. It's mentally taxing to make up jokes on the fly that land regularly, and it's mentally taxing to keep up a commentary for 2 or 3 hours while playing a game. You don't realize that if you've not tried to do it - but as an aside, this is also why Let's Players also tend to be garbage at the games they're playing. They're busy being comedians and can't spare the neurons required to make big-brain MLG plays. They're two different skills.

Twitch Thottery is the same way; on top of being wildly overstated (a new user joining twitch will rarely see thots on the main page, 95% of the recommendeds are male in fact), it also requires a set of skills, this time those of a gravure model. I'm sorry you and I are too ugly to do it, but it doesn't mean we need to reject that it's a talent. Once again you only wind up seeing the hot tub stream that the clippers take out of context, you don't see the required social maneuver to make everyone feel seen and heard on a personal level, the artistic talent necessary to get their makeup good enough to draw a successful crowd, the behind-the-scenes business dealings and contracting required for those weird fashion sponsorships. None of that shit is interesting, so it's not bandied about, but it comprises the majority of the job. This is a capitalistic environment we're working with here; if they weren't providing a product of value to someone, nobody would be buying their product. And at least the Twitch Thots and Youtubers aren't lying about what they're selling. They're selling themselves.

 

[tuShua]

guys, how do you find sally's key?

 

[tuShua]

(I don't know MxR and haven't seen the video yet, just a general observation)

Making content that people care about actually does require some talent. Yes, react videos are done easily but doing a "react video" which people enjoy, watch till the end, and then come back for more might not be as straightforward. Similarily you could say that writing doesn't take talent (every kid can do it and almost every kid starts a story which may last two pages). Everybody can create characters in a game, the art is making people care about these characters. Of course that is heavily individual and I dislike a lot of content everywhere but if you or me were going to make videos playing games or showing mods, odds are we'd be getting 7 subscribers between us.

That guy has never seen MxR mods. those 2014 MxR mods weekly were hilarious lmao

 

[tuShua]

Well either way I am done, none of you is going to change my mind that sitting on your ass and talking requires talent, and I am not going to change your minds, as far as I am concerned this is over, especially when twitch thots do not prove talent, but prove just how fucking sad some of us men have become.

Now to more important things, we do we get to let Debbie spank Amy.

brother, listen here, man. I don't really get what the problem is, but the more you explain the more you sound jealous. This issue has been going over and over ever since 2017. Just let people do what they love doing and let them enjoy it. You live your own life and they do theirs. Let's just separate it at that, ayt? Our time living in this world is limited. Go do what you love and be happy, and let others do what they want to do. Once you've spent your time here on earth u aint getting it back. Unless u reincarnate of course

 

[TheDevian]

As far as videos go, I have had some where I put months of work into, almost won awards with, and still can't get more than a few thousand hits, and others I threw together in a few hours that have millions, you just never know... And how much skill and work that goes into it, matters almost not at all.

While his mod vids are funny, I just don't get why it matters what job is harder, what takes more talent, or whatever. It takes more skill to do a lot of thankless jobs, where you get no credit at all too. Has really no barring on the discussion. Not sure why it matters at all.

Well if you let grades go to zero you get the game over, so technically that is a bad ending, besides good endings are better.

Now which do you want more, all the girls fail, and you send them off to military school, or end screen with you sitting on your big comfy chair, using Donna as a footstool, Lucy your ever doating waifu sitting on your lap, Rachel a cum filled mess on the floor, Debbie with a whip on her shoulder making Donna lick her feet while Sally supervises.

Well, that depends, are we talking me and my personal desires, or the HM and what he wants?

He wants all the girls to do well, if nothing else, just to prove that his methods work. As for me, I would not lose any sleep if a couple of them did flunk out and get sold into slavery or whatever it is they plan to do with them.

That said, there is no military school for them, they might be given to the military, for at best basic training, or at worst as a toy/Guinea pig, but not to get a nice career. Military school is a normal school for brats whose parents don't want to deal with them, so they learn discipline, it is also training to be officers, this is not something they will do for these girls, they will not be trained to have power, they will be grunts, test subjects, slaves, cannon fodder, and worse.

Military school makes it sound like they will be given another chance after this (albeit a hard one), but no, this is their last chance. If they fail here, their lives are effectively over.

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I couldn't care less about Donna or Cass, I honestly don't even like then enough to want to abuse them.
And I will be honest with you, sex with Rachel, is one of the last things I want to see. Kind of a turn off (again, no offence intended to those who like her, it's just not for me).

IDK, as fun as some of that would be though, I am not that complicated, some nice scenes with Liz (or Lucy, or even some of the others, not too picky) getting off on being seen would get me far more excited. lol

I guess my inner-sadist is taking the week off, IDk...

 

[Xantoser]

For me, events like nudity beach or other events with explicit nudity at this point would break game pacing and chronology.

I always assumed that punishment system and school rules are the backbone of this game. I also assumed, when the rule to strip naked during punishment finally come to pass, it will be a huge milestone (like a ability to punish girls by MC) because of embarrassment of this situation. If games introduce events with explicit nudity earlier then this rule will no longer have so strong impact when it finaly occurs. IMO this would be very serious plot breaker.

 

[Maxjohnson]

anyone know when the next update will be, I randomly found this game bindged it in a day and want more. also how substantial are the update's id hate for it to be slowly draging out miniscule content/bugfixes over mounths waiting.