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But is there really new content or not? Because it pretty much sounds like just repeating the patch notes of 16.1 and 16.3 (wich are exactly the same) and not the changes from 16.3 to 16.4.

I dont want to make the same mistake twice of downloading the whole game for just a few bug fixes
 

TheDevian

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But is there really new content or not? Because it pretty much sounds like just repeating the patch notes of 16.1 and 16.3 (wich are exactly the same) and not the changes from 16.3 to 16.4.

I dont want to make the same mistake twice of downloading the whole game for just a few bug fixes
It's not a new version number (16), so there is no new content. :WeSmart:
 
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ccxvidonaferens

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But is there really new content or not? Because it pretty much sounds like just repeating the patch notes of 16.1 and 16.3 (wich are exactly the same) and not the changes from 16.3 to 16.4.

I dont want to make the same mistake twice of downloading the whole game for just a few bug fixes
1 more discipline scene with Liz, 2 more events involving 'Celebrity Love Archipelago' and about four or five cafeteria events and thats about it. It is a small incremental update. For this title it's useful to remember the following rule of thumb. If the version number has gone up by a whole digit (ie from 0.15 to 0.16) than it is a major update with a reasonable amount of content. If the version number goes up by a decimal (ie 0.16.1 to 0.16.2) then it is primarily bugfixing with maybe one or two new additions that just weren't quite ready to make it into the main release.
 
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But is there really new content or not? Because it pretty much sounds like just repeating the patch notes of 16.1 and 16.3 (wich are exactly the same) and not the changes from 16.3 to 16.4
There are a handful of small events that were not quite ready for the initial 0.16 release but nothing major. If you're not into small releases I'd just wait for 0.17
 

thermel949

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I tried the version from Itch, as well as the compressed version someone posted earlier - I cant progress because I get an error message when I talk to Ruth. Error message tells me ruth_humil not defined. Cant proceed with most of my quests now because of this. Well it was fun while it lasted.
 

Xantoser

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Each time I play the game, it always kills me how serious MC is when discussing the fact that he has to have sex with schoolgirls in order to teach them disciple.
IMO he starts acting like a creep. It would be far more normal and believable if he simply admitted that he had his own portion of fun and he is killing two birds with one stone.
 

Chucke1992

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IMO he starts acting like a creep. It would be far more normal and believable if he simply admitted that he had his own portion of fun and he is killing two birds with one stone.
Except he does not feel like a creep - because he sincerely believes in what he is doing. It is not like his a lecher or anything. He literally believes his own methodology and it makes it hilarious.
 

PBS666

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Except he does not feel like a creep - because he sincerely believes in what he is doing. It is not like his a lecher or anything. He literally believes his own methodology and it makes it hilarious.
Does he really ? He is just trying to deceive himself IMO. Deep inside he knows that what he's doing is wrong, hence the nightmares.
I agree that it's hilarious, because it's so OTT.
 

Gegecucu

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I tried the version from Itch, as well as the compressed version someone posted earlier - I cant progress because I get an error message when I talk to Ruth. Error message tells me ruth_humil not defined. Cant proceed with most of my quests now because of this. Well it was fun while it lasted.
Did you try to ignore the error?

If it doesn't work, try entering "ruth_humil = villain" in the console
 

thermel949

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Did you try to ignore the error?

If it doesn't work, try entering "ruth_humil = villain" in the console
When I ignore her it ends with me telling her have a nice day. Whatever info I was supposed to get from her to progress isnt happening.
I am not sure what you mean by enter into the console unfortunately. Is it a Renpy script thing?
 

Gegecucu

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When I ignore her it ends with me telling her have a nice day. Whatever info I was supposed to get from her to progress isnt happening.
I am not sure what you mean by enter into the console unfortunately. Is it a Renpy script thing?
Press "Shift+O" in-game before you get the error and paste (or re-type) the command
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ruth_humil = villain
 

Xantoser

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Except he does not feel like a creep - because he sincerely believes in what he is doing.
Every creep thinks they’re not a creep. Have you ever seen a creep say, 'Oh damn, I’m such a creep'?:)

Except that if you notice, it's working. So is he really deceiving anyone? lol
No, he’s not deceiving anyone when he claims that his methods successfully discipline others. It’s his assertion that he doesn’t derive pleasure from it that is highly questionable.:)
 
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Chucke1992

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Every creep thinks they’re not a creep. Have you ever seen a creep say, 'Oh damn, I’m such a creep'?:)
The point is that he is not doing it like regular creeps who just want to touch beautiful girls for sexual satisfaction. He is teaching the disciple, allowing girls to become better versions of themselves.

He is more of a cult leader, rather than a creep.
 

ccxvidonaferens

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IMO he starts acting like a creep. It would be far more normal and believable if he simply admitted that he had his own portion of fun and he is killing two birds with one stone.
Self deception/denial is a thing and I do think it's playing a role in what he believes. I personally have always kind of thought that we were playing as essentially the villain of the story. Or if not the big bad, then as their pawn for their grander schemes. Mainly because I tend to remember the following line from a different game from several years ago which I think tends to have quite the ring of truth to it for many villains in fiction. Maybe in real life too.

. The best villains don't see themselves as evil. They're fighting for a good cause, willing to get their hands dirty.
 

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Self deception/denial is a thing and I do think it's playing a role in what he believes. I personally have always kind of thought that we were playing as essentially the villain of the story. Or if not the big bad, then as their pawn for their grander schemes. Mainly because I tend to remember the following line from a different game from several years ago which I think tends to have quite the ring of truth to it for many villains in fiction. Maybe in real life too.

. The best villains don't see themselves as evil. They're fighting for a good cause, willing to get their hands dirty.
True, though I want to emphasize the point made earlier: IN THE GAME, his methods work. Other methods are strongly implied to have failed. If it looks crazy, but it works, it's not crazy.

Yes, he enjoys the side benefits of his work. That doesn't make him a villain.

In recent updates he does push things more and take advantage of situations more... but we've also seen more evidence that his methods are, overall, helping.

This is, IMO, one of the better parts of the game.
 
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PBS666

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Self deception/denial is a thing and I do think it's playing a role in what he believes. I personally have always kind of thought that we were playing as essentially the villain of the story. Or if not the big bad, then as their pawn for their grander schemes. Mainly because I tend to remember the following line from a different game from several years ago which I think tends to have quite the ring of truth to it for many villains in fiction. Maybe in real life too.

. The best villains don't see themselves as evil. They're fighting for a good cause, willing to get their hands dirty.
The real villains are of course those behind Paul Mycock, because it's them that enable the MC in his delusion that by turning young women into sex slaves, they will become better citizens. For that end his method does indeed work.
 
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