Ren'Py The Headmaster [v0.17.2.2] [Altos and Herdone]

[TheDevian]

I found the Fundraiser event boring and seriously off topic but maybe that's just me.

Not just you, but a lot of us liked it too. It has been one of my favorite events in a long time.

 

[marcomemmey]

Why is Rachel missing from the sequel scene where everyone wears one of the challenge clothes while Ada and Maxine are in punishment clothes? She was also part of the friend group that participated in all days. She could have worn the see through clothes while Liz goes nude, or the other way around.

 

[Virulenz]

I forgot how to handle priti...i remember pushing her on the rebellious route to build her confidence or something, but i dont remember if i should punish her in class, public, private or if its irrelevant.

 

[marcomemmey]

I forgot how to handle priti...i remember pushing her on the rebellious route to build her confidence or something, but i dont remember if i should punish her in class, public, private or if its irrelevant.

Call her through the intercom iirc.

 

[Leobbb]

This game is a great example of how patreon system of supporting devs basically prevents any game from being finished. The slower you work the more money you get. It's understandable though, I don't blame the dev, I blame the system, I would take advantage myself too.
2019 - 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.6
2020 - 0.7, 0.8, 0.9
2021 - 0.10, 0.11
2022 - 0.12, 0.13
2023 - 0.14 (beta)
And not only that, there is less content added every update too. Most work was done in 2019. Yearly updates incoming?

 

[pothb]

I can't say I remember the content amount per update early on. It's been too long. That said, I feel .14 had little content in some terms but I found the update to be a fun playthrough. And it took me roughly 2 hours or so to complete, so I'm not unhappy, personally.

EDIT: I do agree that the patreon system is very much open to that kind of ill will. But I don't think this Dev is even close to the best example of that.

 

[raven54]

This leaked beta version, clearly labelled for bug testing purposes, has bugs?! Oh my goodness, I'd best go kill myself in shame. Also, do you really think a 50k-word screenplay and a thousand renders aren't enough for six months of work?

That's the rule of the internet. You can make a pill, which instantly cures cancer and somebody will complain that it tastes incorrectly or the pill has the wrong color. While feedback shouldn't be ignored, assuming all feedback to be something to obey isn't the way to go. I mean let's say somebody requests demands all renders to be recreated in program/game X because that will make everything so much better. Even if that is true (which it might not be), it completely ignores the workload and as such is completely useless feedback. At least you haven't been told you are a bad person unless you make changes to comply with some completely unrelated real life political views. Yeah I tried that one. Apparently I was being politically biased (aka an evil and mean person) by being declared apolitical.

With regard to what was in the update; I have zero intention of defending content choices here.

Honestly why should you? As artist/writer/content creator/developer (or whatever you want to call it), it's your artistic freedom to make decisions like that. All you have to say is "that's what I wanted to work on this time" and that in itself is a valid reason for your choices. Besides arguing is pointless as it won't change what is in this release anyway.

For people getting upset with.. well not the content added, but the unfinished storylines still being unfinished, all I will say is that this isn't the final version. I don't know why, but it seems there will always be somebody, who fail to catch that the newest release of a long line of releases will not be the last. Releases don't have to be perfect and cover everything when more releases are planned.

 

[ccxvidonaferens]

This Sunday morning armchair quarterbacking really irritates me. Not just here but for other titles on this site too. The way I see it is this, 'if the pace of progress is not to your liking and you think you can do better then put up, shut up and prove it by doing your own project'. I do not subscribe to this title on Patreon due to financial constraints at the moment though I would consider doing so in the future should my circumstances change. I have not downloaded the current beta as I would prefer to wait till the public release and I am not experienced in any way with game developement but looking at the changelog for this update there seems to have been a large number of behind the scenes code changes that I guess would have taken quite a lot of work to get right without completely breaking the game and that would not have necessarily the same impact as brand new story content. I know there are some bugs but that is unsurprising given the, I assume, small size of the development team and the limited amount of playtesting they could do in the time available. I mean look at the buggy mess Bethesda Games tend to release in and they have vast, almost unlimited, resources in comparison to this developer I guess. Hell, over 10 years since release and multiple ports later Skyrim still has some bugs that were there from launch.

Now I know some people here will immediately get angry and start shouting me down and feel welcome. This has just been bubbling in the back of my head for a while after being present on a number of these forums and just needed to get it off my chest. If anyone is overly offended then I apologise, though I implore you to see beyond the words used to the underlying hope that people can just be polite on here without any anger or sense of entitlement to what is ultimately a leaked incomplete product'

 

[raven54]

This game is a great example of how patreon system of supporting devs basically prevents any game from being finished. The slower you work the more money you get. It's understandable though, I don't blame the dev, I blame the system, I would take advantage myself too.
2019 - 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.6
2020 - 0.7, 0.8, 0.9
2021 - 0.10, 0.11
2022 - 0.12, 0.13
2023 - 0.14 (beta)
And not only that, there is less content added every update too. Most work was done in 2019. Yearly updates incoming?

While you do have a point in endless projects, you also have flawed logic. You assume equal amount of work with each release. The thing is, each release has bugfixes in past content and with each release, past content increases. On top of that, newer renders are of higher quality and a bunch of old renders have been replaced to match the newer renders in quality. For instance Lucy dancing will no longer show her pigtail clipping through her torso. Also videos are added where still frames were used before. All this obviously takes time to add without providing "new" contents, yet it improves the overall impression.

On top of that you assume each release will have the same amount of new text. You can't make that assumption. Most likely the amount of render and text increases in each release have increased as the number of releases per year goes down. I will also argue that adding more text now could be a slower process as the world building is pretty much set and as such writing new personality building storylines have a higher risk of clashing with previously written text. This means more details to cross check.

 

[sidder1000]

Can someone help me with working out this bug, it keeps showing up whenever I speak to Miss Chang. for the life of me I cant figure it out

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I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
Exception: Sayer b'sc' is not a function or string.

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Edit: Nevermind I just had to skip through all her text lines. It seems to be all of her old text tho

 

[Goatface]

@AltosandHerdone I'm getting an invalid syntax error (Student_conversations.rpy, line 1676) when addressing Harriet in the hall on Friday Afternoon. Can't ignore. rollback is possible.

 

[CuteLilNori]

Why is Rachel missing from the sequel scene where everyone wears one of the challenge clothes while Ada and Maxine are in punishment clothes? She was also part of the friend group that participated in all days. She could have worn the see through clothes while Liz goes nude, or the other way around.

As much as Rachel is my #1 favorite, I have to say that I agree with this! However, she's got enough screentime all she needs from the last v.0.13 update, and plus she becomes the first girl out of the other girls to get her storylines completely finished. So I may've got enough satisfaction of getting to see her on focuse (even the wait for v.0.14 to come out takes for too long). At the same time, she also got her jealousy issues cured at the end of her storyline so I think she doesn't mind as the other girls get to have more screentimes with the HM (especially the BJ scene at the end story of fundraiser). So I guess it's about time for the other girls to have some more focused screentime

 

[ChaosDMNS]

This beta is borked.. I'll wait for a proper release...

 

[Gegecucu]

@AltosandHerdone I'm getting an invalid syntax error (Student_conversations.rpy, line 1676) when addressing Harriet in the hall on Friday Afternoon. Can't ignore. rollback is possible.

Please don't ping directly Altos. If you absolutely want to ping someone, please ping me.
Especially since this issue has already been reported:
https://f95zone.to/search/270423313/?q=1676&t=post&c[thread]=23470&o=relevance
(It's Lucy, not Harriet)

This bug will be fixed for the public release.

 

[ChaosDMNS]

I'm not complaining... Just stating facts. I Love this game.. I just was stupid enough to try the beta. I'll go back to the normal version now.

 

[MexPayne]

How do i encourage Lucy to do more while cleaning the flat? Thanks in advance!

Did you figure this out? ...... I have unlocked all lucy stuff - dance, spank, kiss, handjob. What else to do?

 

[Malice2099]

Might be a bug with your save. Try pressing shift o. Then type:
maxine_uw1 = False

That will reset the office event with Maxine and should allow the quest to trigger.
If you have triggered the quest but can't find the patrol event. Press shift and o the type:
mr_donation = 120

Thank you so much for this. Appreciate the fast response. I am a huge fan of this game so I am going to load it up and try this right away.

EDIT: maxine_uw1=False caused the initial Maxine visit to the headmaster office re: School Uniform complaint (the sexy minx scene) to repeat but did not trigger the patrol events for the Mole Rat donations and event.

mr_donation = 120 worked like a charm and caused the event to trigger.

Malice

 

[madchef]

Did you figure this out? ...... I have unlocked all lucy stuff - dance, spank, kiss, handjob. What else to do?

Wait another few years for a glorious update where Lucy is now a 55 year old corpulent charwoman you can grope while she's picking up your dirty underwear from the floor and complains about your poor hygiene standards. Which you can ignore of course, by turning off your hearing aids.

 

[Rokushiki]

anyone have a save from the end of the last version?

 

[AltosandHerdone]

While you do have a point in endless projects, you also have flawed logic. You assume equal amount of work with each release. The thing is, each release has bugfixes in past content and with each release, past content increases. On top of that, newer renders are of higher quality and a bunch of old renders have been replaced to match the newer renders in quality. For instance Lucy dancing will no longer show her pigtail clipping through her torso. Also videos are added where still frames were used before. All this obviously takes time to add without providing "new" contents, yet it improves the overall impression.

On top of that you assume each release will have the same amount of new text. You can't make that assumption. Most likely the amount of render and text increases in each release have increased as the number of releases per year goes down. I will also argue that adding more text now could be a slower process as the world building is pretty much set and as such writing new personality building storylines have a higher risk of clashing with previously written text. This means more details to cross check.

This is all absolutely correct. Simply counting the number of releases doesn't take into account how big they were, or the quality of the art, animations and writing. Our early updates were less than half the size of our recent ones, both in terms of words and image count. The animation quality isn't even comparable. Plus interweaving new story lines with existing content gets ever more complicated.
The game currently contains over 500,000 words of dialogue (about 5 lengthy novels worth), plus around 14,000 images. Compared to the total content, each new update might appear smaller. However, that's just an inevitable consequence of the game getting bigger over time. The fact is, I am a prolific writer and artist, the amount of content I put out a year has only gone up, and anyone saying otherwise is provably false.