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Glooskabe

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Alice seems to have some pretty concrete plan of fucking the MC by how she's measuring his length against her body. Was this always her intention or is she only no going for it after the MC x Katie sex fell through? Is she under the impression Katie is no longer interested? Or is this the whole Lust of the bloodline getting to her.

The MC seems somewhat surprised at remembering everything. Was that not supposed to happen ? I thought only the wake self will forget and even then it bleeds over after some time. And that the name is back seems strange as well. He did it to have a reminder in the waking world. That it's back now feels strange. Might be a manifestation of his anger. If it stays I can't wait to see Inanna's reaction.

Something else that came to mind is how come that Katie has been completely ignored by Inanna? She fits the bill of people that are regularly sent to the island. Was Inanna just too busy with MC and Alice? She did mention a limit to her powers earlier.
I have a theory about Katie that I'm waiting with great anticipation to see if I'm right...
 

HSHS1111

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Katie doesn't have any powers. I forget if it was Inanna or Liv that told us, but we know that while Alice has powers though they aren't as strong as ours, Katie is a normal girl. Which is a very strange thing to write. :ROFLMAO:
Both Mom and Liv said it iirc. Liv specifically tells dream Katie that she can't remember and has no power/control here because she's "normal". But most people allowed on the island don't have powers. Yet they still get their issues resolved as part of Inanna's entertainment program. From what I can see Inanna has mostly been occupied with Alice and MC. But will she eventually turn her attention to Katie. Especially as the MC is hardly in a mood to humor her at the moment.

I have a theory about Katie that I'm waiting with great anticipation to see if I'm right...
Please, do share your thoughts.
 

PixelsLab

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That was a nice lil' update. Is it me or was the grammar in this one improved? Not complaining about that!
For, the last few updates Glooskabe helps me with grammar. If it hadn't been for him, I wouldn't have released this update anytime soon. I used to have to check my own text myself. Imagine a person who does not know English, check the English text for errors. :ROFLMAO:
 

Glooskabe

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Both Mom and Liv said it iirc. Liv specifically tells dream Katie that she can't remember and has no power/control here because she's "normal". But most people allowed on the island don't have powers. Yet they still get their issues resolved as part of Inanna's entertainment program. From what I can see Inanna has mostly been occupied with Alice and MC. But will she eventually turn her attention to Katie. Especially as the MC is hardly in a mood to humor her at the moment.



Please, do share your thoughts.
Well, a fully fleshed out response would take much more energy and time than I have at the moment. However, for starters, I would call your attention to the Katie/Liv scene that caused so much consternation when it came out. (Personally, I hated it at the time.) Where did that scene take place? It took place in Katie's dream room that is explained she created as a place to retreat when she needed time alone. Except for the time when MC visited and mucked around with things, she says it remains pretty consistently the same. (Take away is that someone's creations/constructs can be mucked around with by someone else with power.)

Inanna dumps a shit-ton of lore on MC including some information about temples, places within her dream where people who travel there are safe and extra powerful if they have power. I think Katie's room is her temple. Having a temple itself may not necessarily indicate that she has any power since Inanna says anyone who enters her dream has one. However, if Katie has any power at all, it should be at its greatest when she is in her temple.

What happens after Katie's tryst with Liv in her room? When she wakes up, she begins acting differently. She's no longer afraid/nervous. She feels overwhelming guilt at how she treated MC and despairs that he could ever forgive her. However, with some encouragement from Alice, she goes in search of MC to at once punish herself (?)/prove to herself she can protect herself/confront MC and apologize and make amends. What on earth gave her the strength to do this when the day before she was basically afraid of everything, probably of herself most of all?

So, my theory is that Katie has a little bit of power, not much but a tiny smidge. (She presumably has the blood like Alice so that shouldn't be too hard to imagine.) She was able to find/create her temple in Inanna's dream, but she cannot create her own constructs/golems like MC and Alice can. She cannot directly impact her physical appearance and abilities like MC and Alice can. (Or can she? The game explains that she works hard for it, but damn, she always looks good no matter what she is wearing or what she is doing. Maybe she does influence her body a bit subconsciously?) She cannot heal her own mind like MC is able to do for Maria.

Since her little bit of power is maximized in her temple, I think she was able to use MC's subconscious/ability through his construct (Liv) to heal her own mind. Why through sex? Well, it's a porn game so why not? However, it also seems that an awful lot of Katie's hangups/issues are sexual in nature. It allowed her a safe lesbian encounter which seems to be something she was interested in experimenting with while at the same time interacting with what is essentially a piece of MC's subconscious broken off into an autonomous (?) being. It should be clear that all her protestations aside, she is very interested in MC. This all kinds of meta, but the threads start looking like they might form a pattern. I'm sure I could find other examples, but I think this is enough to get my gist for now.

Why might this be important to the story? Inanna and Eve completely discount her. If she has any power at all, it can be deployed at the opportune moment out of the blue. I'm not convinced either Inanna or Eve are truly evil, but there is definitely some kind of conflict between them that MC is destined to be in the middle of. Katie could potentially be a literal secret weapon in that conflict. This could get especially interesting if the nature of her power is the ability to use other people's abilities/constructs rather than having her own.

Of course, it's all just a theory in my head right now. I'm still waiting to learn more about Katie and what happened to her in Inanna's dream. I really, really hope PL is able to continue development of the game so I can find out what if anything I'm right about.

I hope you enjoyed my TED talk! :geek:
 

crabsinthekitchen

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Katie doesn't have any powers. I forget if it was Inanna or Liv that told us, but we know that while Alice has powers though they aren't as strong as ours, Katie is a normal girl. Which is a very strange thing to write. :ROFLMAO:
I feel like Katie has "some" power but is too weak compared to everyone else on the island. Probably has something to do with the fact she wasn't locked up for 6 years or beaten down daily as a kid

I will never trust the mc's mom or Inanna.
I also don't really trust "Liv". As soon as she started talking to Katie, I feel like she has her own reasons, even if she really wants to help the MC
 

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Well, a fully fleshed out response would take much more energy and time than I have at the moment. However, for starters, I would call your attention to the Katie/Liv scene that caused so much consternation when it came out. (Personally, I hated it at the time.) Where did that scene take place? It took place in Katie's dream room that is explained she created as a place to retreat when she needed time alone. Except for the time when MC visited and mucked around with things, she says it remains pretty consistently the same. (Take away is that someone's creations/constructs can be mucked around with by someone else with power.)

Inanna dumps a shit-ton of lore on MC including some information about temples, places within her dream where people who travel there are safe and extra powerful if they have power. I think Katie's room is her temple. Having a temple itself may not necessarily indicate that she has any power since Inanna says anyone who enters her dream has one. However, if Katie has any power at all, it should be at its greatest when she is in her temple.

What happens after Katie's tryst with Liv in her room? When she wakes up, she begins acting differently. She's no longer afraid/nervous. She feels overwhelming guilt at how she treated MC and despairs that he could ever forgive her. However, with some encouragement from Alice, she goes in search of MC to at once punish herself (?)/prove to herself she can protect herself/confront MC and apologize and make amends. What on earth gave her the strength to do this when the day before she was basically afraid of everything, probably of herself most of all?

So, my theory is that Katie has a little bit of power, not much but a tiny smidge. (She presumably has the blood like Alice so that shouldn't be too hard to imagine.) She was able to find/create her temple in Inanna's dream, but she cannot create her own constructs/golems like MC and Alice can. She cannot directly impact her physical appearance and abilities like MC and Alice can. (Or can she? The game explains that she works hard for it, but damn, she always looks good no matter what she is wearing or what she is doing. Maybe she does influence her body a bit subconsciously?) She cannot heal her own mind like MC is able to do for Maria.

Since her little bit of power is maximized in her temple, I think she was able to use MC's subconscious/ability through his construct (Liv) to heal her own mind. Why through sex? Well, it's a porn game so why not? However, it also seems that an awful lot of Katie's hangups/issues are sexual in nature. It allowed her a safe lesbian encounter which seems to be something she was interested in experimenting with while at the same time interacting with what is essentially a piece of MC's subconscious broken off into an autonomous (?) being. It should be clear that all her protestations aside, she is very interested in MC. This all kinds of meta, but the threads start looking like they might form a pattern. I'm sure I could find other examples, but I think this is enough to get my gist for now.

Why might this be important to the story? Inanna and Eve completely discount her. If she has any power at all, it can be deployed at the opportune moment out of the blue. I'm not convinced either Inanna or Eve are truly evil, but there is definitely some kind of conflict between them that MC is destined to be in the middle of. Katie could potentially be a literal secret weapon in that conflict. This could get especially interesting if the nature of her power is the ability to use other people's abilities/constructs rather than having her own.

Of course, it's all just a theory in my head right now. I'm still waiting to learn more about Katie and what happened to her in Inanna's dream. I really, really hope PL is able to continue development of the game so I can find out what if anything I'm right about.

I hope you enjoyed my TED talk! :geek:
Interesting, interesting! Hehe, but to find out whether you are right or not, you have to wait to continue.:whistle:
 

Master of Puppets

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I feel like Katie has "some" power but is too weak compared to everyone else on the island. Probably has something to do with the fact she wasn't locked up for 6 years or beaten down daily as a kid
I think you have that backwards, Alice doesn't have the power where Katie doesn't because she was locked up, she was locked up and Katie wasn't because Alice is the one with the power. Likewise the MC has always had the power, his harsh training was to make him stronger but he always had it.
 

Spfjolietjake

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I think you have that backwards, Alice doesn't have the power where Katie doesn't because she was locked up, she was locked up and Katie wasn't because Alice is the one with the power. Likewise the MC has always had the power, his harsh training was to make him stronger but he always had it.
You don't think that it amplified it? Or speed it up in someway? Trauma is a great accelerant
 

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Hey guys, hey dev. I decided to make a mod (download it here!) With the following features:
-In game walkthrough.
-Gallery.
-Cheats (you have the option to skip the minigames).
-Improvements (you won't miss scenes).

PixelsLab Congratulations on the excellent job on this game that motivated me to do this mod. I saw that some people are undervaluing your work, just ignore them and move on. Your game has a lot of potential and that is what matters. Have a good day!
 

Master of Puppets

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You don't think that it amplified it? Or speed it up in someway? Trauma is a great accelerant
There's no reason to believe it should. And even if it did help bring out his power as well as make him tougher physically, that would certainly only work because he had the power to begin with.
 
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Cirdon

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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but Chapter 4 has completely sapped any interest I have in playing chapter 5 or further.

I got through the Eve and Inanna scenes and just threw up my hands to say "fuck this shit". Mortals and demigods manipulated like playthings by gods until the demigod decides he's had enough in some later chapter where maybe we get some sense of satisfaction at Eve/Inanna getting a comeuppance?

Great for people who have the patience and interest in those kinds of stories, but as soon as the author decides he needs to keep kicking their main protagonist in the balls until they get finally grow up enough to start blocking those kicks and fight back I'm bailing out. I don't need to deal with the lows for a high that's maybe 10% of the story at the very end after dragging everyone through the mud for the first 90%
 
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HSHS1111

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Well, a fully fleshed out response would take much more energy and time than I have at the moment. However, for starters, I would call your attention to the Katie/Liv scene that caused so much consternation when it came out. (Personally, I hated it at the time.) Where did that scene take place? It took place in Katie's dream room that is explained she created as a place to retreat when she needed time alone. Except for the time when MC visited and mucked around with things, she says it remains pretty consistently the same. (Take away is that someone's creations/constructs can be mucked around with by someone else with power.)

Inanna dumps a shit-ton of lore on MC including some information about temples, places within her dream where people who travel there are safe and extra powerful if they have power. I think Katie's room is her temple. Having a temple itself may not necessarily indicate that she has any power since Inanna says anyone who enters her dream has one. However, if Katie has any power at all, it should be at its greatest when she is in her temple.

What happens after Katie's tryst with Liv in her room? When she wakes up, she begins acting differently. She's no longer afraid/nervous. She feels overwhelming guilt at how she treated MC and despairs that he could ever forgive her. However, with some encouragement from Alice, she goes in search of MC to at once punish herself (?)/prove to herself she can protect herself/confront MC and apologize and make amends. What on earth gave her the strength to do this when the day before she was basically afraid of everything, probably of herself most of all?

So, my theory is that Katie has a little bit of power, not much but a tiny smidge. (She presumably has the blood like Alice so that shouldn't be too hard to imagine.) She was able to find/create her temple in Inanna's dream, but she cannot create her own constructs/golems like MC and Alice can. She cannot directly impact her physical appearance and abilities like MC and Alice can. (Or can she? The game explains that she works hard for it, but damn, she always looks good no matter what she is wearing or what she is doing. Maybe she does influence her body a bit subconsciously?) She cannot heal her own mind like MC is able to do for Maria.

Since her little bit of power is maximized in her temple, I think she was able to use MC's subconscious/ability through his construct (Liv) to heal her own mind. Why through sex? Well, it's a porn game so why not? However, it also seems that an awful lot of Katie's hangups/issues are sexual in nature. It allowed her a safe lesbian encounter which seems to be something she was interested in experimenting with while at the same time interacting with what is essentially a piece of MC's subconscious broken off into an autonomous (?) being. It should be clear that all her protestations aside, she is very interested in MC. This all kinds of meta, but the threads start looking like they might form a pattern. I'm sure I could find other examples, but I think this is enough to get my gist for now.

Why might this be important to the story? Inanna and Eve completely discount her. If she has any power at all, it can be deployed at the opportune moment out of the blue. I'm not convinced either Inanna or Eve are truly evil, but there is definitely some kind of conflict between them that MC is destined to be in the middle of. Katie could potentially be a literal secret weapon in that conflict. This could get especially interesting if the nature of her power is the ability to use other people's abilities/constructs rather than having her own.

Of course, it's all just a theory in my head right now. I'm still waiting to learn more about Katie and what happened to her in Inanna's dream. I really, really hope PL is able to continue development of the game so I can find out what if anything I'm right about.

I hope you enjoyed my TED talk! :geek:
I agree that Katie has a bit of power she is Maria's daughter after all. And the cellar room is certainly her sanctuary. It's interesting that Construct Liv had to ask her to open the door while Micheal "found" a key and got in himself.

Katie most certainly has a role to play aside from girlfriend/fuckbuddy. Liv came to Katie so she would protect Michael when she couldn't.
 

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Okay, I didn't think I'd have to go back to that.
Always dissatisfied is a collective image for those who find a reason to Express their dissatisfaction out of the blue. This time it was you.
I wrote a post in advance that the update is short. Especially for those who don't like short updates. What else can I do? Asking you on knees to wait for a little more content to come out?
Okay. You didn't read it. You don't have to. But on the main page there is a "Changelog" that says the size of the update. Why not read it? You do realize that there might have been an update with no content at all, such as bug fixes?
Or did you know it was a short update? But you did download it. And then I decided to write a dissatisfied message. And then, when you were pointed out that you were slightly wrong, what did you say?

Can't you see you're wrong here?

More then further, you call the man's comment "Dumb".

Convenient, right? To say that I am insulting you, but not to notice how you are insulting someone else?

And then you start talking about how I should run my "business".
I'll explain again. I can make quick and big updates. 300-400 images per month? Easy! And they won't even be bad. Just not as elaborate. And Yes, I am well aware that I am losing money, and with money I lose the ability to improve the quality and speed of work. But I am happy with the results. Although I will probably have to close... as you said...
Sorry for my game being so small.
cool update like this (beach anime episode)
 
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vmaks

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I most want to know about the father of MC, who is this mysterious man who was able to win the heart of a woman like Eva.
 
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vmaks

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and as a respected developer sees everyone agrees that Katie has some strength but for some reason they are either weaker or they just turned off waiting for more information about the QUEEN
 

PixelsLab

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Hey guys, hey dev. I decided to make a mod (download it here!) With the following features:
-In game walkthrough.
-Gallery.
-Cheats (you have the option to skip the minigames).
-Improvements (you won't miss scenes).

PixelsLab Congratulations on the excellent job on this game that motivated me to do this mod. I saw that some people are undervaluing your work, just ignore them and move on. Your game has a lot of potential and that is what matters. Have a good day!
I'm so tired of you making my game better! One adds new features, others correct mistakes in the text... You make me an idiot, unable to work well! :ROFLMAO:
But seriously, thanks for your hard work. I'm glad that you are interested in my game and my story.:giggle:
 
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