VN Ren'Py The Intoxicating Flavor [Fantasies v4.0] [PixelsLab]

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Bigeggs

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This game is still in devlopment? Damn long for sure.
I seen this game at the very first time I join this site.
 

Hadgar

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Hello everyone!!!

Delayed writing this post until the last minute. At the end I will explain why.

About version 0.10.5.
Unfortunately, I made a few mistakes when releasing this update.

  • I didn't add a disclaimer in English version.
  • The update included some text in Russian for version 0.10.6.
I apologize for the inattention. I was in a hurry. Still, the idea of small monthly updates doesn't really work because of my health. When I can get sick for a week and a half, and the update must be released. So now I'm thinking about reconsidering the concept of releasing updates.

Funny how I was only informed of the problem when the game came out for Tier 1. Seems like most people are just waiting for more content to come out.

About version 0.10.6.
This is an update that comes out tomorrow.

What's new.

  • 92 images
  • 2200 words.
As you can see, it's even smaller than the previous one. All I've managed to do in 11 days.

In the last update we finally finished with Alice's memories, and now we can relax a bit.

About version 0.10.7
This is where the complications start. The update is in the works and already has 28 images ready. But I'm unfortunately not sure if the update will even come out.

About Steam
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And here's the news I've been procrastinating for 3 months.

A lot of people have probably noticed that I've been inactive for the last 2-3 months. Less communication in Discord, less posts on Patreon, Boosty and so on. And as you've already realized, I've been preparing a game for Steam during this time. (Well, and I was still healing from another attack for a long time.)

As it happens, I've been in a bad situation for the last year and a half, my Patreon support has more than halved, my debts are piling up, and it's getting harder and harder to pay for housing and medical procedures. And a release on Steam could help me get back on my feet somehow.

And that would be good news if the game actually got released. But it looks like I'm going to be turned down. I've been waiting for an answer for over a week, although it's written that the game is checked in 2-3 days, maximum 5. I read the forums and it turns out that such delays are only for adult games and only before issuing a rejection.

So my last hope to finish the game now is burning out. I'll wait a few more days, after which I'll write to support. And if I do get rejected, I'll close the page in December and go get a job while my qualifications are still worth something.

But until then, I'll keep doing updates and hope for a successful outcome. (I'm still updating my resume, though. )

Whatever Steam's response is, I'll still write a more detailed post in late November or early December.

Thank you so much for your support! I really hope you enjoy the new update.

P.S.
And it's also worth adding that this post is for information and information only. I am in no way asking you to increase your support! Quite the opposite. Keep in mind that the page could shut down at any time. And even if my support increases two or three or five times next month, but I get rejected by Steam, I will still close the page, as I can no longer afford to depend on Patreon.
 

hasssin

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P.S. And it's also worth adding that this post is for information and information only. I am in no way asking you to increase your support! Quite the opposite. Keep in mind that the page could shut down at any time. And even if my support increases two or three or five times next month, but I get rejected by Steam, I will still close the page, as I can no longer afford to depend on Patreon.
so soon it's going abandoned for sure.
this game has 3.9 million views on only this forum. If there had been devoted work and development, I'm sure he wouldn't have had any money problems.
 

Ottoeight

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Oh well. Here we go again. Once again.

So, I still remember when he swore that he was going to be drafted into the army and sent to Ukraine to fight. I wrote that it was impossible because of his illness. I remember his white knights telling me names.

Now what?
 
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PixelsLab

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Oh well. Here we go again. Once again.

So, I still remember when he swore that he was going to be drafted into the army and sent to Ukraine to fight. I wrote that it was impossible because of his illness. I remember his white knights telling me names.

Now what?
Over the past year and a half, of course, I have heard a lot of insults related to the fact that I am from Russia and the horrors that are happening in our countries. But you just came out with something extravagant.
Throw down the links when I said I swore I'd be picked up to army. Even though there was a chance. I definitely remember saying that I would never go to war to kill other people.
And most importantly, what does this have to do with me not being able to finish the game. Or have you been so offended for so long that you couldn't win some argument that you waited so long to gloat?
 

SonsOfLiberty

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There's a reason why mods removed compressed versions from EVERY thread's OP.
That's not the reason and they are not removed from every thread...compressed works fine.

The reason was there aren't enough uploaders to constantly add and fill reports. There is a site update coming along with a new system coming in the future to add them automatically.

One uploader I know does like 50 plus a day....there are more sections than just games.
 
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As it happens, I've been in a bad situation for the last year and a half, my Patreon support has more than halved, my debts are piling up, and it's getting harder and harder to pay for housing and medical procedures.
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If there had been devoted work and development, I'm sure he wouldn't have had any money problems.
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Just my two cents:

First, this is no question of missing devotion!

From what we could get from PixelsLab, he was devoted from the beginning, but bad english in the first chapters and the fact the story needed some time to get into held people back - but for he paid for translations (and was kind of scammed), fewer people supporting him meant that updates needed longer to be translated - a bad downwards spiral.

Besides that point, PixelsLab didn't hide from the very beginning that he had health and money issues.
Still, he kept coming through. Just the support never really picked up - like it does not for many good/promising VNs.

But as a developer, you can't keep going unaffected by that indefinitely.

Then at some point, because PixelsLab had problems (don't remember the specific reason), instead of just announcing the situation, he actively asked people over several posts to stop supporting him - and guess what - they did.

That falls pretty much together with a noticeable decline in Patreon support and later never really picked up again - also because of what I mentioned before.

Then later PixelsLab announced there were problems with getting money out of Patreon because of him being from Russia. In that vein, he also asked people to either stop their support or use other means like his SubscribeStar account. But that one kept us waiting to be fully set up. So not only were people removing their Patreon support, but they also weren't able to shift it somewhere else instead in case they wanted.
This is also an important point - not everyone has those other accounts or wants to use them - just like other people won't touch Patreon for various reasons.

So while it is understandable, that a situation where no money comes in is not sustainable for a longer time period - just lamenting over it is a bit too easy here - the current situation was also in part set up by PixelsLab himself by actively making people withdraw their support.

For now, I'm keeping my support up - and PixelsLab - If you don't categorically intend to stop working on this VN altogether after finding a job to give you some more stability - don't make the same mistake again.
Asking people to not support you or closing possibilities for them to do so will result in less support without question.
Just state the situation and don't overshare by making such decisions for your supporters unless that outcome is what you are aiming for.

There are enough examples of developers that have a quite slow update schedule and still getting some support from people who like their work though. Sometimes even stating it's just a relaxing hobby and if they get 50$ a month it's a bonus/sign of appreciation for them, but not what keeps them going.

So if it doesn't cost you to keep your SubscribeStar/Patreon account open and your update schedule would just be reduced to once half a year for example - just ignore people asking for a quick sex scene or lamenting about you not pumping image numbers out like a 10 person team, and let people decide on their own what support your slowed schedule is worth to them.

It will decline, but getting 200$ a month instead of 700$ and still working on the VN as you are capable and willing to besides a day job might still be better than just abandoning what you invested all that work, money, and health into over the last years.

If it has become just stress for you though and only gives you bad memories - then as much as it would pain me to not get to the end of the story - close everything but do it in a way that no one is uncertain if there was a chance left you came back - don't do it in stages, where you first tell us you can't work on it as much, actively ask us to reduce our support (and offensively stating you understand us reducing our support, ultimately is that as well) and then close everything up later because of your declined support ...

After all that: Regardless of what you decide PixelsLab, thanks for your work and dedication to see this through until now.
While it was a rocky start for me as well - I really enjoyed the story so far. :love:
I wish you all the best going forward! :)
 
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