He's probably there already. He and Wendis shared partners, then there's his harem getting him a good 1/4 of the way there by themselves, various one-off NPCs singly or in group scenes, all those succubi he had to give sexual healing after the war, all those Erosians after the other war... and the game isn't over yet.
RPGM The Last Sovereign [v0.76.3] [Sierra Lee]
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Think he's well into triple digits now.
You are aware he's practically a sex god, right?
Curing the unsuccubus alone would probably have taken him to the triple digits then there are the hundreds of Erosian succubi he helped plus all the one off's and a pretty large harem.
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Yeah, I think it's implied Simon's getting plenty of sex from his harem off-screen. Even if the only sex he's getting while you're playing comes from the sex scenes you purposefully trigger, there have been long time skips between chapters (IIRC Simon begins TLS at the age of 55, and he's currently 60).
- Aug 22, 2018
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I think it's safe to stop counting his age now.
He's immortal and looking younger.
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How younger are we talking? Because like other strongmen such as Samson and Riker, I firmly believe that 99% of Simon's power is concentrated in his beard.
- Aug 22, 2018
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Not young enough to have a bald face.
I think 2 things would go wrong if Simon lost his beard, he would lose his power and Cum would be confused as fuck.
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- Jul 23, 2018
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I am at the part in that purple womans empire i will be honest game has kind of got boring after being forced to play other routes doing a lot of tedious crap.
- Jan 28, 2018
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Uh, yeah, this definitely isn't a game for you if being "forced" to play through those routes was boring. At this point I don't know what exactly you're expecting from this game, but whatever it is you're not getting it. Honestly that's okay, not everything is for everyone, and I think TLS isn't for you. I'd suggest playing something you do enjoy instead of suffering through this because it's highly-recommended or you're waiting to unlock a ton of nonexistent porn or whatever.
- Jul 23, 2018
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I enjoyed the start not really bothered by not getting porn all the time but it just got boring a lot of stuff in just feels so tedious and unnecessary.
- Feb 19, 2018
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tl (seriously, LOOK AT THIS FUCKING POST);dr: The scenarios are good, you guys. Also, isolation miiiight be getting to me.
I actually liked the routes because there was so little Simon; it showcased the harem girls' skills and greatly expanded their characters by having them out of the shadow of Simon. One thing many works of media (not just games, and certainly not just pron games) have in common is the MC as some kind of ubermensch, and if they're not capable of doing everything, then they're at least the only person capable of moving the plot along. That alone doesn't make a story bad, mind you, but it does make a story predictable, where if the hero's not onscreen then you can be sure that nothing of any real significance is happening or would happen.
Which is why those scenes, and the upcoming scenes where the characters split up to do their own things, are so important. One thing that becomes clear even early on is the idea that Simon has an eye for quality- not just in material terms, but in terms of his relationships. Even if the story elements (people, nations, even equipment) he interacts with don't start out good, people like Aka (a common bounty hunter), Cum (a dumb succubus) and Altina (naive elf) soon find themselves rising to the occasion. Hell, even before Simon finds his shard, we know for a fact that he was married to Wendis (a highly intelligent scholar), and knew Hilstara (hella badass warrior), Riala ('nuff said) and Sarai (unless TLS halflings age like Tolkien elves, then she must've been highly placed in the Church even at a young age).
Here's the thing though: as long as Simon's on-screen, the story is about Simon, is moved along by Simon, and any knowledge about his harem's abilities only available as information told to us. Again, this is not a bad thing, but any author actually worth being called an author knows that stories live and die on the principle of 'show, don't tell', and Simon's harem needed a little more showing, and I'm not talking about descriptions of them with their kit off.
Which is why the three scenarios are so important to TLS's storytelling. We have been TOLD that Yarra is a high-ranking succubus who defected from the court of a mad king. This also implies that she's a master (mistress?) seductress, which implies great interpersonal skills. But we don't really get what what MEANS until the Gathering, where she navigates several politcal meetings, 'negotiates' with several major blocs in succubus society, even directly takes a blast of sex magic from a near-literal god of sex and gives him the finger in the only way he CAN'T enjoy. The only person she doesn't actually outwit is Esthera, who is basically Yarra+. Hell, if you kill it at the Gathering, the game goes out of its friggin' way to outright show you this with Esthera giving Yarra her old whip.
And then there's Aka, Trin, (if you managed to find her) Altina, and most of all, Robin's route. We've been told that Aka's a badass warrior who loves Simon and that Robin's a skilled mage with plenty to prove, and we get to see them both exhibit their skills here outside the shadow of Simon guiding them along. Aka gets to show off her leadership skills, which are a far better indication of how close she's become to Simon (a development mirrored with Yarra and Hilstara to a lesser extent) than any open declaration, and Robin shows us that she really is a skilled mage capable of working things out by herself without having to rely on Simon giving her mental and emotional nudges now and then. I do wish the game also expanded the roles of Trin and Altina, but the former seems fairly content to be who she is, and Altina could be missed, so I can understand why she isn't all that expanded here (it's sad, really; Altina's the game's biggest misstep, but I don't have time nor space for another essay).
Finally, there's MILF Fight Club (shut up, I think it's a funny name for their scenario). Sure, we saw that Megail had some economic skills in her intro, but that was dominated by Simon showing off how much some supposedly dumb soldier knew about the economic situation. Now we get to see Megail in her element, negotiating major economic deals with a nation under seige, maybe even helping said nation take its first steps towards independence and self-determination by funding an embassy. Hilstara and Varia don't have a lot of opportunities to show off here, to be fair, but Carina? Man, this short chapter might be as much Carina's show as it was Megail's. Sure, her sex scene wasn't super hot, but the fact that she even had one, had a sex-related discussion with what her religion would call sin-ridden adulteresses. without Simon egging her on? It showed that she was willing to develop a role she once saw as extremely sinful- again, without needing the Big Strong Protagonist™ to push her into doing so.
Now, the chapters aren't perfect, of course, and some characters get shafted (and not in a good way). Outside the arena fights. Orcent seems a little extraneous, and the fact that he can only use Orc equipment just adds to the restraints an already restrictive ingame economy puts on you. Choosing to liberate the mines in Aka's route means fighting a boss that even with Altina's help can be an exercise in RNG. And Megail's chapter is just too short, with the length padded out by battles and bounties that don't really add all that much save to show off Hilstara's distraction abilities and Varia's firepower (which, to be fair, might have been part of the design intentions).
But even with those elements detracting from the overall granular experience, as a whole I think the scenarios really did what they needed to do- to show that the harem's not just a bunch of fucktoys, but people who have and will continue to prove their worth outside of being fucktoys.
I actually liked the routes because there was so little Simon; it showcased the harem girls' skills and greatly expanded their characters by having them out of the shadow of Simon. One thing many works of media (not just games, and certainly not just pron games) have in common is the MC as some kind of ubermensch, and if they're not capable of doing everything, then they're at least the only person capable of moving the plot along. That alone doesn't make a story bad, mind you, but it does make a story predictable, where if the hero's not onscreen then you can be sure that nothing of any real significance is happening or would happen.
Which is why those scenes, and the upcoming scenes where the characters split up to do their own things, are so important. One thing that becomes clear even early on is the idea that Simon has an eye for quality- not just in material terms, but in terms of his relationships. Even if the story elements (people, nations, even equipment) he interacts with don't start out good, people like Aka (a common bounty hunter), Cum (a dumb succubus) and Altina (naive elf) soon find themselves rising to the occasion. Hell, even before Simon finds his shard, we know for a fact that he was married to Wendis (a highly intelligent scholar), and knew Hilstara (hella badass warrior), Riala ('nuff said) and Sarai (unless TLS halflings age like Tolkien elves, then she must've been highly placed in the Church even at a young age).
Here's the thing though: as long as Simon's on-screen, the story is about Simon, is moved along by Simon, and any knowledge about his harem's abilities only available as information told to us. Again, this is not a bad thing, but any author actually worth being called an author knows that stories live and die on the principle of 'show, don't tell', and Simon's harem needed a little more showing, and I'm not talking about descriptions of them with their kit off.
Which is why the three scenarios are so important to TLS's storytelling. We have been TOLD that Yarra is a high-ranking succubus who defected from the court of a mad king. This also implies that she's a master (mistress?) seductress, which implies great interpersonal skills. But we don't really get what what MEANS until the Gathering, where she navigates several politcal meetings, 'negotiates' with several major blocs in succubus society, even directly takes a blast of sex magic from a near-literal god of sex and gives him the finger in the only way he CAN'T enjoy. The only person she doesn't actually outwit is Esthera, who is basically Yarra+. Hell, if you kill it at the Gathering, the game goes out of its friggin' way to outright show you this with Esthera giving Yarra her old whip.
And then there's Aka, Trin, (if you managed to find her) Altina, and most of all, Robin's route. We've been told that Aka's a badass warrior who loves Simon and that Robin's a skilled mage with plenty to prove, and we get to see them both exhibit their skills here outside the shadow of Simon guiding them along. Aka gets to show off her leadership skills, which are a far better indication of how close she's become to Simon (a development mirrored with Yarra and Hilstara to a lesser extent) than any open declaration, and Robin shows us that she really is a skilled mage capable of working things out by herself without having to rely on Simon giving her mental and emotional nudges now and then. I do wish the game also expanded the roles of Trin and Altina, but the former seems fairly content to be who she is, and Altina could be missed, so I can understand why she isn't all that expanded here (it's sad, really; Altina's the game's biggest misstep, but I don't have time nor space for another essay).
Finally, there's MILF Fight Club (shut up, I think it's a funny name for their scenario). Sure, we saw that Megail had some economic skills in her intro, but that was dominated by Simon showing off how much some supposedly dumb soldier knew about the economic situation. Now we get to see Megail in her element, negotiating major economic deals with a nation under seige, maybe even helping said nation take its first steps towards independence and self-determination by funding an embassy. Hilstara and Varia don't have a lot of opportunities to show off here, to be fair, but Carina? Man, this short chapter might be as much Carina's show as it was Megail's. Sure, her sex scene wasn't super hot, but the fact that she even had one, had a sex-related discussion with what her religion would call sin-ridden adulteresses. without Simon egging her on? It showed that she was willing to develop a role she once saw as extremely sinful- again, without needing the Big Strong Protagonist™ to push her into doing so.
Now, the chapters aren't perfect, of course, and some characters get shafted (and not in a good way). Outside the arena fights. Orcent seems a little extraneous, and the fact that he can only use Orc equipment just adds to the restraints an already restrictive ingame economy puts on you. Choosing to liberate the mines in Aka's route means fighting a boss that even with Altina's help can be an exercise in RNG. And Megail's chapter is just too short, with the length padded out by battles and bounties that don't really add all that much save to show off Hilstara's distraction abilities and Varia's firepower (which, to be fair, might have been part of the design intentions).
But even with those elements detracting from the overall granular experience, as a whole I think the scenarios really did what they needed to do- to show that the harem's not just a bunch of fucktoys, but people who have and will continue to prove their worth outside of being fucktoys.
- Jul 23, 2018
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If you had the option to skip the other routes i would like it way more just seem like this game will be a pure chore to replay like all that politic crap when you have to choose who goes on that throne what a damn chore that is seems like a damn waste of time.
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Agreed, but an argument about that could be made there.
The route's, while really important to individual character development (and I 100% agree with everything you said), are, of course, not the only times where such development where Simon is not a key part are shown. Other periods of such include the war segments where the parties split.
I mean, think about the War period in Chapter 4. As an example, you have Nalili and Orilise going essentially undercover in the elven forests where I think Nalili's personal character development really shined. She is a spoiled Succubus princess whom Simon was tasked to educate and help mature. That segment really shows her progress and how much she matured (while also still being really direct as always and funny).
Straying back on topic...
In my opinion, Trin really had her character summed up and well shown in her show-down against that mage in Zerantia who had similar skills to hers.
She teleports in, drops some F bombs, says "no, I'm unique and you can't have the same magic as mine" (basically) and deletes the opposition. I feel like that is a perfect roundup of her character and to me that felt satisfying.
I would say that it would have been nicer if such character development was made earlier, but it is still nice when it finally happens.
So you're in the Empire in chapter 2, but your favored example of tedium is something from chapter 4? Which you supposedly haven't played yet?
Interesting.
- Feb 19, 2018
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Thing is though, the politics, economics and intrigue are why most of us enjoy the game- I said it before and I'll say it again, at some point most people will end up spacebar-ing themselves past the sex scenes because there's only so much you can do to describe 'Tab A goes into Slot B'. If I just wanted porn, I'd play something by Miel, or just spend a few minutes (DON'T LAUGH) on sadpanda/Pornhub. Sure, some of the later game sex scenes have story beats that are worth reading, but on the whole, if you came into TLS for the hot steamy sex, I think you might end up disappointed.
Oh, I very much agree. I only left out the later character development bits you mentioned simply because the player in question said that they hadn't reached those parts of the story yet and I didn't want to spoil them. That said:
So the player might not have been entirely honest.So you're in the Empire in chapter 2, but your favored example of tedium is something from chapter 4? Which you supposedly haven't played yet?
Interesting.
- Oct 5, 2019
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Caught red handed
Also, my mistake for not reading the full conversation and therefore realizing that I might have been potentially spoiling things
Lesson learned
Also, my mistake for not reading the full conversation and therefore realizing that I might have been potentially spoiling things
Lesson learned
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No prob, dude. Heck, this topic's long enough without me adding my academic dissertations to the mixAlso, my mistake for not reading the full conversation and therefore realizing that I might have been potentially spoiling things
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I just started playing it before.So you're in the Empire in chapter 2, but your favored example of tedium is something from chapter 4? Which you supposedly haven't played yet?
Interesting.
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Hey, I enjoy some good academic dissertationsNo prob, dude. Heck, this topic's long enough without me adding my academic dissertations to the mix