RPGM The Last Sovereign [v0.77.2] [Sierra Lee]

[Jayjay000]

never hear a bug like this, care to share a save?

38 is just before going to Ardford (research not chosen yet, I know, but I did choose one before meeting Tyna).
39 is at Farnan's warehouse, the earliest save after leaving HQ.
46 is just before going to extra-space to meet Alonon.
47 is after returning from Ardford, which not a single research is done yet although I'm 100% SURE I've chosen one before, and I've replayed it once again but same result.

 

[Azazelios_RPG]

I went into this game with my dick in one hand, but I kept playing well after my fap.

The characterization and background (with the usual suspension of belief in porn games) are both excellent, to the point where I'd argue that you should play this game just so you can experience that good writing and smutty games need not be mutually exclusive.

Even with just the usual suspension of belief we use in any narrative this game goes with quite a good plot. I started playing this when chapter 1 was just finished and with no R-18 ilustrations. I kinda liked that since that meant I could play with no risk of anyboidy realizing this was an R18-RPG

 

[lolfinland]

Is the file supposed to be .exe? I'm worried it might be a virus lmao

 

[Snugglepuff]

Is the file supposed to be .exe?

Yes, it is.

It's basically an install file, so you run that and then the game, from whatever directory you specified as part of the installation.

 

[Fulminato]

Is the file supposed to be .exe? I'm worried it might be a virus lmao

you can change the extension in .rar it's a self extracting archive

 

[zoyle]

Dunno if this has been discussed before, but I've chosen one of the second slate research (the one you start by talking to Riala, Orc Diversification) before the Ardan Succession Crisis. I finished the crisis, but the moment I came back to HQ, checked in with Riala, the research is still not done. And I've tried this twice, so no chance I forgot to chose the research prior to going to Ardoheim. Is this a known bug or am I just down on my luck?

I hate to be this dude but the most likely thing is just that you forgot to select it or bumped the back button and backed out instead of confirming or something like that. Your research updates when you complete an iteration and get paid investments in Chapter 4.


At least you do have the one right beforehand and the crisis is fast to play through if you know what all your decisions are going to be. It's probably the best place to make this kind of mistake, as you don't have an enormous dungeon crawl or massive scripted event like the other ch4 iterations all do. I hate having to re-play events like the wars after making a mistake because it's easy to get into text-advance mashing mode and make the wrong decision.

 

[zoyle]

it's a html/javascript tool to simulate all the math involved in a playthrough.

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By the way, when are you planning to do the next update to this? Are you going to wait until the post-Gathering open world concludes so you don't have to go back and add new investments if even more options are added? As it is, it ends when the Gathering does and has no space for planning out the many, many post-gathering investment options in Rodak and the Orgasmic Empire. Even if I don't fix my decisions, it'd be nice to plan out and see exactly what I can afford (though, with how optimized my investments are, I think the answer is "almost everything", I've got approximately 9m to play with before/after the 2nd Gathering after spending 3k on Ferroholm - I'm taking in 4.5m per iteration and carried over 3m from Ch 4 after running out of things I wanted to buy during the final open world phase).

I'd offer to assist but I don't own RPGM so I can't decompile the game and look at the variables, unfortunately, the way I almost certainly would if this was a ren.py game.

 

[Fulminato]

38 is just before going to Ardford (research not chosen yet, I know, but I did choose one before meeting Tyna).
39 is at Farnan's warehouse, the earliest save after leaving HQ.
46 is just before going to extra-space to meet Alonon.
47 is after returning from Ardford, which not a single research is done yet although I'm 100% SURE I've chosen one before, and I've replayed it once again but same result.

no. you havent chose the research. at least based on your savegame
all your save lack of proper switch. (for the orc research is #2582). i start with the save 38 set the research and play the minimum to end the section (ball + kalant introduction then meet alonon and the research is properly completed.

i don't advise, but if you don't want replay through the section again

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is your save46 with the proper switch set. this should be safe and sound, but i cannot be 100% sure.

By the way, when are you planning to do the next update to this? Are you going to wait until the post-Gathering open world concludes so you don't have to go back and add new investments if even more options are added? As it is, it ends when the Gathering does and has no space for planning out the many, many post-gathering investment options in Rodak and the Orgasmic Empire. Even if I don't fix my decisions, it'd be nice to plan out and see exactly what I can afford (though, with how optimized my investments are, I think the answer is "almost everything", I've got approximately 9m to play with before/after the 2nd Gathering after spending 3k on Ferroholm - I'm taking in 4.5m per iteration and carried over 3m from Ch 4 after running out of things I wanted to buy during the final open world phase).

i'm in slacking mode, sadly. a lot is because the last two/three weeks at work were intense and this sap the resolution to works to the calculator. with a bit of luck this and the next weeks should be more 'normal' and i will find the time to work on the calculator.

add other options without any retroactive change is mostly painless, i develope a modular structure for the code, so expand it don't require much work. and the oper world section are 80% of replicated code from the previous section. but i near completed the adding of the tooltips to all open world sections of the calculator (only the first chapter 5 'round' is missing) after complete it put togeter the next section (chapter 5 second round) should be very straightforward.

as usual, my plan is to release the update of the calculator before the next major game update.

PS: your advice about a report of invalid option after a change is interesting, if i find a good solution don't involving rewrite half of the code could be a very massive QoL improve.

 

[zoyle]

no. you havent chose the research. at least based on your savegame
all your save lack of proper switch. (for the orc research is #2582). i start with the save 38 set the research and play the minimum to end the section (ball + kalant introduction then meet alonon and the research is properly completed.

i don't advise, but if you don't want replay through the section again

You must be registered to see the links

is your save46 with the proper switch set. this should be safe and sound, but i cannot be 100% sure.



i'm in slacking mode, sadly. a lot is because the last two/three weeks at work were intense and this sap the resolution to works to the calculator. with a bit of luck this and the next weeks should be more 'normal' and i will find the time to work on the calculator.

add other options without any retroactive change is mostly painless, i develope a modular structure for the code, so expand it don't require much work. and the oper world section are 80% of replicated code from the previous section. but i near completed the adding of the tooltips to all open world sections of the calculator (only the first chapter 5 'round' is missing) after complete it put togeter the next section (chapter 5 second round) should be very straightforward.

as usual, my plan is to release the update of the calculator before the next major game update.

PS: your advice about a report of invalid option after a change is interesting, if i find a good solution don't involving rewrite half of the code could be a very massive QoL improve.

I'm curious how you wrote this script; is it native JS, or did you write it in TypeScript and compile, or something else?

I'm kind of super impressed and also super terrified if you wrote the whole thing in plain JS.

When I work with JavaScript it's mostly as TypeScript in single-page application frameworks (largely Angular), where it wouldn't be super painful to make this kind of change because you probably only have a single display component iterating over your data object.

Edit: this is completely random but I just remembered and it bothered me:

I understand you are supposed to be able to have Lightning Lance for the first Unhuman fight (retrieving Megail) in Ch1 if you get every exp point.

I've played through this game 3 times, and Robin has had 132 exp to go to gain that level at that fight all 3 times. What exp did I miss? lol

Is it only possible if you hurt your army by killing the orcs instead of dominating them in the stineford ruined farm?

 

[Hung Gen]

zoyle,
the first thing you want to do when you get to Stineford(chap2), is to sleep so you can get Robin to join early enough she gets exp from the underground cavern and mine before Hilstara suggests going to the mine. It's best to dominate the orcs at the farm than to kill them.

 

[Jayjay000]

I hate to be this dude but the most likely thing is just that you forgot to select it or bumped the back button and backed out instead of confirming or something like that. Your research updates when you complete an iteration and get paid investments in Chapter 4.


At least you do have the one right beforehand and the crisis is fast to play through if you know what all your decisions are going to be. It's probably the best place to make this kind of mistake, as you don't have an enormous dungeon crawl or massive scripted event like the other ch4 iterations all do. I hate having to re-play events like the wars after making a mistake because it's easy to get into text-advance mashing mode and make the wrong decision.

Yes, thankfully, that section is relatively short compared to other sections, so not a big deal. I actually enjoyed replaying it, since I mostly speedrun the dialogues due to habit.

no. you havent chose the research. at least based on your savegame
all your save lack of proper switch. (for the orc research is #2582). i start with the save 38 set the research and play the minimum to end the section (ball + kalant introduction then meet alonon and the research is properly completed.

i don't advise, but if you don't want replay through the section again

You must be registered to see the links

is your save46 with the proper switch set. this should be safe and sound, but i cannot be 100% sure.

I really appreciate the help. Though I'm not against save tweakings, I do worry about unforeseen consequences. I'll try again but this time, I'll save AFTER choosing one of the research options. Again, big thanks!

 

[Fulminato]

I'm curious how you wrote this script; is it native JS, or did you write it in TypeScript and compile, or something else?

I'm kind of super impressed and also super terrified if you wrote the whole thing in plain JS.

pure JS, without knowledge of the language (html+js+css) starting with a frameworks i know nothing build above another language i know nothing too seem... a bit to much.

but i don't start from nothing. but i analyzed a little tool XOyOyOx made for BoY and work from here. (you can check here

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) making working the modal for the panel option was a great achivevemnt back in the day.

When I work with JavaScript it's mostly as TypeScript in single-page application frameworks (largely Angular), where it wouldn't be super painful to make this kind of change because you probably only have a single display component iterating over your data object.

will take the advice and will see if is a viable strategy (both as code work and my skill level)

Edit: this is completely random but I just remembered and it bothered me:

I understand you are supposed to be able to have Lightning Lance for the first Unhuman fight (retrieving Megail) in Ch1 if you get every exp point.

I've played through this game 3 times, and Robin has had 132 exp to go to gain that level at that fight all 3 times. What exp did I miss? lol

Is it only possible if you hurt your army by killing the orcs instead of dominating them in the stineford ruined farm?

it's possibile because i do it in many playthrough. you probably miss a few exp in stineford. can be the ambush in a alley of the slum (the one aka say "they were desperate") [69 XP] and the four totaly honest people in the bar attacking you if you try to talk with them [311 XP] or you miss some enemy in the tunnel between stineford and the succubus tower or some in the devil pass/incubus cache.

the orc in the farm don't count because robin don't join the party in the farm exploration (only simon and hilstara are the party composition)

 

[zoyle]

TypeScript isnt really another language, it's a better way to write JavaScript with additional features, that then compiles into a Javascript file in order to actually function. It's remarkably easy to learn if you have any kind of programming background, which is exactly why it exists - it lets you write JavaScript using the principles of more typical object-oriented programming languages. Raw JS code written in TS will work fine - you just gain additional features, most notably the ability to assign types to variables (ie you can specify 'let var name: string = "Name"', and it is impossible to assign a non-string value to that variable, the code won't compile and your IDE will lint it as an error, making tracking variables across large files much, much easier. It also implements classes and interfaces better than raw JS, handles imports/modules better, among other things). It's a very useful tool and enormously faster to write in than raw JS because of all the advantages of modern languages that it implements that JavaScript lacks. But what the browser gets is still a .js file in the end.

Switching over to a SPA framework would be a bit of work, but if it was something you wanted to do I would collaborate with you on it and teach you some of it. It would let you create something that is much easier to update in the future - or to translate to another game entirely, if architected properly.

And no, I got both of those encounters in Stineford. Is there anything like that in Ari-Yhilina?

 

[zoyle]

zoyle,
the first thing you want to do when you get to Stineford(chap2), is to sleep so you can get Robin to join early enough she gets exp from the underground cavern and mine before Hilstara suggests going to the mine. It's best to dominate the orcs at the farm than to kill them.

Yeah I did all this and ended up 132 exp short, which is what confuses me. And I did it on two separate playthroughs, so its almost certainly the same encoounter that I am missing. It isn't in the Stineford slums, it isn't in the tunnels to succubus tower, and it isn't in the slums spider building. Is there a missable encounter anywhere else? An extra demon encounter after the whole party rejoins in the Thaumaturgical academy that can be missed, or something like that?

Or a similar easily-missed encounter in Ari-Yhilina somewhere?

 

[Goi]

if you have saves around that section you can use this walkthrough to figure out which area you missed the EXP in

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since it keeps track of what simon EXP is

a possible one is do you let the academy boss spawn foes 3 times

 

[Fulminato]

Yeah I did all this and ended up 132 exp short, which is what confuses me. And I did it on two separate playthroughs, so its almost certainly the same encoounter that I am missing. It isn't in the Stineford slums, it isn't in the tunnels to succubus tower, and it isn't in the slums spider building. Is there a missable encounter anywhere else? An extra demon encounter after the whole party rejoins in the Thaumaturgical academy that can be missed, or something like that?

Or a similar easily-missed encounter in Ari-Yhilina somewhere?

there is the third demon wave in the battle at the end of the robin quest section, as noted above, but if you recruit hilstara before doing the quest you will have a bonus fight.

other fight easy to miss don't come in my mind.

 

[Lolicon Kami]

Yeah I did all this and ended up 132 exp short, which is what confuses me. And I did it on two separate playthroughs, so its almost certainly the same encoounter that I am missing. It isn't in the Stineford slums, it isn't in the tunnels to succubus tower, and it isn't in the slums spider building. Is there a missable encounter anywhere else? An extra demon encounter after the whole party rejoins in the Thaumaturgical academy that can be missed, or something like that?

Or a similar easily-missed encounter in Ari-Yhilina somewhere?

if you have saves around that section you can use this walkthrough to figure out which area you missed the EXP in

You must be registered to see the links

since it keeps track of what simon EXP is

a possible one is do you let the academy boss spawn foes 3 times

there is the third demon wave in the battle at the end of the robin quest section, as noted above, but if you recruit hilstara before doing the quest you will have a bonus fight.

other fight easy to miss don't come in my mind.

When you fight the demons in the Academy, when you fight the final boss, you need to have Hilstara with you to get maximum EXP. Then, did you wait for the boss to spawn the demons thrice? As written in the walkthrough:
don't kill the boss before he spawned enemies 3 times

Also not exactly relevant but if you follow Thosha's walkthrough you don't get the best status in the Aram border incident (the one after your visit to Euristin that leads to the Third Arclent war), which gives you a little bonus EXP of around 1,000.

I got the best result (invested in both Aram and Ardoheim border investment at House of Pentions, in the Court, in Yhillin) and thus didn't get the bonus EXP

 

[zoyle]

Yeah, never had any issues hitting the EXP thresholds later in the game.

It's the Hilstara thing: I've never had Hilstara when recruiting Robin, as my strategy for the Stineford area was always start -> run through to the Succubi Tower while avoiding fights -> make Brothel visit before recruiting Robin - get Robin - start doing quests to max her EXP.

I missed out on the detail of needing to pick up Hilstara to maximize the outcomes during the Demon incursion. That's where my missing EXP was.

Getting Lightning Lance for completing the Unhuman fight is -such- an insult, lol.

Much more important than the 1k bonus exp for the Border incident is that you're better off in most of the game if Aram takes a decent amount of Collateral Damage during the 3rd Arclent War: It reduces the cost of Aram/Eustrin Embassy by quite a bit, and your ideal outcome is 20-29 Aram CD.

The easiest way to get a high Aram CD while still getting an optimal outcome from the Aramite Front (Ie no damage to Hilstara, etc) is to not reinforce the Aram border, so that it is hit with the extra seed of Corruption. Then you do NOT reinforce Aram on your first opportunity. You will accumulate a bunch of extra CD for the seed attack and your lower front score, without interfering with your later Aram Front gains that ensure you exceed 34 AF in time to prevent injury to Hilstara. The optimal outcome of the Border incident is a starting score of 7-9, and then below 20 after your first Border Choice. I usually pick the middle option which provides a bunch of extra Aram CD (you get +1 for it, which means that with the seed you have 4 on your initial visit, which causes you to get less initial Aram Front and therefore get extra Aram CD at the start of Aramite Front 2 as well. this lets you exceed 20 while still using the Qum Bomb and picking all the other best outcomes from the Aram conflict (eg inquisition withdrawal, etc) that have lasting statistical benefits. It also makes it easy to handle your army extensions and save them for the situations with the highest long-term stats impact (specifically, 2nd Aram Front for +10, Ardoheim for +social/econ/religion, and the double extension to remove negatives. This lets even folks with less than 200 Army size have 2 extensions remaining at the end of the war in order to do Monster Hunting and Ardan Bandit petitions if you sided with Orilise, which you probably should because Lynine's RP are much easier to increase than Orilise's RP).

Consequently in my experience the best Discretionary Income spending skips Aram Border and Countrywide Mercenaries; if you skip those 2 and you don't have to invest in any chaos or collateral damage cleanups, you can fund a double campaign for nobility approval and buy -every- other Discretionary Income option (focus on the ones that increase Acceptance first, leaving Infrastructure for the final pre-battle 100%). This lets you max your Victory Points for a single 20% investment even if you end the BoY as low as like 15.


With this layout you don't need the last army extension so you don't need Countrywide Mercs, and you actively profit from skipping the Aram Border.

There's an arguument to skip Ardo border as well, as there's some benefit to 10-14 Stineford CD, however, in my experience, it's not worth it because it's not really possible to get Stineford CD that high without some kind of other deleterious outcome (like Ferroholm Deaths), and since you are buying everything else anyway all you gain from saving the 50% is a little bit of ProN during the end-of-war investment phase.

 

[Razor679]

i find this game too hard with the limited exp it almost feals like if you dont 100% the exp gain you will be fucked over in the latter battles and the more exp you miss the more the game stacks agenst you

 

[Goi]

i find this game too hard with the limited exp it almost feals like if you dont 100% the exp gain you will be fucked over in the latter battles and the more exp you miss the more the game stacks aganst you

Even with Level 99 party most of the end game fights read all of chapter 4 onwards are just as hard, I know this cause I used to have a EXP hacked game save. Level is really only super important early game thanks to skill unlocks see maximising EXP games to get the lance Unpeople are weak to before the fight.

note even before that fight they were fights you could still wipe in easily