Movikx

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You need a walkthrough. That's how this game genre (traditional j style rpg) rolls. Get the calculator from the forum too.

And yes, without a walkthrough, there will be ntr and deaths.



There are several *arguable* milfs in this game
well u CAN play without a walkthrough but definetly u will face some bad outcomes or regrets when they appear, some u would need to go back 20 hours of gameplay if u want to change
 

Goi

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Yeah you can beat the game without a walkthrough in fact almost possible I think to beat the game making worst possible choice every time( Won't be pretty) only thing not 100% sure on passing is the final Cohesion check that causes a bad end in the final battle otherwise the rest can be done.

said bad run is also no longer possible in the sense of you can no longer get negative army size and in the future Alina will not be as optional so will also make runs after that change is made better than the current worse choice all the time run

If you want everything you can get or best results in everything you have three main options right now.

1, Thosha Walkthrough
2. Grim walkthrough
3. Download the Calculator and use a word document and spend hours planning a route out that gets you through.

because those are the two most complete walkthroughs that get best results in everything you can with some changes because choice made early on have major effects later
 

tanukk1

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Before I said it's fine without a walkthrough, but I've changed my mind now that I'm a bit further along.

I thought I was reasonably well equipped, but the fight in the Erosian Temple I had to reload 40+ times to get the perfect RNG. If I hadn't used any references, my gear and levels would've been so bad, I think I would've gotten softlocked here.
 
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what was the highest damage u guys ever dealt? mine- 22500~ (simon level 70-85. Precise attack critical in an enemy with weakness to it) why i ask? i like the big numbers hehe
 

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Before I said it's fine without a walkthrough, but I've changed my mind now that I'm a bit further along.

I thought I was reasonably well equipped, but the fight in the Erosian Temple I had to reload 40+ times to get the perfect RNG. If I hadn't used any references, my gear and levels would've been so bad, I think I would've gotten softlocked here.
That right there is . It's an ultimate test of your equipment and stats that's mandatory for the story. The team I used was Riala, Robin, Carina and Vhala. Vhala's offensive debuff is pretty much necessary and you need to target the Reaper and Elite Knight along with the healer. That'll get you some breathing room. Spam AOEs, use Robin to snipe with Bolt then use Riala's sexual AOEs once they're charged. Have Carina use mass heal and if someone dies in the first time, reload.
You can replace Robin with Hilstara, her shield wall combined with the debuffs means they don't damage her. The problem is she doesn't have Aegis Assault at this point yet so you're gimping damage with Rhala being the sole damage dealer with AOEs.
Save 88 is before the fight, with save 89 after.
 

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Honestly even with perfect playthrough that fight is a killer that can cause multiple retrys

then again future runs will be easily in optimised runs when you know what equipment you can buy for said fight since next to no equipment up other than just stuff you get is used in such walkthroughs.

Like Vhala her base Equipment is basically more than good enough save an update to her pin even if you could get more of an upgrade to her now, otherwise equipment is mostly the war Vault stuff which or mostly starting equipment also Robin Unique and the second best pin from Yara quest

 
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Speaking of equipment here is the video vs mine:
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Vhala is okay but I picked up the Sanctity Plate early and along with an assault helm and barrier pin does that bit more damage. I added in the Massive Unbow to my game but you should still get the Lean Unbow when you can. That'll last you till end game, about 11k Sx. I gave the heirloom pin to Aka as that increases her Luck.


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I upgraded Robin with an Assault Rod and I find her using the Unperson charm instead, as the Circlet goes better to Carina I think. Give her the mage cap and robe and you're good.


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Riala I argue is in need of that +25 defense offered by the Sylvan Glove. The vibe gives her mast+ and the Stenai is perfect for her being focused on magic. The vibe can be found in the ruins mid chapter 3. Riala and Qum should never use whips as a rule of thumb, unless you're desperate.

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Carina really needs the Quick Rod and Savant's Cloak. I watched the vid and the +140 with these items make my heals 3,000+ while in the vid they're only doing 1,900. Not to mention that +90 Agi means she can usually heal before an enemy attacks.
You have 170k Sx at this point and I'd argue it's worth spending 21k on the Savant cloak for Carina as that'll carry you through mid chapter 3 when you go to Theltiar to the start of chapter 5 when you can pick up the Saint's Armor for her request.

I could argue item comps all day. At some point, you should buy equipment for characters and not just hoard Sx. Durge axe for Hilstara for example.
 

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Speaking of equipment here is the video vs mine:
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Vhala is okay but I picked up the Sanctity Plate early and along with an assault helm and barrier pin does that bit more damage. I added in the Massive Unbow to my game but you should still get the Lean Unbow when you can. That'll last you till end game, about 11k Sx. I gave the heirloom pin to Aka as that increases her Luck.


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I upgraded Robin with an Assault Rod and I find her using the Unperson charm instead, as the Circlet goes better to Carina I think. Give her the mage cap and robe and you're good.


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Riala I argue is in need of that +25 defense offered by the Sylvan Glove. The vibe gives her mast+ and the Stenai is perfect for her being focused on magic. The vibe can be found in the ruins mid chapter 3. Riala and Qum should never use whips as a rule of thumb, unless you're desperate.

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Carina really needs the Quick Rod and Savant's Cloak. I watched the vid and the +140 with these items make my heals 3,000+ while in the vid they're only doing 1,900. Not to mention that +90 Agi means she can usually heal before an enemy attacks.
You have 170k Sx at this point and I'd argue it's worth spending 21k on the Savant cloak for Carina as that'll carry you through mid chapter 3 when you go to Theltiar to the start of chapter 5 when you can pick up the Saint's Armor for her request.

I could argue item comps all day. At some point, you should buy equipment for characters and not just hoard Sx. Durge axe for Hilstara for example.
yeah and that Video is from a max optimised Playthrough by the way but yeah once we get around to spending Sx through out the run to make life easier because right now optimised playthrough do not spend Sx(save for Unique and 2 buttplugs) until like jut before the final battle(which does mean they go through a lot of chapter 4 and most of chapter 5 without getting the Vhala BIS weapon from the Unperosn base in Aram you visit during the fucklord first invasion and after can visit at will)

Yeah the Lean Unbow or massive Unbow are her BIS weapon at endgame and you can get it before that fight, can also get the Aarm or Unperson glove upgrade from the same store depending on certain results through the game(Aarm for sure) though said gloves are newer to the game because Seirra was like yeah having Vhala BIS Off-hand being her starter Equipment is kind of silly so added a few new ones.

for instance in this case the reason Riala does not have the Zir vibrator is Qum has that but yeah Carina really is suffering due to having just the dregs you have left from what you pick up and Unique equipment, why she is still using her starter staff because others are using the better equipment.

Like I would argue the Elegant Whip is better than most of the Sex toy option for Riala because +50 Mag is better than most of them save two, Heavy duty with a negative to defence stats and Agility for the same magic(and have to buy it) or the Zir which is better but also way better on Qum.

Of course the real thing you would give Riala likely give her is a master staff which you are likely to buy early on because +75 Mag that early is a very nice thing to have( could also give quick or Assault rod but maybe less likely to buy)

But yeah buying Equipment can easily give better equipment for fights than even the optimised runs have
 
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Movikx

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i got liquid sex but yarra dont say anything about it, how exactly to make the first slut pin?
 

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Yep you have to Invest in Premium Steel and then when you enter it you get a scene of discussing making Unique equipment and Yara shows up there asking to make it even before you get the Liquid sex if you invest early, Also where you get info on a few other Unique equipment
 
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I believe you must invest in Premium Steel (the blacksmith in Ari-Yhilina merchant district), then talk to Yarra in that shop.
i invested only the 100k pron, i believe there was another option but i only did the 100k, is that the issue? i already did varia blades and orcsphere there but yarra keps saying "i need a sexual something and powerful arcane mages " or something like that, btw qum also is still thinking
 

tanukk1

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Sounds like there is some investment requirement then, perhaps the Arcane/Sexual Agreement (either by discretionary funding in Act 3, or using ProN in the slum house of petitions later). This is undocumented in the wiki though.
 

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i got liquid sex but yarra dont say anything about it, how exactly to make the first slut pin?
you need to trigger yhilin final.

Sounds like there is some investment requirement then, perhaps the Arcane/Sexual Agreement (either by discretionary funding in Act 3, or using ProN in the slum house of petitions later). This is undocumented in the wiki though.
you only require the premium steel investment, trigger yhilin final and have a liquid sex.
 
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This one going for hours for me, very entertaining and MC is just what I wanted to see
But reading this forum makes we wonder
There will be some very tough moments, huh?
 

Movikx

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you need to trigger yhilin final.



you only require the premium steel investment, trigger yhilin final and have a liquid sex.
yeah looks like like its the yhilin final im missing for a bunch of things, but i think its too late now
 

mahligl

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There will be some very tough moments, huh?
It depends, but yeah, kinda. Nothing that can't be helped, though, it is not a very difficult game, although you may look for walkthroughs when you encounter something tricky. And if you're talking about the story, then the answer is more or less the same. The amount of story variables is enormous, and they stuck, changing events further along the line, but I'd say that if you're thorough, then you're good to go in general. It is probably a good habit to check the wiki from time to time.
 

Dmonk66

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I have an problem that I need help with. So I may have cheated and am unable to fight Death. It just gives me a sword. What do I need to change in the save editor(I use RPGMakerSaveEdit) to fix this? I only gave myself some healing items since the fights up to that point have been so difficult. If anyone knows how to fix, it please show me because I don't want to start over again. It took me a week to get to this point! Outside of giving myself healing items, I've been following
Thosha's playthrough, so if I'm unable to fix this could someone upload a save to right before the fight with Death?
 
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I have an problem that I need help with. So I may have cheated and am unable to fight Death. It just gives me a sword. What do I need to change in the save editor(I use RPGMakerSaveEdit) to fix this? I only gave myself some healing items since the fights up to that point have been so difficult. If anyone knows how to fix, it please show me because I don't want to start over again. It took me a week to get to this point! Outside of giving myself healing items, I've been following
Thosha's playthrough, so if I'm unable to fix this could someone upload a save to right before the fight with Death?
Go to Thosha's playthrough and download the appropriate save file :)
 
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