Dmonk66

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Go to Thosha's playthrough and download the appropriate save file :)
I already checked the list of saves, and non of them are at the exact point that I'm at as far as I can tell. There are like 10 or more for the section that I'm at, and the list doesn't tell where and when each one of those saves are at. I have already finished a bunch of quests before reaching this point, and I DO NOT want to fight that gauntlet of monsters again. I just need either a save set just before the fight with death, or (preferably) a way to fix my save file. This wouldn't be a problem if the game had a difficulty setting for fights, for those of us that only want to enjoy the story and artwork. I know that the developer has been putting a lot of hard work into this game, but not everyone likes this level of difficulty. Some of us would like to casually enjoy the story of the game, myself especially.
 
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Dmonk66

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If the difficulty level's challenging, just cheat Sx and Pron for future reference. I suck at gaming in general and breezed past this game with all the best equipment/unlimited potions
The problem (as far as I can tell) is that any kind of cheating renders me unable to fight this particular enemy (Death itself). Since I don't know what the game is keeping track of for this, I have no idea how to fix it. Instead of fighting Death, it skips the fight entirely. This keeps me from getting the a new member for the harem. This is why I am asking for help. It took me about a week (with cheats) to get to this point, and I really do not want repeat the entire game on what I consider hardcore mode. If cheating with better gear and potions is what is screwing me over, then this anti-cheat mechanic is bs. Once again, not everyone enjoys a grind fest of either RNG or strategy for a gauntlet of bosses with little to no healing options (limited items/mana). I don't want to seem like a jerk, but I have put a lot of time into this (even with cheats).
 

TheNamed

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What would you suggest as an alternative reward for those players that legitimately completed all the optional challenge sections?
 

Fulminato

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I have an problem that I need help with. So I may have cheated and am unable to fight Death. It just gives me a sword. What do I need to change in the save editor(I use RPGMakerSaveEdit) to fix this? I only gave myself some healing items since the fights up to that point have been so difficult. If anyone knows how to fix, it please show me because I don't want to start over again. It took me a week to get to this point! Outside of giving myself healing items, I've been following
Thosha's playthrough, so if I'm unable to fix this could someone upload a save to right before the fight with Death?
condition allowing the last memeber

Complete Gauntlet in Incubus Prison
Complete 5M dungeon...
...not in chapter 5
Have Resolved Riala Petition in Conference Chamber in 3AW aftermath (both fund the petiton or be out of resource)
Open the Incubus Helm Chest in "War Vault Map" after the Ardford Summit
Open the Chest with the Ancient Incubus King in Deep Cache (even if the armor is blocked by other condition)
Sx < 300,000: Not Cheat to many Sx
ProN < 10,000,000: Not Cheat to many ProN
Simon Level < 110: Not Cheat Simon Level (max legit ~ 105/106)
Shining Swords in Inventary < 52: |Not Cheat to many Shining Sword
Super Sword NOT in Inventary: Not Obtained the Last Shining Sword reward before was legit reach 50 swords


The problem (as far as I can tell) is that any kind of cheating renders me unable to fight this particular enemy (Death itself). Since I don't know what the game is keeping track of for this, I have no idea how to fix it. Instead of fighting Death, it skips the fight entirely. This keeps me from getting the a new member for the harem. This is why I am asking for help. It took me about a week (with cheats) to get to this point, and I really do not want repeat the entire game on what I consider hardcore mode. If cheating with better gear and potions is what is screwing me over, then this anti-cheat mechanic is bs. Once again, not everyone enjoys a grind fest of either RNG or strategy for a gauntlet of bosses with little to no healing options (limited items/mana). I don't want to seem like a jerk, but I have put a lot of time into this (even with cheats).
the check is done the first time you reach the island. you can cheating your value under the treshold just befor starting her quest.
the game don't has any way to track if you cheated some value. so you can give you the money you ne3ed for the purschase and remain under the treshold
 
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Movikx

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so i have a question i played the game with no guide and yeah, missed a lot of things, so i was thinking playing again from the start, strictly following the guide, will i be able buy everything for the best while also keeping the best outcome of things or even with the guide some big sacrifices are needed?
 

Dmonk66

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Nov 21, 2018
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so i have a question i played the game with no guide and yeah, missed a lot of things, so i was thinking playing again from the start, strictly following the guide, will i be able buy everything for the best while also keeping the best outcome of things or even with the guide some big sacrifices are needed?
The best guide that I've been using is Throsha's, which you can find on the Last Sovereign wiki. This is the most "optimized" guide, in that it will help you get as close to the best results possible.
 
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marcx666

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This, and she even tells you when you can buy optional gear, which you can buy and then add the price back using a save editor without messing anything up.
 
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Dmonk66

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It turns out that something messed up, and I have to start my entire game over again. Could someone at least tell me if cheating in healing items would trigger the anti-cheat mechanic? I need all of the help I can get, even with a guide. Since most of the later fights focus on RNG, my unlucky ass needs a metric ton of health and mana recovery items.
 

Fulminato

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It turns out that something messed up, and I have to start my entire game over again. Could someone at least tell me if cheating in healing items would trigger the anti-cheat mechanic? I need all of the help I can get, even with a guide. Since most of the later fights focus on RNG, my unlucky ass needs a metric ton of health and mana recovery items.
condition allowing the last memeber

Complete Gauntlet in Incubus Prison
Complete 5M dungeon...
...not in chapter 5
Have Resolved Riala Petition in Conference Chamber in 3AW aftermath (both fund the petiton or be out of resource)
Open the Incubus Helm Chest in "War Vault Map" after the Ardford Summit
Open the Chest with the Ancient Incubus King in Deep Cache (even if the armor is blocked by other condition)
Sx < 300,000: Not Cheat to many Sx
ProN < 10,000,000: Not Cheat to many ProN
Simon Level < 110: Not Cheat Simon Level (max legit ~ 105/106)
Shining Swords in Inventary < 52: |Not Cheat to many Shining Sword
Super Sword NOT in Inventary: Not Obtained the Last Shining Sword reward before was legit reach 50 swords
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marcx666

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basically you can cheat health potions and mana potions, and follow throshas guide, and buy the optional stuff she says and add the gil amount, just dont overdo it, and some fights and stuff you are meant to fail otherwise it knows you are cheating.
 

Dmonk66

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This list isn't relevant anymore, as I have to start over. I guess I'm not allowed to give myself stronger equipment, or possibly something else I did messed it up and I can't fix it through the save editor. Seriously though, would giving myself healing items trigger the anti-cheat mechanic? I would like to know before I start over, as I'm taking a break from this game for a bit.
 

marcx666

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Jan 7, 2018
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This list isn't relevant anymore, as I have to start over. I guess I'm not allowed to give myself stronger equipment, or possibly something else I did messed it up and I can't fix it through the save editor. Seriously though, would giving myself healing items trigger the anti-cheat mechanic? I would like to know before I start over, as I'm taking a break from this game for a bit.
Like ive said, you can add heath and mana potions fine, follow throsha guide, buy the optional gear if you want and cheat the money back. But be aware some fights you are supposed to lose, hence following the guide.
 
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This list isn't relevant anymore, as I have to start over. I guess I'm not allowed to give myself stronger equipment, or possibly something else I did messed it up and I can't fix it through the save editor. Seriously though, would giving myself healing items trigger the anti-cheat mechanic? I would like to know before I start over, as I'm taking a break from this game for a bit.
Only cheat Sx and PRON if you don't want to screw your save. Game is more than easy with it.



Keep in mind that at certain points you will need to lower your Sx and PRON momentarily so you do not get caught in anti-cheating measures.
 
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Movikx

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This list isn't relevant anymore, as I have to start over. I guess I'm not allowed to give myself stronger equipment, or possibly something else I did messed it up and I can't fix it through the save editor. Seriously though, would giving myself healing items trigger the anti-cheat mechanic? I would like to know before I start over, as I'm taking a break from this game for a bit.
also cant u just try? i mean backup the saves folder in a entirely different folder than use your cheats for some time, then go back if needed, and u dont really need all that potion i would say having 10h/10m/10revival potions at all times is more or less what u need, remember some enemies u need a specific way to defeat then, so if u are dealing (3-100) in some strong enemies something is off, and of course, careful if u are trying to win something u shouldnt
 

Movikx

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The best guide that I've been using is Throsha's, which you can find on the Last Sovereign wiki. This is the most "optimized" guide, in that it will help you get as close to the best results possible.
the Throsha's u are saying is the one in the first page here right? didnt see the name "Throsha" there
 

Dmonk66

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Nov 21, 2018
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Like ive said, you can add heath and mana potions fine, follow throsha guide, buy the optional gear if you want and cheat the money back. But be aware some fights you are supposed to lose, hence following the guide.
I already knew about the "losing" fights, I just needed to know if adding recovery potions was safe or not. I'll do just that when I get back to playing it. Sorry if I seem to be annoying with all of my posts, but the difficulty curve in chapter 5 hit me hard. Even with following the guide, RNG does not favor me in the slightest. Needing to recover in massive dungeons, but being unable to because I'm out of items and unable to leave is a serious problem of mine.
 

marcx666

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I already knew about the "losing" fights, I just needed to know if adding recovery potions was safe or not. I'll do just that when I get back to playing it. Sorry if I seem to be annoying with all of my posts, but the difficulty curve in chapter 5 hit me hard. Even with following the guide, RNG does not favor me in the slightest. Needing to recover in massive dungeons, but being unable to because I'm out of items and unable to leave is a serious problem of mine.
 

Dmonk66

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the Throsha's u are saying is the one in the first page here right? didnt see the name "Throsha" there
The guide on the first page is more "complex." The one you are looking is on the same site, though. Just look for "Throsha's playthrough" in the search bar, and you should get it. This particular guide is much easier to follow than the other one, in my opinion.
 

Fulminato

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This list isn't relevant anymore, as I have to start over. I guess I'm not allowed to give myself stronger equipment, or possibly something else I did messed it up and I can't fix it through the save editor. Seriously though, would giving myself healing items trigger the anti-cheat mechanic? I would like to know before I start over, as I'm taking a break from this game for a bit.
this list it's the only relevant list. it's ripped from the game file directly.
you see any check about potion? any (real) equipement?
no and no. so it don't make a gram of difference if you have 9999 healing potion or 0 with you.
the same with the rest. if you hit the anti cheat mean you don't obtain all the item legit, you have cheated simon's level or you have to much currency when you reach the island. and nothing more.
 
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