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Lolicon Kami

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Okay, great game and all. But some fights are extremely unbalanced and dependent on RNG too much.

I'm looking at you Erosia, what the heck was that last stand?
Eh, wasn't too hard. If too hard, optimize or cheat money :)

Easy to bypass the anti-cheating requirements:
 

Lolicon Kami

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I hate that a single-player game has anti-cheat...

Even if it's as complex as this one
Why? The plot is part of the game, too much cheating literally breaks the plot (like impossible investments, for example).

And a little bit of cheating to make all battles fairly beatable without RNG isn't punished.
 

Slub

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I meant not skipping investments, but selecting the most useless at this stage. Like investing in a shrine, city beautification, and the flower trade at the end of ch1.

Regarding examples of dumb decisions, it is probably whoring Qum, extorting money from Megail, annoying Esthera, and going after slimes in timed sections of ch 2.
Interesting read. On my first playthrough, I had to restart because I skipped too many monsters in the beginning and was too weak as a consequence. The second time, I did quests in the city and by the time Robin (?) joined, her level was too low compared to the rest. That‘s when I quit the game because it seemed like you ought to play exactly like the developer envisioned.
 
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Goi

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Levels are not super important for power, lower levels matter a bit more because skill unlocks but even then doesn’t really change things much.

Robin recruitment quest gets her ready to be a very good party member because mage so able to attack element weaknesses, doing that near the end does mean she will take longer to be one of the best but that will happen anyway because entire party gets XP

really all getting Robin last is she takes a bit longer to get to her lances which means really the second optional thing will be harder(because will be further into that before getting a lance) and a second almost unnoticeable trick of not getting her third lance in time for a boss that is weak to said thing, isn’t needed for them and requires literally XP maxing on her.

like it is possible to get through the game and get every worst outcome including Level checks(tho that is a bit higher than no enemies killed because catch up mechanics are included and have been checked for lower level) all the way to the ending.
 

Ner0nitas

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Interesting read. On my first playthrough, I had to restart because I skipped too many monsters in the beginning and was too weak as a consequence. The second time, I did quests in the city and by the time Robin (?) joined, her level was too low compared to the rest. That‘s when I quit the game because it seemed like you ought to play exactly like the developer envisioned.
I don't remember this moment when she joined... but is the lower level even a problem?
This isn't the only time that someone joins your party while being underleveled.
But as far as I noticed, she could die just as easy as chars nearly 15 levels higher.
Aside from learning skills, levels don't mean THAT much.

If you think a stat is lacking for someone, balance it out with equipment.
If you get destroyed in a battle, change your strategy.

I'd say the dev envisioned that everyone plays how he/she wants, giving a fair bit of leeway here and there.
Some optional areas can be tricky, together with some bosses.
But I'm at a point where I couldn't care less if someone misses out on XP, cause I've beaten everything before recruiting said char.
And with how the XP distribution works, lower level char catch up fairly quickly.
 

Lolicon Kami

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Interesting read. On my first playthrough, I had to restart because I skipped too many monsters in the beginning and was too weak as a consequence. The second time, I did quests in the city and by the time Robin (?) joined, her level was too low compared to the rest. That‘s when I quit the game because it seemed like you ought to play exactly like the developer envisioned.
Too bad it wasn't your cup of tea. You're right; this game is created in the traditionally JRPG style, so you need a walkthrough to play :)

Glad to see you're trying to find a game that suits your needs instead of just complaining on here, like a certain someone...
 
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I saw in the itch io that its status is in development but here it is tagged as finished!So,which is true?(Mannn,I really like to play completed games:cry:)
 

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Too bad it wasn't your cup of tea. You're right; this game is created in the traditionally JRPG style, so you need a walkthrough to play :)

Glad to see you're trying to find a game that suits your needs instead of just complaining on here, like a certain someone...
Not gonna lie, I am tempted to give it another shot after reading the latest replies, especially your suggestion regarding cheating money if equipment can bridge the gaps for people that don‘t use a guide

I don't remember this moment when she joined... but is the lower level even a problem?
This isn't the only time that someone joins your party while being underleveled.
But as far as I noticed, she could die just as easy as chars nearly 15 levels higher.
Aside from learning skills, levels don't mean THAT much.

If you think a stat is lacking for someone, balance it out with equipment.
If you get destroyed in a battle, change your strategy.

I'd say the dev envisioned that everyone plays how he/she wants, giving a fair bit of leeway here and there.
Some optional areas can be tricky, together with some bosses.
But I'm at a point where I couldn't care less if someone misses out on XP, cause I've beaten everything before recruiting said char.
And with how the XP distribution works, lower level char catch up fairly quickly.
Honestly, I couldn’t tell whether it’s an issue in the long run. It‘s been over a year, so I don‘t recall how much further I got, but I did get stuck because of it - unless I missed something else.

With that said, I kept the game on my watchlist and after reading your replies about equipment and cheating money helping out in the short run, as well as game mechanics balancing things in the long run, it does pique my interest. Thank you both
 
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mahligl

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I saw in the itch io that its status is in development but here it is tagged as finished!So,which is true?(Mannn,I really like to play completed games:cry:)
The story is finished. There'll probably be some tinkering, also adding some static art to the sex scenes later in the game, which are now entirely verbal.
 

Goi

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There is a few small projects like don’t save the princess that is in progress( can see exact amount of progress in the kickstarter)

a few other projects were talked about but none have been announced publicly in full can see names of two of them by looking at Patron posts titles where they talked about a few of them both things they might be thinking of and such
 

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Anyone knows what is in Sierra's latest post?
Wanted to start playing the completed version but if there is still something planned outside images for the 1.0.0 i'll wait.
 

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I last played this game years ago and have a 37hour save in it. Now that it is finished I would like to play it again from the start. Is there any form of NewGame+? I would rather my 37hour save give me something at least :/.
 
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Ner0nitas

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Minor changes:
Altina will no longer be optional, there will be some way to make yarra not have sex with orcs because Sierra is sick of NTR whiners, and the art
There is also:
"Adding investments that "rubber band" ProN returns a little: these will not appear for optimized saves, but will reduce how far behind unoptimized players fall. I will make a whole post about this later."

Seems like a weird thing to add.

Like, the game checks your investments and if you play in a certain way, the game presents you with (maybe) easy-to-spot safe investments or so.
Of course, just a speculation, but still an interesting addition.
 

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I last played this game years ago and have a 37hour save in it. Now that it is finished I would like to play it again from the start. Is there any form of NewGame+? I would rather my 37hour save give me something at least :/.
No and there's no plan for one.
 
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Lolicon Kami

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I last played this game years ago and have a 37hour save in it. Now that it is finished I would like to play it again from the start. Is there any form of NewGame+? I would rather my 37hour save give me something at least :/.
You can always just continue where you started off?
 
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