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Johngalt52

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Thank you very much for your news.
Well, as it is special post for patrons only, that only patrons can read it. But it`s really really new marked January, 14, 2025.
There is no way you are trying to be condescending to someone about not subscribing to a scammer, Patreon. I bet you are really fun to be around at parties. Scratch that, I bet you never get invited to parties.
 

Sanjimelorine

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There is no way you are trying to be condescending to someone about not subscribing to a scammer, Patreon. I bet you are really fun to be around at parties. Scratch that, I bet you never get invited to parties.
Relax, if I got offended by stuff like that I would be picking fights left and right. Thanks for the support though. I mentioned once that I used to be a sub on their patreon but I got off it as soon as I saw they are scammers.
 

Papallymo

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I am always a bit surprised about the half completed games. This one is pretty good, the humor, the art, the plot and story. If they finish it it would be a big cash cow for years to come. It would convince people to contribute because they finished an enjoyable project. If they would start another project, loads would support. Now many, perhaps the majority, throw them in the scammer/milker category. That is a real shame, i remember one of the developers had some health problems. But that is also an often used excuse to postpone and milk a few more months.
I know it is off topic and probably this will get removed. But i really hope this team will complete this. If they are a bit more transparant about the development, i would not even mind supporting them, that is how much appreciation i have for their work.
 
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Scotty1212

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I am always a bit surprised about the half completed games. This one is pretty good, the humor, the art, the plot and story. If they finish it it would be a big cash cow for years to come. It would convince people to contribute because they finished an enjoyable project. If they would start another project, loads would support. Now many, perhaps the majority, throw them in the scammer/milker category. That is a real shame, i remember one of the developers had some health problems. But that is also an often used excuse to postpone and milk a few more months.
I know it is off topic and probably this will get removed. But i really hope this team will complete this. If they are a bit more transparant about the development, i would not even mind supporting them, that is how much appreciation i have for their work.
They have no ideas how to finish it. Took fans ideas and implemented in the game, not even thank you credits.
If not the fan base, this game would be as flat as a board...
 
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Sergiv2001

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Relax, if I got offended by stuff like that I would be picking fights left and right. Thanks for the support though. I mentioned once that I used to be a sub on their patreon but I got off it as soon as I saw they are scammers.
It`s not so simple as one can see.

There is text from one of Latissa`s pages (not from Patreon, but also for payment donors - 62 subscribers in total on that site):

Привет, друзья! Я художница, а еще я занимаюсь созданием "взрослых" игр. Если вы уже играли в «Library Story», то знаете, о чём идет речь. Если нет, самое время попробовать. У меня много планов по этой игре и заготовок для других проектов, но у меня мало времени на это, ведь приходится заниматься основной (далеко не такой интересной) работой и прочей рутиной. Поддерживая меня, вы, фактически, дарите мне это время. Спасибо, это очень мило!
Было бы здорово реализовать возможность использовать только наши проекты. Тем, что мне интересно, а не то, что надо делать ради работы для начальства и заказчиков. Поэтому я очень благодарна вам, мои подписчики, ведь вы приближаете меня к осуществлению этого пожелания. В свою очередь, вы получите больше арта, контента, да просто игры в целом! Вот такое взаимовыгодное сотрудничество.

Hello, friends! I am an artist, and I also create "adult" games. If you have already played "Library Story", then you know what I am talking about. If not, it's high time to try. I have many plans for this game and preparations for other projects, but I have little time for this, because I have to do my main (not so interesting) work and other routine. Support me, you, in fact, give me this time. Thank you, this is very nice!
It would be great to implement the ability to use only our projects. What interests me, and not what needs to be done for the sake of work for the boss and official customers. Therefore, I am very grateful to you, my subscribers, for responding to my wishes. In turn, you will get more art, content, and just games in general! This is such a mutually beneficial cooperation.

So she says that has another job and can`t do the game as all-time work.
Is she scummer or not, everyone decides himself, as I suppose, sorry.
 

dizzynest

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It`s not so simple as one can see.

There is text from one of Latissa`s pages (not from Patreon, but also for payment donors - 62 subscribers in total on that site):

Привет, друзья! Я художница, а еще я занимаюсь созданием "взрослых" игр. Если вы уже играли в «Library Story», то знаете, о чём идет речь. Если нет, самое время попробовать. У меня много планов по этой игре и заготовок для других проектов, но у меня мало времени на это, ведь приходится заниматься основной (далеко не такой интересной) работой и прочей рутиной. Поддерживая меня, вы, фактически, дарите мне это время. Спасибо, это очень мило!
Было бы здорово реализовать возможность использовать только наши проекты. Тем, что мне интересно, а не то, что надо делать ради работы для начальства и заказчиков. Поэтому я очень благодарна вам, мои подписчики, ведь вы приближаете меня к осуществлению этого пожелания. В свою очередь, вы получите больше арта, контента, да просто игры в целом! Вот такое взаимовыгодное сотрудничество.

Hello, friends! I am an artist, and I also create "adult" games. If you have already played "Library Story", then you know what I am talking about. If not, it's high time to try. I have many plans for this game and preparations for other projects, but I have little time for this, because I have to do my main (not so interesting) work and other routine. Support me, you, in fact, give me this time. Thank you, this is very nice!
It would be great to implement the ability to use only our projects. What interests me, and not what needs to be done for the sake of work for the boss and official customers. Therefore, I am very grateful to you, my subscribers, for responding to my wishes. In turn, you will get more art, content, and just games in general! This is such a mutually beneficial cooperation.

So she says that has another job and can`t do the game as all-time work.
Is she scummer or not, everyone decides himself, as I suppose, sorry.
They started this game 10 years ago. Ten years. There have been loads of part time developers creating games in that time.
 

Sergiv2001

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Akabur produced 5 full games in the time that these two developers have been working on this 1 renpy project
Well, if Akabur`s Princess Trainer, Witch Trainer and StarChannel34 are exactly finished, so the 0.95 release of Library Story maden about two years ago (if i remember correctly) can be named finished version of the game IMHO. And what was the 4th and 5th Akabur` s games, I don` t remember?
 
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dizzynest

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Well, if Akabur`s Princess Trainer, Witch Trainer and StarChannel34 are exactly finished, so the 0.95 release of Library Story maden about two years ago (if i remember correctly) can be named finished version of the game IMHO. And what was the 4th and 5th Akabur` s games, I don` t remember?
Mating Season and Queen Trainer are the other two. All of these games are at 1.0 or higher
 

Sergiv2001

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Princess Trainer, Witch Trainer, Magic Shop, Broken Heart Bordello and Star Channel 34.
Well, as I know, Magic Shop is mostly unfinished and Broken Heart Bordello is broken, so, as I suppose, Akabur isn`t mush more better then Latissa& Xaljio :) Maybe love of tricks is the common feature of the most of the russian devs, who knows? :)
 

dizzynest

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Well, as I know, Magic Shop is mostly unfinished and Broken Heart Bordello is broken, so, as I suppose, Akabur isn`t mush more better then Latissa& Xaljio :) Maybe love of tricks is the common feature of the most of the russian devs, who knows? :)
So in terms of whataboutism, you're comparing 2 developers using renpy who have been working on one game for 10 years and this is their result to one developer who has made 5 games in the same time span. Latissa and Xaljio are scamming and stalling their development. I supported both of them for almost 6 months at the top tier of their patreon.

There is no need to defend these two developers. You're honestly sounding almost exactly like Latissa did in her DM's to me that led me to pull my support of their project.
 

Sergiv2001

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So in terms of whataboutism, you're comparing 2 developers using renpy who have been working on one game for 10 years and this is their result to one developer who has made 5 games in the same time span. Latissa and Xaljio are scamming and stalling their development. I supported both of them for almost 6 months at the top tier of their patreon.

There is no need to defend these two developers. You're honestly sounding almost exactly like Latissa did in her DM's to me that led me to pull my support of their project.
Yes, I am. I`m declaring that the Akabur was the first russian dev who put some of his games on pause, and the others was only following his example. And I don`t defend Latissa&Xaljio, I`m not their lawer at all.
 

Sergiv2001

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At this point, you defend them so much you might as well be part of the dev team. You might be them for all I know.
I`m neither painter nor programmer so I`m absolutly useless for them :) As for scenario writer option, they have so many ideas for it that highly likely lost the sence of reality and IMHO became produce game for itself not for players :(
 

Sanjimelorine

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It`s not so simple as one can see.

There is text from one of Latissa`s pages (not from Patreon, but also for payment donors - 62 subscribers in total on that site):

Привет, друзья! Я художница, а еще я занимаюсь созданием "взрослых" игр. Если вы уже играли в «Library Story», то знаете, о чём идет речь. Если нет, самое время попробовать. У меня много планов по этой игре и заготовок для других проектов, но у меня мало времени на это, ведь приходится заниматься основной (далеко не такой интересной) работой и прочей рутиной. Поддерживая меня, вы, фактически, дарите мне это время. Спасибо, это очень мило!
Было бы здорово реализовать возможность использовать только наши проекты. Тем, что мне интересно, а не то, что надо делать ради работы для начальства и заказчиков. Поэтому я очень благодарна вам, мои подписчики, ведь вы приближаете меня к осуществлению этого пожелания. В свою очередь, вы получите больше арта, контента, да просто игры в целом! Вот такое взаимовыгодное сотрудничество.

Hello, friends! I am an artist, and I also create "adult" games. If you have already played "Library Story", then you know what I am talking about. If not, it's high time to try. I have many plans for this game and preparations for other projects, but I have little time for this, because I have to do my main (not so interesting) work and other routine. Support me, you, in fact, give me this time. Thank you, this is very nice!
It would be great to implement the ability to use only our projects. What interests me, and not what needs to be done for the sake of work for the boss and official customers. Therefore, I am very grateful to you, my subscribers, for responding to my wishes. In turn, you will get more art, content, and just games in general! This is such a mutually beneficial cooperation.

So she says that has another job and can`t do the game as all-time work.
Is she scummer or not, everyone decides himself, as I suppose, sorry.
Fun fact, I happen to be an artist that worked on 2D animation along with other projects. Video clips, trailers, game concept arts, and pixel art etc. Just so you know, the work needed (scetching, drawing, coloring) for each frame as well as the background behind it (that I put as an extra just because I want to prove you wrong at the worst case scenario that there's simply TOO MUCH work) is about 1-2 weeks at the VERY max, to finish (an animation of their ability, which is extremely simplistic, very few frames and stationary poses that don't change). I used to work solo or with a team of 4-5 people. I give them 2-3 days for sound, and the rest for the programming. 1 month would be a lot more than enough to produce this quality of finished product.

Plus, I used to be a patron of them as well, not top tier such as others but I gave them a little something. I stopped the moment I saw this ridiculous postponing. You can still be their patron if you wish, or believe what you will about their work and doings. But please don't try to convince others that they are not scamming people. It is pretty straightforward at this point.
 
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