VN Ren'Py The Lusanti Chronicles [Ch.3 v1.03] [Grumpy Old Aussie]

[MiltonPowers]

I do hope that Livvy will stay in the Harem.



There were several "I want More" options. Are they ONLY to avoid the Lewd scenes, or is there more to them?

I ask because I avoided them all, and plan to continue to, unless there's some GOOD reason to follow them.

As far as I recall, the only sex scene I said No to, was at the Brothel.

Peace

In some cases if you do the "I want more" and show you are serious about a relationship as opposed to a quick fuck (Jacinta/Kamaria I remember, maybe others) you get more love points with them than if you have the lewd.

 

[jadepaladin]

I do hope that Livvy will stay in the Harem.



There were several "I want More" options. Are they ONLY to avoid the Lewd scenes, or is there more to them?

I ask because I avoided them all, and plan to continue to, unless there's some GOOD reason to follow them.

As far as I recall, the only sex scene I said No to, was at the Brothel.

Peace

I chose to stay with Livvy instead of picking one of the fruit tree whores at the brothel and when I reloaded a spare save to see what I missed out on, I was surprised.

 

[Juerhullycin]

- This is a story for ADULTS. You know, people that are grown ups? People that understand that EVERYONE has an history. People that are capable of understanding that EVERYONE makes mistakes. So, empathy, intellectual honesty and comprehension are absolutely required skills to understand and follow this story, or, as we call it, Adulthood.
- If you are expecting ONLY virginal and inexperienced Love Interests, please, move on. This includes characters that :: Gasp :: behave like Humans.

its funny how that argument only ever comes up if people need to defend whores and sluts

at this point its just another case of coded language.

just say you like sluts and whores and be done with it

 

[Pixillin']

its funny how that argument only ever comes up if people need to defend whores and sluts

at this point its just another case of coded language.

just say you like sluts and whores and be done with it

Sorry, whores and sluts is not the same thing as "people who have had sex before". That's what he's saying, grownups know this. It's surprising today to find a woman who is of legal age and doesn't already have a sexual history of some kind, it was even more rare in the Medieval era (it was rare to find someone 18 who was unmarried - although I acknowledge that this is a alternate universe medieval world.)

 

[Juerhullycin]

Sorry, whores and sluts is not the same thing as "people who have had sex before". That's what he's saying, grownups know this. It's surprising today to find a woman who is of legal age and doesn't already have a sexual history of some kind, it was even more rare in the Medieval era (it was rare to find someone 18 who was unmarried - although I acknowledge that this is a alternate universe medieval world.)

we all know that if we search those terms on this site that the overwhelming majority of characters who are defended that way are either sluts, whores or another type of sexworker. You can add as many words to it as you want, it won't change the fact that nobody talks about realism till the sex life of a virtual woman needs defending.

 

[MiltonPowers]

its funny how that argument only ever comes up if people need to defend whores and sluts

at this point its just another case of coded language.

just say you like sluts and whores and be done with it

Just to clarify before new players think that this game is full of sluts and whores.

Of the 4 LIs, 1 is a confirmed virgin. With 2 others it hasn't been discussed, but I am pretty sure they are virgins too. And the 4th is 300 years old.

The one SIDE GIRL you are referring to, you can completely avoid sex scenes (turn down - doesn't happen) and before the end of Chapter 1 tell her to get lost if you choose.

The other 2 Side girls you can currently have sex with have had 1 partner only in the past.

It is hardly a game of sluts & whores.

 

[Pixillin']

we all know that if we search those terms on this site that the overwhelming majority of characters who are defended that way are either sluts, whores or another type of sexworker. You can add as many words to it as you want, it won't change the fact that nobody talks about realism till the sex life of a virtual woman needs defending.

Well, I don't think you know what you're talking about in this case, but sluts and whores can be a lot of fun too (and "other kinds of sex workers" of course - don't want to forget them) - in and out of bed.

 

[catnapper]

With the possible exception of the three women in the brotherl, none of the women you meet in this game could be described as "whores or sluts". Certainly not Olivia - she is the victim of abuse by a sex predator, who uses magic/potions to get women to submit to him and, who uses rape, mutilation and slavery to punish those who resist.
To call Olivia a "whore or slut" is just peak incel thinking.

 

[FatGiant]

its funny how that argument only ever comes up if people need to defend whores and sluts

at this point its just another case of coded language.

just say you like sluts and whores and be done with it

Yes. Ok. Yes.

BUT...

It's also funny how the argument of women being sluts or whores, only ever come out when you want to defend some male "right" to never be compared.

At this point, it is exactly a coded language used by insecure males.

Just say you are afraid to be compared and lose in the comparison and be done with it.

Peace

 

[newdawn75]

well for me I dont see full meltdown so much as an "I need space" reaction... as a duke and a prince, you dont let the underlings see you cry/vulnerable/weak or anything other than totally in control. The poses and facial expressions in this game are so hyper exaggerated its hard to really pin down anything based on that alone. Theres also the idea that its someone new we havent 'seen' but our character knows, but imo this doesnt feel right either. Guess we'll just have to see eh

There is another side girl he slept with that also is a long time friend to mc that it could be which is rebecca, she dresses that way as well. If it is gwen I don't understand why kill off a newly pregnant lover to mc?

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

So, if you go for a harem option, can you be selective and just get the points to have Charlotte & Lydia (for example)? or you can only have 1 or 5?

It's complicated.

There were several "I want More" options. Are they ONLY to avoid the Lewd scenes, or is there more to them?
Peace

Partially. Hopefully, in the next couple of chapters, those choices should make more sense. It's not a deal breaker either way.

The only decision that impacts the rest of the story at this stage, is the one to take Livvy or not. Although, starting the paths gives a serious LI point boost. As more chapters are added, the more decisions will effect the game content going forward.

 

[LemonTree 83]

There is another side girl he slept with that also is a long time friend to mc that it could be which is rebecca, she dresses that way as well. If it is gwen I don't understand why kill off a newly pregnant lover to mc?

Because... there might be a certain someone who enjoys delivering some gut-punches.

Other than that, and it hurts to admit it, but loosing Gwen and the unborn will push MC towards "mercilessness towards enemies" ... a ruthless path in which he could loose himself.

a hurtful but storywise smart decision, MC has to toughen up quickly.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Slowly making my way through the new stuff. Saw we got some beastmen in this world! Got a little excited, aside from them looking a bit too..... beasty. But hey, thought it might've been the normal thing. You know? Monstrous men with the women somehow being barely above or around cosplay level.

Spoiler: Yet I was saddened at 1st when I saw this...

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[Juerhullycin]

It's also funny how the argument of women being sluts or whores, only ever come out when you want to defend some male "right" to never be compared.

straight to insults and shaming. As expected from the realism crowd, but thanks for proving my point. I knew I would get at least one feminist response. If you want to vilify male sexuality, maybe a porn game forum is not for you?

But hey, I'm sure Collective Shout is always searching for new people, you at least have the talking points down already

the others could take the point for what it is and clarify the situation in the game, which is great.

 

[Pixillin']

So, I'm the one vilifying "male" sexuality, so I'm wrong, but you are vilifying "female" sexuality, so you are right. Solid logic there.

You incels are really fragile.

Peace

You shouldn’t feed the trolls. For some reason there’s been an influx of people who haven’t played the game but want to argue about it. That’s why F95 made the ignore button.

 

[jadepaladin]

Grumpy Old Aussie

Is there going to be any kind of management stuff to deal with or will the advisors handle that in the background and leave the story to deal with all the plots around Martin?

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

So, if you go for a harem option, can you be selective and just get the points to have Charlotte & Lydia (for example)? or you can only have 1 or 5?

For the harem option there will be a point threshold with all of them, but it will be lower than the solo path and that will make sense by the time you get there.

Grumpy Old Aussie

Is there going to be any kind of management stuff to deal with or will the advisors handle that in the background and leave the story to deal with all the plots around Martin?

Most of the management and court politics and trifles at this stage happen off screen. The Duchess is handling most of it. While the MC is meeting every man, woman and creature, to show the Stone Throne really is restored. Once, the Prince's people arrive, Turner will do most of that. With the MC established and Ban Ardor operating as a seat of government, there will be more management decisions to make, judgment decisions and so on. It just takes a little time.

Slowly making my way through the new stuff. Saw we got some beastmen in this world! Got a little excited, aside from them looking a bit too..... beasty. But hey, thought it might've been the normal thing. You know? Monstrous men with the women somehow being barely above or around cosplay level.

I'm a bit restricted by DAZ assets with 'beast' people but they are an important part of the story. The old world where all these races were common still exists in pockets around the Lusanti Kingdom. For example, The Leonthari have regular dealings with most of the Eastern Kingdoms.

You shouldn’t feed the trolls. For some reason there’s been an influx of people who haven’t played the game but want to argue about it. That’s why F95 made the ignore button.

I've been around F95 long enough to know some people troll games they haven't played just because they can. They get a kick out of pissing people off. It doesn't bother me. I have no problem with negative constructive criticism, in fact, I welcome it. Trashing attacks, I just ignore.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

There is another side girl he slept with that also is a long time friend to mc that it could be which is rebecca, she dresses that way as well. If it is gwen I don't understand why kill off a newly pregnant lover to mc?

I don't like killing off characters. I use it very sparingly and always for a purpose. I can't saying everything about it, but so far in the story:
- Back in chapter one, when the MC discovers Yenna, he wanders off without telling his guard and dismisses James warning.
- With the brothel, he just leaves the tavern for the brothel through the back door. The guard is left guarding an empty tavern. If you took the prostitute path, some girls drugged him and a cute blonde kissed him. He knows it was a dangerous situation but it hasn't fully registered.
- So far the loss of all his friends have been far off events, people he loved but could goa few months or even a year or two without seeing. The impact hasn't really hit him yet of what he has lost.

He is a typical young guy, it won't happen to him. Now death is staring him in the face. Shit just got real. He has to deal with the shock of that. The opening scene of chapter 3 should clarify things more, but sadly you have to wait a bit for that.

For me personally, it was the sudden loss of my grandfather that transition me from a childish view of the world to a more realistic view of the world. I'm sure we all have our stories.

 

[Pixillin']

He is a typical young guy, it won't happen to him. Now death is staring him in the face. Shit just got real. He has to deal with the shock of that. The opening scene of chapter 3 should clarify things more, but sadly you have to wait a bit for that.

For me personally, it was the sudden loss of my grandfather that transition me from a childish view of the world to a more realistic view of the world. I'm sure we all have our stories.

I wouldn't think he'd need that dose of reality. How old was he when he was on a battlefield for the first time? People who've seen war - real war, up close (as opposed to pushing a button from 1,000 miles away) generally know about the realities of death. And if people now come back with survivors guilt, PTSD, etc - I can't imagine how bad it was when people were fighting with swords, spears and axes or watching a cloud of arrows take down half the people you know in 30 seconds. Not saying he wouldn’t freak out about who it was, but it sounds like he's been staring death in the face since before he had pubes.

 

[jadepaladin]

I wouldn't think he'd need that dose of reality. How old was he when he was on a battlefield for the first time? People who've seen war - real war, up close (as opposed to pushing a button from 1,000 miles away) generally know about the realities of death. And if people now come back with survivors guilt, PTSD, etc - I can't imagine how bad it was when people were fighting with swords, spears and axes or watching a cloud of arrows take down half the people you know in 30 seconds. Not saying he would freak out about who it was, but it sounds like he's been staring death in the face since before he had pubes.

I thought that too and mentioned it earlier in on of my posts but Martin also says he was well protected by his guards (guess this is before they started beating him) so there's the chance he wasn't "too" close to the fighting but closer than a kid should have been. Since GOA has explained the death is basically a narrative device for Martin to "wake up" I understand it better.