0ptimus

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Yeah, it's not that big of a deal to me but I chuckled at the "didn't want to fall into clichés" since the camgirl stuff is one of those extremely overused tropes in these games like: yoga, photoshoot/modeling, clothes shopping, applying sunscreen, massages, games like "truth or date", etc.
Ok sorry maybe I should have read up on the situations you mention and their popularity in this kind of game, I can't really say I'm an expert in “porn-gaming”.
But let's face it, these situations are known to be erotic :).
 
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...that's a bit why I've lost interest in this site...
Don't read too much into the discussions out on the forum. There's a lot of meaningless stuff to sift through, but you can find some useful feedback (and reviews) here and there, if you look for it. Keep up the good work! (y)
 
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I haven't played the game yet, just have it on watch, but if the conversation so far is on a Li becoming a cam girl or whatever, I have seen my fair share of threads where people become upset about it in their own reasons why, such as them saying the girl or girls are no different from a used up whore etc. at that point and rather avoid a relationship with them since they are showing off their bodies to other dudes and in return might get creepy stalkers who want to do stuff to them etc. so guess it does cause a bit of a stir to some people.
 
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Jaga Telesin

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I haven't played the game yet, just have it on watch, but if the conversation so far is on a Li becoming a cam girl or whatever, I have seen my fair share of threads where people become upset about it in their own reasons why, such as them saying the girl or girls are no different from a used up whore etc. at that point and rather avoid a relationship with them since they are showing off their bodies to other dudes and in return might get creepy stalkers who want to do stuff to them etc. so guess it does cause a bit of a stir to some people.
Well that's the thing. For some people, exhibition is a turn on, not a necessary "revenue stream" because they need the money. People that don't have a thing for exhibition don't understand it, and as a result they get turned off and blame it on the plot/etc, which would be an incorrect knee-jerk reaction to what is a kink for many people.

I don't see it as a problem for the plot at all if one of the LIs wants to do that, or if the MC wants to help or even take part. I personally get into exhibition wherever possible, and think it adds spice to a particular fetish, whether or not it's a plot device.
 
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Well that's the thing. For some people, exhibition is a turn on, not a necessary "revenue stream" because they need the money. People that don't have a thing for exhibition don't understand it, and as a result they get turned off and blame it on the plot/etc, which would be an incorrect knee-jerk reaction to what is a kink for many people.

I don't see it as a problem for the plot at all if one of the LIs wants to do that, or if the MC wants to help or even take part. I personally get into exhibition wherever possible, and think it adds spice to a particular fetish, whether or not it's a plot device.
I guess if that is the case or was the intention behind it probably could've been other ways to do it such as the Mc and that Li find ways to be nude at places probably to do sexual things all the while avoiding being seen that seems more thrilling and all then a Li becoming a cam girl etc. and probably a lot safer in a way if they are really stealthy.
 

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I guess if that is the case or was the intention behind it probably could've been other ways to do it such as the Mc and that Li find ways to be nude at places probably to do sexual things all the while avoiding being seen that seems more thrilling and all then a Li becoming a cam girl etc. and probably a lot safer in a way if they are really stealthy.
Not a lot of places near the Manor to engage in that (it's a small town after all), and everyone would end up knowing who it was that did it (and consequently, that it was incest). Plus, it's a drive every time they wanted to do it there. Much more convenient to stay in the Manor and engage in it online where they can remain anonymous. I don't even know in the game world how far the nearest "big town" is, but probably not close.

In other games, with other larger towns, it would work yes. I don't see it as readily available in this game world though. Plus with the space they have (multiple nice rooms, a large pool, etc) it just suits itself better there. No one online is going to know them or their residence, and they can freely engage in it. Just makes sense to me.
 

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Ok sorry maybe I should have read up on the situations you mention and their popularity in this kind of game, I can't really say I'm an expert in “porn-gaming”.
But let's face it, these situations are known to be erotic :).
Just tossing you a bit of unsolicited advice from an expert in "porn-gaming" ;) Anytime you have an LI with controversial kinks(camwhore/stripper/prostitute/slutty/cheating/etc), it's best to make those kinks, or the LI entirely, avoidable. You don't have to compromise your vision for a character to appease some players, if you instead just let those players avoid that character entirely.

Since this is a sandbox game, it should be pretty easy to allow players to avoid an LI's route entirely. Either allow players to progress the main storyline without having progressed that LI's story, or make a simple rejection choice+variable at the start of her story that can be checked alongside her story progression. Example: "if (angelastorych1complete == true or angelarejected ==true)"

Players are always going to complain about specific kinks, but they'll complain a LOT less if those kinks are avoidable. You also kinda shot yourself in the foot by choosing a family member in an incest game as the controversial kink LI. If the camwhore were non-related to MC, there'd still be a tiny bit of grumbling about the LI being unavoidable, but most players wouldn't really care so much. If it were an unrelated LI, and also avoidable, there'd possibly be no complaints at all.
 

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Just tossing you a bit of unsolicited advice from an expert in "porn-gaming" ;) Anytime you have an LI with controversial kinks(camwhore/stripper/prostitute/slutty/cheating/etc), it's best to make those kinks, or the LI entirely, avoidable. You don't have to compromise your vision for a character to appease some players, if you instead just let those players avoid that character entirely.

Since this is a sandbox game, it should be pretty easy to allow players to avoid an LI's route entirely. Either allow players to progress the main storyline without having progressed that LI's story, or make a simple rejection choice+variable at the start of her story that can be checked alongside her story progression. Example: "if (angelastorych1complete == true or angelarejected ==true)"

Players are always going to complain about specific kinks, but they'll complain a LOT less if those kinks are avoidable. You also kinda shot yourself in the foot by choosing a family member in an incest game as the controversial kink LI. If the camwhore were non-related to MC, there'd still be a tiny bit of grumbling about the LI being unavoidable, but most players wouldn't really care so much. If it were an unrelated LI, and also avoidable, there'd possibly be no complaints at all.
Thanks for the clarification, if I'm ever crazy enough to make another game, I'll keep that in mind :).
 
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Well, that's unfortunate..
But I guess the sequel was bound to come out here sooner or later, one way or another...
I still feel a little bad for those who paid for access on Patreon or Itch, but it's a bias I have to accept. I don't blame you.
What's done is done, but what's a pain is uploading it to several platforms and reporting it so that it appears in the “latest updates”.
 
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Well, that's unfortunate..
But I guess the sequel was bound to come out here sooner or later, one way or another...
I still feel a little bad for those who paid for access on Patreon or Itch, but it's a bias I have to accept. I don't blame you.
What's done is done, but what's a pain is uploading it to several platforms and reporting it so that it appears in the “latest updates”.
Good day! I'm stuck at this point in your game, all the girls have been completed in the new version, I don't understand what to do next. Every morning I talk to Amanda in the Cafe, I say that there is no news and so on in a circle. Help
 
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Good day! I'm stuck at this point in your game, all the girls have been completed in the new version, I don't understand what to do next. Every morning I talk to Amanda in the Cafe, I say that there is no news and so on in a circle. Help
Im at the same spot
 

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Ok sorry maybe I should have read up on the situations you mention and their popularity in this kind of game, I can't really say I'm an expert in “porn-gaming”.
But let's face it, these situations are known to be erotic :).
I've been waiting for the game!

Do you have a compiled version. The file this time is huge!
 

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Good day! I'm stuck at this point in your game, all the girls have been completed in the new version, I don't understand what to do next. Every morning I talk to Amanda in the Cafe, I say that there is no news and so on in a circle. Help
Same...
 
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ty good sir
 
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TwinCities said:
Good day! I'm stuck at this point in your game, all the girls have been completed in the new version, I don't understand what to do next. Every morning I talk to Amanda in the Cafe, I say that there is no news and so on in a circle. Help
Im at the same spot
same problem, game doesn't go on after that or haven't figured out how it will.

Found solution go to middle floor, wait afternoon,, and build house,, and on mornings go lakeview to advance, and some point you get to go lakeview on dusk as well, that way got to act 3 and 4 no issues, there was NO hints, just tested every floor on every time available to found this solution didn't get that "hint" that was suppose to happen.
 
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same problem, game doesn't go on after that or haven't figured out how it will.
In chapter 4 if you stay in your room and skip time, eventually you will arrive at the time the next main story line event triggers. It will then tell you where you need to go. Other than chapter 1, I don't think you have to complete any of the girls events to continue to the next chapter, just do the story line. Chapter 2 you just have to get the house ready for your aunt. 3 and 4 I think you just have to do the story line events. Optimus please correct me if I am wrong.
 
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