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Prefer Lisa.
Sarah was actually not bad, but her makeup for the date ruined the previous impression. What the hell is that makeup?
By the way, the texture model for MC is Aaron Taylor-Johnson.
Sarah was actually not bad, but her makeup for the date ruined the previous impression. What the hell is that makeup?
By the way, the texture model for MC is Aaron Taylor-Johnson.
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NGL this prologue killed me. I despise the dev. I didn't sign up to watch a fucking sob story and damn did it get me off guard...I really enjoyed Ella and the MC and was really looking forward to seeing their relationship grow and what it was going to be like in school and that all but lasted a whole 5 minutes before she was dead already damn.
Blackheartz_
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100% want a PREQUEL. shit had me excited to finally play a good ass VN. (with the Ella story)
Not saying that this isnt a good VN but a Prequel telling the story before the time jump to having a baby would be epic.
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Haven't had a knot in my throat and got teary eyed in a while you asshole.
Having said that, all the other LI don't really do it for me after Ella and now I wonder... Is the sister going to be an LI?. Does anyone know?
Having said that, all the other LI don't really do it for me after Ella and now I wonder... Is the sister going to be an LI?. Does anyone know?
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I feel the same. Nothing really doing it for me after Ella. I just keep wishing she was still alive.
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My general thoughts:
The strength of the characters is what keeps me interested. There are no real 'filler' characters. There's a depth to all the personalities we've been introduced to, which makes me want to play all the paths. I'm sure a manwhore path with have interesting problems, but a monk path will as well. It's those details that really help this hit home for me - even if I'm not interested in a particular LI, I want to see what happens on their path, because their characters are so convincing to me, as well as each of them reflecting a different part of the extended trauma around Ella. I'm still trying to work out how Hailey fits in with that, I guess that'll be more apparent in the next chapter. My pet theory is her dad might be the disgraced orphanage caretaker. Fanciful maybe? But I'm curious anyway.
THe other thing I love is the coffee cup. Not just because I drink so much coffee, but because there's those moments of the story where words are not needed, and the coffe cup is a great symbol for all those moments. A big strength of the stroy is the levels of inference, that we're required to make the connections from what we've seen, that the different paths are actually quite entwined, everyone is connected by low degrees of separation.
Regarding the LI's, Hailey's mixture of naivety and drive is adorable. I'm most interested in finding out what degree of separatiion her trauma has from Ella's as I mentioned. Sarah's already a comfortable fit, she just manages to sneak in for the hug, like it's the most natural thing in the world, and bam! it's on. I'm most interested in seeing what happens when the MC and she realise how they're connected by the hospital. Lisa's path I think will be very interesting, because her mother has interests that affect Hailey's work on the project, and there's hints she knows who the MC's father is, which we're seeing a decent amount of foreshadowing about. Lisa in some ways was the least interesting to me initially, but this chapter really warmed me up to her. In some ways, she's a lot like the MC, and as she's a similar age, I suspect their interactions will be quite different to Hailey's infatuation, with her letting her guard down more and more.
And the end scene of the chapter, well.
The strength of the characters is what keeps me interested. There are no real 'filler' characters. There's a depth to all the personalities we've been introduced to, which makes me want to play all the paths. I'm sure a manwhore path with have interesting problems, but a monk path will as well. It's those details that really help this hit home for me - even if I'm not interested in a particular LI, I want to see what happens on their path, because their characters are so convincing to me, as well as each of them reflecting a different part of the extended trauma around Ella. I'm still trying to work out how Hailey fits in with that, I guess that'll be more apparent in the next chapter. My pet theory is her dad might be the disgraced orphanage caretaker. Fanciful maybe? But I'm curious anyway.
THe other thing I love is the coffee cup. Not just because I drink so much coffee, but because there's those moments of the story where words are not needed, and the coffe cup is a great symbol for all those moments. A big strength of the stroy is the levels of inference, that we're required to make the connections from what we've seen, that the different paths are actually quite entwined, everyone is connected by low degrees of separation.
Regarding the LI's, Hailey's mixture of naivety and drive is adorable. I'm most interested in finding out what degree of separatiion her trauma has from Ella's as I mentioned. Sarah's already a comfortable fit, she just manages to sneak in for the hug, like it's the most natural thing in the world, and bam! it's on. I'm most interested in seeing what happens when the MC and she realise how they're connected by the hospital. Lisa's path I think will be very interesting, because her mother has interests that affect Hailey's work on the project, and there's hints she knows who the MC's father is, which we're seeing a decent amount of foreshadowing about. Lisa in some ways was the least interesting to me initially, but this chapter really warmed me up to her. In some ways, she's a lot like the MC, and as she's a similar age, I suspect their interactions will be quite different to Hailey's infatuation, with her letting her guard down more and more.
And the end scene of the chapter, well.
For me, the sticking point is... the MC is independently wealthy, so it's interesting to see how the various LIs will react to this wealth.
Hailey - seems to have daddy issues and her character is quite immature. How much this is all down to past trauma remains to be seen. I get the impression she'll become quite possessive. At this stage, I'm not sure if she's attracted to the MCs wealth or his status within the company - i.e. he's a conduit to enable her to get ahead both professionally and socially. I haven't really played the route where the MC is dismissive, perhaps controlling of Hailey. I'm not sure I want to because I'm uncomfortable with an MC victimizing and manipulating an abuse survivor.
Sarah - boy. she's a goer. I guess she indicated that when she nonchalantly went topless in front of the MC - someone she barely knew - at the lake. Aside from that, I am not sure how she'll react to the MC's wealth. It just seems like she's jumped the MC without really getting to know him. Of course, the big moment will be when Hailey and the MC FINALLY discover their shared trauma around the death of Maddie...
Lisa - she seems the safest bet, since she was born into wealth. There's just this sadness to her. I get the impression she dearly wants a child, but it's not yet clear why she doesn't have one.
Maddie [sister] - given the MC's wealth, I'm vaguely suspicious that she turns up at the MC's luxurious cottage eight years after her sister's death. Anyway, at the very least, I hope the MC immediately drags her to the hospital for a CAD test the moment he meets her. From memory, Ella said she was orphaned at the age of 4, so I assume Maddie can't more more than 3-4 years younger than Ella, making her in her mid- to late-20s.
BobtheDuck, the only sticking point about your theory with Hailey's dad is that Hailey and her friend grew up rurally, on farms.
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I just started playing this game, but man the introduction between MC and Ella with the skateboard is rough to watch. I get it there needs to be something to get them meet each other, but the accident is clearly 100% Ella's fault and it's really weird to see how the scene turned out the opposite with her blaming MC and MC being scared as if he was the one at fault.
I sure hope the dialogue would get better from there.
I sure hope the dialogue would get better from there.
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Oh man, this creator has an amazing storytelling ability, and every episode keeps choking me up emotionally. I hope it doesn’t end up as an abandoned project... <3
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Yeah, I guess given on the time frame it wouldn't make sense.
But the MC's age isn't necessarily that young. MC is in the same year as Ella when they meet right? Then there's college, where she helps with his theses (and Ben's). THere's the shared dorm vibe with Ben and Vicky being awkward. So, at least three years after the skatepark. Then building the company. The non canon sex scene in the gallery shows that they were focused on bing successful earlier. Also, remember that the mansion we see at the end of Ch2 - Ella lived there. That's where the MC sees memories of her, and the groundskeeper remembers Ella, as is obvious from the end of the scene. So timeline is that after the skatepark, the MC went to college and built a business empire from scratch with Ben, enough to own a mansion before Ella and he conceived (no memories of her in the mansion if she was already gone by then).
So it's far more likely that the MC and Ella were in their late 20s, and the MC is now in his mid thirties. I should remind myself of the script, because the coffee hasn't sunk in. I think there might be a reference to Lisa's age, and she jokes that in a different life, they'd have played in the same sandbox. This'll mean that Madelyn is also in her mid 30's.
So if my theory has any weight - Ella's experience at the orphanage is a plot point, she leaves at 18 anyway, the guy gets dismissed, the MC is 36 - the care taker could leave and settle rural with a 3 year old, Hailey would be the right age, roughly.
Oh and Ben and Vicky have multiple children - ages aren't mentioned, but given the anecdotes about Ben and Vicky's sex life through college, and the MC's bad name of Olga being a joke - Ben and Vicky's kids are older - more to kind of get an idea of the MC's age. I really should remind myself of the details.
The MC does a 180, immediately turns around to had home to get changed, so basically does a u-turn infront of Ella.
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yup, i think the scene served its purpose nonetheless. i mean skateboarding on the sidewalk - residential one - seems like a its my sidewalk thing to do hehe. totally fits Ella!
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Agreed. I'm a bit further into the game now and I saw another weird scene on Sarah's route where she tripped over a can. Surely what would've happened is you'd end up kicking the can rather than the can making you fall over. Then similarly with the Ella's scene, the reaction from Sarah was aggressive. Same aggressive reaction from Lisa's path too. But as you said, these scenes served their purpose. I just thought they could've been done better while still serving their purpose.
Overall the game felt fine so far, but I'm just a bit baffled why the dev chose these kind of scenes to introduce the characters. I might go with Hailey's path just to avoid the aggressive introductions with Lisa/Sarah. Hope Hailey's isn't like that.
EDIT: Welp, Hailey is also aggressive though at least nowhere near as aggressive as Lisa/Sarah/Ella's introduction. It's really weird to see nobody having any sensible manners at all. If Hailey thinks MC is a visitor, it's really not a good idea to start by accusing he's snooping around. I just don't get it why the first instinct of all these characters is to be confrontational. And to make it worse, Lisa and Sarah backflipped immediately after which made the initial confrontation to be even more jarring. I guess at least Ella and Hailey continued to not care and there is some consistency.
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