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What are some of the most overrated and underrated adult games of this site. Share your opinion. (For starters, you can discuss about games in the trending section).
The most overrated and underrated adult games according to you.....
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I can't say it's overrated based on it's content because I haven't played it but I feel like Being a DIK is overrated based on the sheer number of ratings (469 as of writing this). However I think of it, this number is abnormal. It is 8th game in number when sorting by views and has around 12.6 million views. Among the next 6 games above it 4 have less than 200 ratings, and 2 have less than 100. Going by date the thread was posted (at the top), these games came out around 2 years or before Being a DIK (more time to post ratings or so one would think). But the best comparison is with the game at the number 1 position, Milfy city, it came out around 1 year before and has the closest number of likes to BaD (BaD of course with most number of likes at 4908, Milfy City 4133 likes), it has almost double the views of BaD at 24.4 million but only 221 ratings, not even half as many.
Ok, so maybe it's recency bias, newer players are more likely to rate or maybe it's due to the writing quality so let's take a look at some other games. City or Broken Dreamers, this came out around the same time as BaD and is also a sequel from a game dev known for good writing - 138 ratings. The DeLuca Family, prioritizing good writing and storytelling with lewd scenes taking a backseat - 262 ratings. WVM, don't know about writing but definitely a recently popular and hyped game - 251 ratings. Ok maybe recency and writing and focus on storytelling play a factor but these are still not close to BaD and there is another anomaly that should be mentioned. I only looked it up after I started writing this comment but Acting Lessons by same creator as BaD, a contemporary of Milfy city with half the likes and less than sixth the number of views, has a whopping 535 reviews. This has to be the most reviewed game on here, I can't really think of any other with more ratings.
I have only played Milfy city and tried and dropped acting lessons so all this is just by numbers and what I've read. I'm really curious why these are so exceptional, are DrPinkCake fans just overzealous or are these really the best games on this site. If this is offtopic as the OP is asking for opinions or if this has been discussed elsewhere then I'm sorry but this is really interesting to me.
Ok, so maybe it's recency bias, newer players are more likely to rate or maybe it's due to the writing quality so let's take a look at some other games. City or Broken Dreamers, this came out around the same time as BaD and is also a sequel from a game dev known for good writing - 138 ratings. The DeLuca Family, prioritizing good writing and storytelling with lewd scenes taking a backseat - 262 ratings. WVM, don't know about writing but definitely a recently popular and hyped game - 251 ratings. Ok maybe recency and writing and focus on storytelling play a factor but these are still not close to BaD and there is another anomaly that should be mentioned. I only looked it up after I started writing this comment but Acting Lessons by same creator as BaD, a contemporary of Milfy city with half the likes and less than sixth the number of views, has a whopping 535 reviews. This has to be the most reviewed game on here, I can't really think of any other with more ratings.
I have only played Milfy city and tried and dropped acting lessons so all this is just by numbers and what I've read. I'm really curious why these are so exceptional, are DrPinkCake fans just overzealous or are these really the best games on this site. If this is offtopic as the OP is asking for opinions or if this has been discussed elsewhere then I'm sorry but this is really interesting to me.
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A very good analysis. Yes certain games are very popular in f95zone but if we leave this site and look for general internet presence then Milfy city and summertime saga is in a different realm compared to all other adult games. ( Just look for this games on youtube or, pornhub. The number of videos with high view count dwarfs any other adult games).
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Well, the trouble with the trending list, as with any trending list is that it is based either on page visits and/or posts generated, and not necessarily a true method of determining general all encompassing quality...
A majority of Players/Readers of Visual Novels and Games within this niche industry, never post a message or vote a poll or write a review... It is a very small minority of players/reader that does any of those things... So the average rating you see on sites like this one, or others, is not necessarily a complete gauge of how good or bad a given VN/Game truly is... Just like with player hype in the normal gaming industry, you may get a bunch of fans constantly praising a game, but in the end it's poor design or crappy game play ends up killing it's over all sales, and all that hype did nothing to keep it from dying overall... Same thing with VN/Games in this industry... You will get some hopeful fans trying desperately to keep a VN/Game alive through artificially inflating the average review rating in hopes of keeping it alive, when it may or may not be doomed... That is not always the case, but it happens a lot more then people think it does...
Sometimes it's like a battle is being waged, between some of the fans trying to keep the average rating from dipping too low due to low scoring reviews, and all the folks who keep rating the thing low, because in the end it really isn't all that great...
Some folks are like moths, drawn to the flame of the visuals without caring about or looking at all the flaws (flames) associated to the story, game play, continuity, etc... Many folks may be so enamored by the visual glamour that they are more forgiving of all the burning issues, and hold on for dear life hoping the rest will catch up eventually... Therefore their rating is based more on a desire and/or hope for the future, more so then what it deserves based on current overall content... There are even some developers that are banking on the visuals alone, knowing full well the rest is crap and may stay crap, because the trap is set and the fish are hooked... Time to reel in their money...
Also, the trending list is skewed by the fact that sometimes diamonds get lost in the mix, not getting as much activity as it deserves, and therefore gets lost in the sea... Never even making it to the Trending list because too many other threads are highly active currently, or were very active once upon a time... Even just being on the trending list itself can end up perpetuating it staying on the list... And therefore artificially boosts it's trend... It's why I don't bother with the Trending list...
I've run into lots of VN/Games where I thought the experience was bad, and when I finish my review I'll look at the average rating and/or other peoples reviews, and can be totally confused at how some folks end up placing it on this pedestal of glory... And I perfectly understand that everyone's tastes are different... But sometimes the game is just so horrible visually, and/or is incredibly hard to read, and/or the game play is so broken, etc, that it's very hard to understand how someone else can give it such high praise with all it's issues... It makes you wonder how any other person could give a 5 star rating to a disaster... Was it out of hope, or are they just a fanatical fan trying to increase hype, or are they a ghost developer account trying to counter lower scored reviews, or are they just out of their minds, or are they just praising it due to one aspect of the project and not the whole, the list of questions goes on and on in my mind, sometimes... But I just do my review and move on usually... And I know that in some cases it's just a matter of difference in taste, varied experience, and/or what the player/reader was even looking for in the first place... Some are just seeking something to get their jollies (this is probably the vast majority of first time players/readers that find this niche industry), some want to be entertained alongside getting their jollies (this is probably the vast majority of folks who stick it out in this niche industry), and some just want to be entertained in general without necessarily getting their jollies (this is probably the vast majority of folks who just happen upon this industry while looking for normal games/visual novels in general)...
I probably run into more Overrated VN/Games then I run into Underrated VN/Games... Although it's sometimes a bit sad when some of the more promising VN/Games don't get the attention they may deserve...
As far as a list of examples? Hmmmm...
I think that in some ways The Tyrant is a bit over rated, even with it's average only being around 4 stars...
Another over rated one was Big Brother, which I always felt it's fan base had a tendency to be over zealous in it's defense, regardless of it's inherent flaws... And that it's average score was over inflated because of it... I think the only reason that was happening was due to the hype (negative and positive) generated by the constant battle between desperate overzealous fans and the huge number of critics... Being artificially boosted by constantly being in the spot light... Add to that, the fact that the timing of it's creation was during the very large Incest boom, prior to Patreon's updating of their content rules... And only a tiny handful of VN/Games were using higher rez models at that time as well... So choices were limited for those drawn to high rez images rather then over all quality...
There are others as well, but it would make my reply even longer then it already is...
As to under rated, I can't think of one off the top of my head at the moment... I would need to go back through all the VN/Games I've tried over the years to see what their current ratings are to determine what is probably under rated, in my opinion...
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This is pretty stupid man, like saying it's overrated because it's very popular.
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And for this reason I place a high emphasis on thread views to gauge public interest as it is the only parameter that can be less tempered with.
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Trouble with that is that there may be varying discussions going on between a small sect of peoples just having some back and forth banter about items related to the topic's subject matter, that in the end artificially inflates the actual concept of actual interest... You can't really gauge how good or bad a VN/Game is on how frequent people are posting messages in it's thread... You can surmise that the thread is highly active perhaps, but not how good or bad the VN/Game is, if the discussions are even about a VN/Game and/or it's worth... That's really what the Review system is intended to do, even though it is also subject to artificial inflation/deflation... You can't even always determine how interested people are in the actual product, just because the thread has lots of people chatting, asking questions, etc... There are lots of VN/Games out there that may be really good, but the threads just don't get much traffic, and therefore never make it to the trending list...
The only way to truly gauge how well or how bad a VN/Game is doing in the public domain, is to seek out multiple and varying sources of information... And then come to your own conclusions based off multiple sources...That is an inherent flaw in the Internet itself... But that isn't something most folks are willing to do, either because they are inherently lazy, or it's just too bothersome, or they are too trusting about what little information is made available... In reality, the best way to truly judge a VN/Game's quality is to just download it and try if for yourself... Thread traffic is not a very good/accurate gauge of positive popularity over a given product... Even more so, if the thread has been around for a very long time... Although it may present some sort of hype over something, maybe related to the product...
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I'm not saying it doesn't deserve the actual score but the number of ratings is abnormal compared to other statistics and I was wondering what causes the players of these couple of games to put down a rating as compared to others. Again, I was just making an observation on something I found interesting. Maybe I didn't use the correct wording, I was originally typing a much more topical reply involving many games but lost my train of thought and went on a tangent due to what I found.
True, I was very surprised when I went to the list of top devs on patreon, reality was very different from what I expected.
The more fundamental issue with any "trending" list is that the basic concept is inherently self-perpetuating. By exposing this list as an easy and convenient "go here" sign viewers are funnelled to arbitrary/temporary top-ranking entries regardless of quality while objectively superior competitors can be left in the dust out of sheer bad luck. And this affects all entries in all such lists through no fault of their own so calling any of them "overrated" (or "underrated" if they didn't make the initial cut) is misleading.
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If that works for you I say go for it... Me, I either don't bother looking at either, and usually just try the VN/Game if it seems interesting based off the original post, or possibly I might seek out multiple sources before making a decision... I usually do not trust any one source of information to base my decisions on... This is the internet after all... It's basically one giant wall of opinion influenced sticky notes mixed with the facts... By checking out multiple sources and/or multiple opinions, you get a better overall idea of what is more factual, what is supposition, and what is malarkey...
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I am not saying that high number of views = high quality; just that their is a higher probability that a game with higher number of views indicates a greater public interest if its constant across different platforms.
What Being a DIK has over the other top games like MILF city and Summertime Saga is its update consistency. It has an update every 3 to 4, while both MILF city and Summertime Saga had almost a year between updates at some point. That can really screw up the amount of views on a threat: people checking if their is any news for an update, or being frustrated by the lack of updates etc.
Besides that Being a DIK has a pretty wide base of 'general' good stuff: decent to good writing, characters are somewhat fleshed out with an actual personality, good animations, wide variety of (female) characters, a common/recognizable setting, a good amount of actual porn scenes, etc. I would honestly think Being a DIK is properly one of the most actually played games on here.
As on topic, I would say Treasure of Nadia and that other game of the same developer are overrated. It has great animated sex scenes, but a horrible story, empty characters, and an horrible horrible story/hint system. It's prob one of the few games where I just get a fully completed save file to check out the sex scenes and not really bother playing it.
Most sci-fi games seem to be pretty underrated or atleast underplayed. City of Broken dreams is an amazing looking game with great reviews, but doesn't really seem to get the same amount of views/plays as non sci-fi games.
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I sort of started playing DIK a week or so ago, but found it to be not so easy to figure out... It seems to have lots of production value added in, but the story and dialogue elements don't really hint at any particular direction all that often... I began with going a romance route with the very first female character, because it seemed to hint that was the path to go... But I began to notice that many choices were locked away behind the DIK/CHICK mechanic, basically throwing me into the CHICK category just because I was not a jerk all the time... A ton of content, out the gate (once the intro was done) seemed to be locked behind the DIK rating... It was not intuitive at all, as even the first female (who seemed very much to be a love interest) wanted a little bit of CHICK choice and a little bit of DIK choice if you really wanted to push her story along the best... I then determined that the only way I was gonna be able to really achieve the goals I wanted, was to use a walk through... I really hate feeling like that is a necessity, but I decided to start over, as many of the locked choices seemed to be kind of constantly nudging you (even through it's title) to be a jerk a majority of the time (to have a higher DIK score), if you wanted to see a major portion of the content...
So, in the end I put that VN/Game on pause... As it will require much more dedicated time to progress through it's high amount of content, especially if I plan to use the walk through to achieve my intended play goals... It doesn't always do a good job at hinting through the dialogue and story text, that a given choice is DIK, CHICK, or no points at all, beyond what you might think is an obvious DIK choice...
But I don't want to stray too far off this threads topic, as I'm not ready to do any kind of realistic review of that VN/Game yet, until I've gotten most, if not all, of the way through an entire play through... Thus far my experience with it has been limited...
As to the Sci-Fi games, I've not played/read any of the ones you mentioned... But Sci-Fi and Fantasy, in general, has always kind of been given the cold shoulder by the main population, regardless of medium... Movies are a prime example, where it is a rarity to see a top end Sci-Fi or High Fantasy movie win Best Picture at the Oscars, and yet they do tend to win things like Best Soundtrack, Best Special Effects, etc... It's only in the last few decades really, that we've began to even see them really flourish and not be something only "Nerds" or young folks go to see... I count myself among the nerd population... And that is primarily due to lower laptop prices, cell phones, the increase in use of the Internet (beyond just message boarding like with AOL back in the 90's) and so forth... Computer tech is in the hands of the masses to a much higher degree then decades before...
To add to all that, Sci-Fi/Fantasy VN/Games in this niche industry are not always done all that well, from my experience... It's sort of a rarity to find an erotic VN/Game based on a Sci-Fi or High Fantasy setting that didn't seem rather dorky or was poorly crafted... Also, another issue you find the most with High Fantasy in this industry, is that a majority of players/readers don't want things like Monster Sex or Tentacle Sex or Furry Sex and the list goes on... So it pushes the ones that do have those more off-center fetishes, into a even more secluded corner of this niche industry... Not getting the same kind of attention as the ones in a more mundane setting... Sci-Fi sometimes has similar issues... Even Horror can have the same issues... As most folks don't want to see a ton of gore and extreme violence in their Erotic VN/Games either... Although violence in and of itself, has a tendency to be more tolerated by the masses depending on it's level of violence (visually and story wise)... Not sure if that is due to desensitization of the younger generations, or some other possible more psychological based issue, who's to say, maybe a bit of both...
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According to me ... overrated and underrated..
Sure, why not.
Acting Lessons is, quite possibly, the single most overrated VN i've ever come across. It's average at best and that's me in a good mood being as generous as I possibly can be.
It relies too much on drama to try and convey story for a main character that is void of personality and love interests that would have been overshadowed in any other game.
From the start of the game we have the MC in hospital after an armed robbery followed by homelessness, domestic abuse, potential rape, murder, kidnapping, assault, theft, cheating partners, cancer victims,blackmail, depression and friends trying to steal another friends partner.
Ever single episode was one dramatic event after another so by the time the big event happened I was all drama'd out and gave zero fucks. It wasn't given time to make a big enough impact nor had the potential relationship it destroyed been given long enough to convey the sense of loss it should have done.
The over reliance on drama seems to be because the characters weren't interesting enough to carry the story without it.
In the short couple of years i've been here and my time dwelling on TFgames, ULMF and fuwanovel i've never seen a game so undeserving get so much praise.
As far as underrated games go... there are far too many.
Retrieving the Past, Heavy Five, Personal Trainer, Avalon, Dog Days of Summer, Alison Fall of the Apple, Reluctant Archon, Vinland, Bad Memories, Becoming a Rockstar and many others.
Sure, why not.
Acting Lessons is, quite possibly, the single most overrated VN i've ever come across. It's average at best and that's me in a good mood being as generous as I possibly can be.
It relies too much on drama to try and convey story for a main character that is void of personality and love interests that would have been overshadowed in any other game.
From the start of the game we have the MC in hospital after an armed robbery followed by homelessness, domestic abuse, potential rape, murder, kidnapping, assault, theft, cheating partners, cancer victims,blackmail, depression and friends trying to steal another friends partner.
Ever single episode was one dramatic event after another so by the time the big event happened I was all drama'd out and gave zero fucks. It wasn't given time to make a big enough impact nor had the potential relationship it destroyed been given long enough to convey the sense of loss it should have done.
The over reliance on drama seems to be because the characters weren't interesting enough to carry the story without it.
In the short couple of years i've been here and my time dwelling on TFgames, ULMF and fuwanovel i've never seen a game so undeserving get so much praise.
As far as underrated games go... there are far too many.
Retrieving the Past, Heavy Five, Personal Trainer, Avalon, Dog Days of Summer, Alison Fall of the Apple, Reluctant Archon, Vinland, Bad Memories, Becoming a Rockstar and many others.
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Overrated... well I'm not telling you, because I'm not being a dick! *cough* see what I did here? HaHa, but I'm joking, I haven't even played it, so I never got a perfect picture^^
Also, don't expect me to take you by the hand like a big brother, I'm not going to take you to the yellow basketball court and I'm not telling you what games I think are overrated, think for yourself
Underrated... all of my games of course! Yes, all of them
and maybe Aetegina or Healslut (yes, I like it)
and even though it might not be everyones cup of tea, I feel like it's heavily ignored by a lot of people even though it's a great game: Spacecorps XXX
Also, don't expect me to take you by the hand like a big brother, I'm not going to take you to the yellow basketball court and I'm not telling you what games I think are overrated, think for yourself
Underrated... all of my games of course! Yes, all of them
and maybe Aetegina or Healslut (yes, I like it)
and even though it might not be everyones cup of tea, I feel like it's heavily ignored by a lot of people even though it's a great game: Spacecorps XXX
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"Chad&The Harem" games. I get the appeal, but it's just shallow ego stroking ( most of the time). This and incest ( not my kink), are hard to pull off without ending up comical.
Underrated creators? More than few: Architect, Oceanlab, etc.
And Gumpdropz, we all love the guy.
Underrated creators? More than few: Architect, Oceanlab, etc.
And Gumpdropz, we all love the guy.
Milfy City and Summertime Saga are the most overrated by far. They have no hook to draw you in plot wise. Oh, I wanna bang my sister but shes grounded. Lets do some fetch quests. Oh I wanna bang my other sis. Lets do some photoshoots. You know what, lets just rape them at night and call it a day. I couldn't even get past 5 minutes with STS to make a snarky comment on it. When there is a free roamer with absolutely no hook, it just turns into an exercise of tedium. If you look at Rocking Robin, it might be similar in design, but there is a overarching plot thread of the mafia life that ties everything together. Now we have a purpose for doing various tasks.
As for underrated game, there are many, but my vote goes to Primal Instinct. This dev needs some love for the insanely good camera work and visual story telling. The story could lose some people with a "get on with it" attitude, but I personally find it very intriguing.
As for underrated game, there are many, but my vote goes to Primal Instinct. This dev needs some love for the insanely good camera work and visual story telling. The story could lose some people with a "get on with it" attitude, but I personally find it very intriguing.
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For the most overrated games i'd have to take a trip to the City of Milfs during the Summertime and witness the Saga of a College Student who is pretty good at Basketball but that would ruin the Perfect Picture. So i'll just travel to my Harem Hotel and and enjoy the Radiant sun during the trip.
There are several games that are pretty underrated. Ataegina, Alison: Fall of the Apple, Bad Memories, Come Inside and SpaceCorpsXXX directly come to mind but there are several others that are extremly underrated because most people are only interested in braindead fuckfests without any quality in story and visuals.
There are several games that are pretty underrated. Ataegina, Alison: Fall of the Apple, Bad Memories, Come Inside and SpaceCorpsXXX directly come to mind but there are several others that are extremly underrated because most people are only interested in braindead fuckfests without any quality in story and visuals.
I disagree with just about everything you said, but that made me laugh so hard. and now I wanna see that game.
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Overrated: Summertime Saga.
I don't get the appeal. It's open-ish in what you can do, but most characters have the personality of a wet blanket.
That combined with holy fuck, the updates takes forever and it feels like it has no actual content.
"Oh no my husband is killed and now I want to bang my TotallyNot!Son because of reasons that I couldn't begin to explain but I saw his penis and now I want to fuck him."
Half the routes requires you to advance through routes I have no interest in.
Want to do Roxxy's route? Tough luck, have to do Jenny's (I think that was her name) route in order to get enough DEX to win a fight for no literally no reason. Oh and you need to help the very blatantly obvious gay guy that the protagonist is too fucking dense to realize is, in fact, gay in order to get stronger because... yeah, I don't know why.
Roxxy is the only BARELY hot character in the game and her story is terrible at best. For the most part, I just ignored the other character stories because they don't interest me.
Also, even if you bang the entire fucking city... "You're a virgin, aren't you?"
No, I'm the fucking father of three with two different women, how in the name of fuck am I a virgin?
Underrated:
Honestly, I'm not quite sure. I'd maybe say Paprika Trainer, but it's not really my cup of tea to begin with. It's not a bad game, I'm just generally disinterested in trainer games (with a handful of exceptions). The game has some funny dialogue, at least.
Other than that, I'm drawing a blank.
I don't get the appeal. It's open-ish in what you can do, but most characters have the personality of a wet blanket.
That combined with holy fuck, the updates takes forever and it feels like it has no actual content.
"Oh no my husband is killed and now I want to bang my TotallyNot!Son because of reasons that I couldn't begin to explain but I saw his penis and now I want to fuck him."
Half the routes requires you to advance through routes I have no interest in.
Want to do Roxxy's route? Tough luck, have to do Jenny's (I think that was her name) route in order to get enough DEX to win a fight for no literally no reason. Oh and you need to help the very blatantly obvious gay guy that the protagonist is too fucking dense to realize is, in fact, gay in order to get stronger because... yeah, I don't know why.
Roxxy is the only BARELY hot character in the game and her story is terrible at best. For the most part, I just ignored the other character stories because they don't interest me.
Also, even if you bang the entire fucking city... "You're a virgin, aren't you?"
No, I'm the fucking father of three with two different women, how in the name of fuck am I a virgin?
Underrated:
Honestly, I'm not quite sure. I'd maybe say Paprika Trainer, but it's not really my cup of tea to begin with. It's not a bad game, I'm just generally disinterested in trainer games (with a handful of exceptions). The game has some funny dialogue, at least.
Other than that, I'm drawing a blank.