VN Ren'Py The Nature of Magic [Part 3] [Slate Interactive]

[OWSam000]

The controversial issue of Aine is that if she is a romantic that seeking long-term partner seriously so she can enjoy both emotional and physical pleasure, it won't be suprised that she could still remain virgin cause she may not have met the someone special before meeting MC. If she really had some serious relationships that can be intimate with, then why easily be broken off or why MC never heard of her relationship status when he met her/ Cerys never mentioned a bit?
So the character is set in a conflict condition that confuse everyone. Just hope the issue can be solved quickly in either way.

 

[OWSam000]

however I also play Origin Story and saw the same thing in that thread when Evelyn did her nympho flip, so maybe I just don't care anymore.

Thank you for the file. I also don't think Evelyn is a issue for me in that game, but it is not the same as the problem in this game if you read carefully in the comments in previous and this page. However, it is just some minor problems that can be easily fixed but it can also be a serious impact on the status of love interest if Dev handle the wrong way.

 

[testers123456]

The controversial issue of Aine is that if she is a romantic that seeking long-term partner seriously so she can enjoy both emotional and physical pleasure, it won't be suprised that she could still remain virgin cause she may not have met the someone special before meeting MC. If she really had some serious relationships that can be intimate with, then why easily be broken off or why MC never heard of her relationship status when he met her/ Cerys never mentioned a bit?
So the character is set in a conflict condition that confuse everyone. Just hope the issue can be solved quickly in either way.

When the mc speaks with Aine during their first couple of meetings, he asks her if she is single and she confirms that she is. As for previous relationships and the reasoning behind why they didn't last, I'm pretty sure that you can put that down to the people were just getting close to her because of her family which is why she is so focused on looking for someone that is more interested in her than her family background.

Personally, I don't think she is a virgin for 2 reasons, firstly, she has more sucking power than a dyson which shows she is experienced in that and I wouldn't put it down to training with a banana like some girls do in preparation as she didn't miss a drop of cum. Secondly, she showed no signs of being shocked when he was womb fucking her, in fact she was using that to her advantage to make the mc even more excited. I can understand that she went through training to learn all those magic skills to improve the sexual experience but I don't think there is any training that would teach her how to behave like I mentioned.

 

[OWSam000]

When the mc speaks with Aine during their first couple of meetings, he asks her if she is single and she confirms that she is. As for previous relationships and the reasoning behind why they didn't last, I'm pretty sure that you can put that down to the people were just getting close to her because of her family which is why she is so focused on looking for someone that is more interested in her than her family background.

Personally, I don't think she is a virgin for 2 reasons, firstly, she has more sucking power than a dyson which shows she is experienced in that and I wouldn't put it down to training with a banana like some girls do in preparation as she didn't miss a drop of cum. Secondly, she showed no signs of being shocked when he was womb fucking her, in fact she was using that to her advantage to make the mc even more excited. I can understand that she went through training to learn all those magic skills to improve the sexual experience but I don't think there is any training that would teach her how to behave like I mentioned.

I think the story tend to describe her as having dating experience but not that far to have sex with those people, but the sex scene with mc totally throw out her entire image previously developed, then heavily hint or rub in players face that make her really look like a nympho that she had a lot of sex with lot of experience. If she was not virgin, at least stated that she was heartbroken by some of her previous relationships that she offered her whole but to only found out they were only come after her status instead of herself. If Dev want to describe her as a loyal/passionate lover solely to MC, just delete all the lines about the description of previous partners and adjust some lines like upper posts had changed. You really don't want to see such lines during sex like ' I finally feel this again' after mc womb fucking and cum inside her, or ' I missed the feel to be filled again'/ 'miss the taste of dick and balls and semen again'.

 

[Lynava]

I think the story tend to describe her as having dating experience but not that far to have sex with those people, but the sex scene with mc totally throw out her entire image previously which heavily hint or rub in players face that make her really look like a nympho that she had a lot of sex with lot of experience. If she was not virgin, at least stated that she was heartbroken by some of her previous relationships that she offered her whole but to only found out they were only come after her status instead of herself. If Dev want to describe her as a loyal/passionate lover solely to MC, just delete all the lines about the description of previous partners and adjust some lines like upper posts had changed.

The easiest way is to simply refuse her

 

[OWSam000]

The easiest way is to simply refuse her

But her status is so important in the story that refusing her likely ruin my story in my harem playthrough.

 

[testers123456]

I think the story tend to describe her as having dating experience but not that far to have sex with those people, but the sex scene with mc totally throw out her entire image previously developed, then heavily hint or rub in players face that make her really look like a nympho that she had a lot of sex with lot of experience. If she was not virgin, at least stated that she was heartbroken by some of her previous relationships that she offered her whole but to only found out they were only come after her status instead of herself. If Dev want to describe her as a loyal/passionate lover solely to MC, just delete all the lines about the description of previous partners and adjust some lines like upper posts had changed. You really don't want to see such lines during sex like ' I finally feel this again' after mc womb fucking and cum inside her, or ' I missed the feel to be filled again'/ 'miss the taste of dick and balls and semen again'.

I don't think she has had many previous partners if you consider her thought process about looking for a partner that is emotionally invested in her and how dates usually go. She probably fell in love with one guy previously which gave her the experience she now has. Tried dating after that but due to the experience with the other guy, she knew what to look out for and probably was met with more guys after her family status after that. Also, if you look at the methods used by the other two members of the trinity, you can probably see why Aine is good at giving BJ's as they probably got advice from her initially. As for her being a nympho, I think the youngest is more of a nympho than Aine is and she hasn't even had sex with the mc yet. Once that happens, we may need to invest in a crow bar just to get her off the mc.

In regard to the lines during the sex scene, I agree, they do need changing.

 

[Meehaha]

She is 56 and you lot seem to expect her to be a little blushing virgin. I think that says more about you than her. Personally I quite like the contrast between her gentleness and how she is in the bedroom. What is wrong with her liking the male form and sex that does not automatically make her a slut. She is an older character with experience and now can be devoted to MC. She has a past so what she's not 16.

 

[stgkjsrbgrsb]

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[OWSam000]

She is 56 and you lot seem to expect her to be a little blushing virgin. I think that says more about you than her. Personally I quite like the contrast between her gentleness and how she is in the bedroom. What is wrong with her liking the male form and sex that does not automatically make her a slut. She is an older character with experience and now can be devoted to MC. She has a past so what she's not 16.

No one really care if she is a virgin or not. The main focus of the whole argument/discussion about Aine isn't whether she is a virgin or not. It is the whole sex talk during the first sex scene with MC that whole erotic sex talk laid too thick and gave us players too much information that brought down our interest to her.

 

[OWSam000]

I forgot how Dev describe elves aging in this game. Can someone tell me is elves in this game age the same speed as human in their early age? Is elves in this game will age like human until certain years, then their age won't change?
Because most elves in common fantasy world is described growing very slowly compared to human. Is elves age being 40-50 can be really called a mature woman? I would think elves in the middle age of human is just like teenager age in elves.
If we can make it clear, then we may understand how Dev designing the setting of elves characters like Aine/other elves love interest/

 

[Sinnedfean]

I forgot how Dev describe elves aging in this game. Can someone tell me is elves in this game age the same speed as human in their early age? Is elves in this game will age like human until certain years, then their age won't change?
Because most elves in common fantasy world is described growing very slowly compared to human. Is elves age being 40-50 can be really called a mature woman? I would think elves in the middle age of human is just like teenager age in elves.
If we can make it clear, then we may understand how Dev designing the setting of elves characters like Aine/other elves love interest/

Since both bael and orl are 25 now i assume they age the same way as humans

 

[OWSam000]

Since both bael and orl are 25 now i assume they age the same way as humans

You are probably right. Then goes all my points.

 

[Meehaha]

No one really care if she is a virgin or not. The main focus of the whole argument/discussion about Aine isn't whether she is a virgin or not. It is the whole sex talk during the first sex scene with MC that whole erotic sex talk laid too thick and gave us players too much information that brought down our interest to her.

Personally thought it showed MC in a very good light compared to her previous lover or lovers. Definitely the best both in looks and deed. I think that was the Devs intention conversation carries on in the style of the quite forthright Grym women. I actually found it flattering and she agrees she is yours now even to the point of discussing getting the law about marriage changed.

 

[TsubameYui]

Personally thought it showed MC in a very good light compared to her previous lover or lovers. Definitely the best both in looks and deed. I think that was the Devs intention conversation carries on in the style of the quite forthright Grym women. I actually found it flattering and she agrees she is yours now even to the point of discussing getting the law about marriage changed.

It was just TMI. Most of us complaining about the scene don't care that she has a sexual history, we just really don't like hearing the details of said history. Until that scene, everyone, including Aine herself, was very vague about her sex life, to the extent that it was *possible* that she never had one.

Her dialogue during the scene was a very abrupt change to her character. Many of us do not find it "flattering" to have MC directly compared to past lovers, even if the comparisons are all in MC's favor. Juerhullycin's rewrite of the dialogue demonstrates that dev could have made the dialogue just as sexy and flattering to MC without bringing up Aine's past at all, while also making it much clearer that MC is the sole focus of her dick/cum fetish.

 

[Meehaha]

It was just TMI. Most of us complaining about the scene don't care that she has a sexual history, we just really don't like hearing the details of said history. Until that scene, everyone, including Aine herself, was very vague about her sex life, to the extent that it was *possible* that she never had one.

Her dialogue during the scene was a very abrupt change to her character. Many of us do not find it "flattering" to have MC directly compared to past lovers, even if the comparisons are all in MC's favor. Juerhullycin's rewrite of the dialogue demonstrates that dev could have made the dialogue just as sexy and flattering to MC without bringing up Aine's past at all, while also making it much clearer that MC is the sole focus of her dick/cum fetish.

Sorry but much prefer the Devs original vision. Personally find Juerhullycin's sanitised rewrite a bit sad. Feel a rewrite would be like telling Aine to shut up and not be her self. But whatever its fiction after all. Kind of glad TV/Film/Novels are just there. Would be lots less good writing and drama if everything was written by committee

 

[TsubameYui]

Sorry but much prefer the Devs original vision. Personally find Juerhullycin's sanitised rewrite a bit sad. Feel a rewrite would be like telling Aine to shut up and not be her self. But whatever its fiction after all. Kind of glad TV/Film/Novels are just there. Would be lots less good writing and drama if everything was written by committee

I actually agree with you more than you might think. I love well-written TV shows/films/novels, but those stories are generally intended to be viewed from a 3rd party perspective, whereas AVNs are almost always intended to be more of a self-insert/first person perspective. Tailoring the narrative to fit a wide range of target audience preferences and giving players choices are important parts of AVN development, and it's what makes AVNs a unique medium for storytelling.

"Writing by committee" is an effective tool for AVN development. Devs taking feedback and using it to give more options to players generally improves the overall appeal of the AVN. Unlike static media like TV, film, and novels, AVNs are interactive, so a developer can add more dialogue options without removing anything. Dev could give players a choice about whether Aine has a sexual past, or how much she discusses it. That would allow her to appeal to a wider audience without taking anything away.

Dev has already demonstrated his ability and willingness to give such choices with Cerys' scenes. There is a choice during one of her scenes whether or not to have her talk about the other LIs, and her bisexual fantasies about them, during sex. I actually found it rather odd that dev didn't give a similar choice at the start of Aine's scene, regarding talking about her past lovers.

 

[longjohngold]

This was interesting. It was well written and the world building is interesting, a litmus test of mine is always if I feel like skipping at any point and I didn't here. I'm looking forward to reading through more of the story in the future. MC is a bit of a Mary Sue, but it's sufficiently well written that I wasn't distracted by it, and only really thought of it now when reflecting back. Though there's a little too much nicey nicey understanding and whatnot, from everyone, and it does feel very out of place to the setting of the powerful and rich and whatnot.

Only real demerit, and this'll be highly subjective, is that I'm not particularly taken with any of the LI. One of the issues here is them generally being vastly overboobed, Leala looks down right comical and otherwise mighta been my type, and Aerion has fallen into the pitfall lots of muscular characters seem to of absurdity with her chest. One slight, non-aesthetic, issue I have is that lots of the MC and Cerys's relationship is based on aspects prior to the game, so I as the reader don't really feel it, if that makes sense, so there's a disconnect where she's the wife but one of the ones I have the least interest in. Of the offerings I suppose Anwen is probably the best, I was glad when her nipple piercings return after her first scene. Aine also does some good dirty talk, I'm hoping she'll be the first one we can impregnate. Given the setting I wonder if there'll be some hot demonic or ashen darken elf antagonist in the future that might be more my jam.

I'm glad the Cenric lady brought it up because I'm so thinking the old man is behind this all. Not in an evil kinda way but sending the MC contracts before was to train him a bit, the attack was to force the wards to work together - which is what he's mainly angling for, etc. I dunno if I'd pin the murders on him yet though.

 

[slick97]

It was just TMI. Most of us complaining about the scene don't care that she has a sexual history, we just really don't like hearing the details of said history. Until that scene, everyone, including Aine herself, was very vague about her sex life, to the extent that it was *possible* that she never had one.

Her dialogue during the scene was a very abrupt change to her character. Many of us do not find it "flattering" to have MC directly compared to past lovers, even if the comparisons are all in MC's favor. Juerhullycin's rewrite of the dialogue demonstrates that dev could have made the dialogue just as sexy and flattering to MC without bringing up Aine's past at all, while also making it much clearer that MC is the sole focus of her dick/cum fetish.

If I'm understanding the whole discussion correctly - and going off of the rewrite mentioned - then it seems the crux of the issue is people misunderstood Aine's sexy talk as referring to her past partners rather than a generalized reference. Having proofread and tested that specific scene (Howl can also attest to this) I assumed Aine was talking about us without explicitly saying "you".

The part I take issue with is the claims of what Aine should say/do as being more correct than what the dev originally wrote.

 

[Zang]

Dam this game is so good its pretty much perfect for me, idk if I can wait until the next update