VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

[Ceolag]

Hey there,

As i said back then and it still holds true.. 'Best Release/Title That week' or something to that effect..
Your hard work and dedication to making it look cinematic paid off..
i now even have a deeper understanding of your work load after talking with you and your reasons for not seeking funding But if you ever need any help just ask.. Its a title that desrves to be made and your handling of its narrative and the execution used thus far has been excellent..
As good as some of the 'latest releases' has been since Neverwhere's VN debut.. (at least in my opinion and judgement) there hasnt been any close to the TOTAL quality that this delivered and It only whets the appetite for more..
For me personally.. Oceanlabs - Summer Gone/Where it all Began was and is the benchmark in VN Overall Quality and storytelling and your project has what makes his titles work in heaps.. Animation and outstanding visuals dont always make the story.. the narrative and how you set out your scenes like a movie director.. the angles.. the lighting.. These are your qualities that put your work up there chasing at Oceans heels

Thanks again for your kind words. Kinda funny how you chose Ocean out of all those great devs around.
Guess whats on the 2nd monitor at the moment when I'm waiting for DAZ to complete its stupid 15minute loading times for some scenes.... Summer's Gone.
Of course I'm nowhere near Ocean in every regard. I'm fully aware. But what he's doing especially with his visuals is definitely an inspiration.

the girls aside from blondie are....not great looking....neither is the MC, he looks like the type that has to trim his unibrow. aside from that and the grainy renders, the story is alright, though there isn't much of one yet. right now it's not dresden files, it's just jason bourne. i AM happy that you let me plug that merc, that's the only call to make there. also, maybe i'm missing something, but where's the sexual content?

Thanks for your feedback. So 1 out of 3. Definitely not that good but at least not a complete failure
Regarding the grainy renders the are a few I'm not happy with for sure. And I'll probably rework them in the future. But not the near future as right now I'm focused on getting more content done. Maybe when Book 1 is finished.
As far as sexual content goes, Cookiemonster answered that. There's nothing more at the moment.

 

[Crowangel]

Hey there,



Thanks again for your kind words. Kinda funny how you chose Ocean out of all those great devs around.
Guess whats on the 2nd monitor at the moment when I'm waiting for DAZ to complete its stupid 15minute loading times for some scenes.... Summer's Gone.
Of course I'm nowhere near Ocean in every regard. I'm fully aware. But what he's doing especially with his visuals is definitely an inspiration.



Thanks for your feedback. So 1 out of 3. Definitely not that good but at least not a complete failure
Regarding the grainy renders the are a few I'm not happy with for sure. And I'll probably rework them in the future. But not the near future as right now I'm focused on getting more content done. Maybe when Book 1 is finished.
As far as sexual content goes, Cookiemonster answered that. There's nothing more at the moment.

given the time and effort he puts in i doubt anyone can achieve that quality without a full team behind them and dedicating their working life to that ambition.. but when your in a situation where thats not possible you do what you can and your already meeting those expectations if you can call it that..
STORY first and foremost makes a good vn.. you ticked that box..
Characters - both in design and creating an interest in them through the writing - Tick that box
Animation - Not essential but a WIP and much like ocean you can go back an fix what you want at any prior chapter release..


My childhood.. Teens and everything up to my 40's has been influenced by various cinematic and creative influences.. From star wars, to matrix... Gantz (Anime and Manga books) (fyi the retractable samurai sword was exactly same in that) Movies such as Underworld (franchise) all established a visual style of what i came to love and Neverwhere meets so many of those influences that i still love to this day..

You dont have to get to ocean quality work.. not on your schedual.. But the work your giving us so far if the future is anything to go by that ambush scene will be great for this title..

 

[Freki.g]

Hey there,



Thanks again for your kind words. Kinda funny how you chose Ocean out of all those great devs around.
Guess whats on the 2nd monitor at the moment when I'm waiting for DAZ to complete its stupid 15minute loading times for some scenes.... Summer's Gone.
Of course I'm nowhere near Ocean in every regard. I'm fully aware. But what he's doing especially with his visuals is definitely an inspiration.

Anyone will agree that a VN must contain a good story as well as spectacular renderings and animations, but a developer (like the one you referenced) who works on a project sporadically (updates with eight months of timing are not feasible) does not deserve to be cited if not for the reputation of shamelessly taking advantage of the considerable financial support he has obtained and continues to obtain, spoiled and encouraged by the same supporters.

I call it a demage to the entire industry, as so many devs attempt to replicate (albeit in part) such obscure techniques with the ensuing consequences of milking or abandonment.

To conclude, it is not necessary that you compare yourself to someone, your project today has all the potential to become a success but, at this moment, no one can bet on your transparent or obscure intentions, on which it depends the interest or the abandonment of following its development.

I add: those like me who follow this sector in a certain way know that capable and serious devs develop their projects with monthly / bimonthly updates and with a completion time of around two years.

Hi.

 

[Faptime]

Nice first release! I hope no negative outcome results from shooting the Merc leader that was trying to kill MC's gf and kidnap MC. If there was some option to take the Merc and interrogate him, then that's the only reason to not kill him. Like he said himself, no witnesses. Kaija might be in more danger if he gets to report her involvement.

I'm glad that MCs sister didn't know anything as well because I dislike when MC is the only one in the dark.

And regardless of how much I like Kaija, she's been sleeping with MC as part of her job (there's a name for that, right?) and keeping the truth from him. Let's see if she can do enough to earn back MC's trust, because right now there is none.

MC's mom is in that position as well. I know it's going to be "we lied to you to keep you safe", but she failed on that and destroyed the trust MC might have for her. She can keep her damn distance as well. (Would have liked an option to not hug her at the house).

Definitely looking forward to more, though!

 

[Bedlamh]

Pretty good first chapter though short IMO. Can't wait for more.

 

[Simulacrum29]

could be graet as with an optional harem path, so it is saddly not for me.

 

[SamualHand]

could be graet as with an optional harem path, so it is saddly not for me.

It's great without a harem path!

 

[Ceolag]

My childhood.. Teens and everything up to my 40's has been influenced by various cinematic and creative influences.. From star wars, to matrix... Gantz (Anime and Manga books) (fyi the retractable samurai sword was exactly same in that) Movies such as Underworld (franchise) all established a visual style of what i came to love and Neverwhere meets so many of those influences that i still love to this day..

We like the same shit. Expect Anime/Manga which I never really got into consider all other things checked
So yeah it's probably less coincidental than expected that the game meets those influences.

To conclude, it is not necessary that you compare yourself to someone, your project today has all the potential to become a success but, at this moment, no one can bet on your transparent or obscure intentions, on which it depends the interest or the abandonment of following its development.

I add: those like me who follow this sector in a certain way know that capable and serious devs develop their projects with monthly / bimonthly updates and with a completion time of around two years.

I'm not comparing myself to other devs regarding their income or release cycle. Income for quite obvious reasons and release cycle because it'll take the time it takes.
I have a full time job (actually more than full time often enough) and this is a hobby. And it'll stay that way. It's one of the reason why I don't have a patreon page.
Releases will be in episodic format. When a chapter is done, I'll release it. That will take longer than 2 months for sure. If that makes me a less capable or serious dev, that I don't know. But since my "real" job is "serious dev" I can live with my hobby being "less serious dev"

MC's mom is in that position as well. I know it's going to be "we lied to you to keep you safe", but she failed on that and destroyed the trust MC might have for her. She can keep her damn distance as well. (Would have liked an option to not hug her at the house).

Definitely looking forward to more, though!

Thanks for your kind words and interest in general. At the point you mentioned MC doesn't know all that.
So the hug seemed natural to me.
But I'm not going to force some redemption shit onto the player. How you react in future towards mom and Kaija is up to the player.

could be graet as with an optional harem path, so it is saddly not for me.

I know there are a lot of players who love harem (and incest). That's why I wanted to make it clear as early as possible.
If the game is not for you because it's lacking a harem option that's perfectly fine. I cannot and won't please everybody.

 

[Crowangel]

We like the same shit. Expect Anime/Manga which I never really got into consider all other things checked
So yeah it's probably less coincidental than expected that the game meets those influences.

I'm the same when it comes to the majority however GANTZ sorta transends the anime barrier.. once the story gets going its addictive viewing or reading.. the second season broke away from the books that hadnt reached an end yet so they go in different directions but the 1st season episodes are very addictive.. alternativly since then a short animated CGI movie was also made called Gantz:O which is more closer to the visual novel level of quality instead of typical anime style.. well worth the viewing for inspirational creative viewing.. was on netflix but thats a while back.. story is basically two teens killed after being hit by a subway train while rescuing a tramp, on moment of death end up in a room in the middle of tokyo with several other 'recently departed' and a huge black sphere (gantz) they are then sent off on killer/assassin missions with sci fi weaponry inc the sword like yours.. to hunt a specific hidden alien being on earth.. most times almost all the assembled team getting killed or barely making it back to the room once the job was done.. once returned to the room all injuries are erased (if they survived) and points are awarded (with the goal to earn enough to go free and live again) has quite a few heartbreaking moments as characters you grew to care about were in mortal peril of not making it back... or even killed off (gantz can use points to ressurect a fallen team mate too) Well worth persisting past the first few episodes which can be a bit OTT on the dubbed version.. but the newer cgo gantz looks and acting much better.. but picks up the action mid story around the point the second season went off on its own story.. which this tries to continue where the books should have gone next..

 

[Freki.g]

I'm not comparing myself to other devs regarding their income or release cycle. Income for quite obvious reasons and release cycle because it'll take the time it takes.
I have a full time job (actually more than full time often enough) and this is a hobby. And it'll stay that way. It's one of the reason why I don't have a patreon page.
Releases will be in episodic format. When a chapter is done, I'll release it. That will take longer than 2 months for sure. If that makes me a less capable or serious dev, that I don't know. But since my "real" job is "serious dev" I can live with my hobby being "less serious dev"

Evidently you are right, I have abused the term because there is very little serious here, it must be replaced with commitment that makes the capable developers and their projects interesting to follow and I understand that this term in your case is not suitable since yours is an hobby activity.
For my part, nothing against it but only to clarify. So, have fun with your hobby.

 

[Deleted member 3483965]

DEv has no patreon?

 

[AngelsAfterDark]

No incest, apparently his parents adopted him? Also no harem, looks like the MC is an impotent and a cuck. The developer claims there will be no NTR here, but if you don't fuck the girl, someone else will, and what is that if not NTR?
Hmm, not surprised, looking at his girlfriend - she doesn't look like the best choice, was she a virgin before they met and before their first night together? I don't want to think that the MC is a loser, if he decided to build his relationship with a whore.
Will there be virgin girls here?

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[AngelsAfterDark]

This should be added in the OP, just to prevent some nasty surprises witth some unpleasant guys in the future.

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sounds like my kinda game with an ocean of porn driven games on here it's a rarity to find something like this. Sadly I don't see it becoming a success simply because of that reason. Good story/character driven games often don't see the light of day here mate but throw in a milf and a sister for the MC to fuck, nvm the story just have sex scene after sex scene and u got urself a winner mate, they come running with their money, it's just fucking sad is what it is

 

[goulet1995]

so iv seen this game wont have ntr incest or harem so my question is will i ever come across either hearing about or seein a LI or one of the family members with someone else if not on their path.

 

[hysepReC]

so iv seen this game wont have ntr incest or harem so my question is will i ever come across either hearing about or seein a LI or one of the family members with someone else if not on their path.

The dev has already said that you won't hear anything about a LI's love life if you don't choose her. Whether that also applies to the sister, i'm not sure but i'd assume she won't be hooking up with anyone.

 

[Benomind]

Thx
Another awesome game...

 

[Ceolag]

(full hd image here, 4k image on my Discord)

Hey guys,
time for another update.
Scene 1 is finally finished (Yay!) including the code and dialogue. In the end it's 185 renders. Chapter 1 had around 750 renders in total which means scene 1 of chapter 2 is around one quarter of the whole chapter 1, render wise.

Next things to do are the paths for the 2nd scene.
Yes, paths as this will be the first time where you have to choose your path. There will be 3 options in total, 1 of them being linked to decisions made in chapter 1 (which means it can be unavailable depending on your decisions in chapter 1).
I already know that one of these paths will take a while to do because I have a quite detailed vision of that in my head.

Last but not least I spent Thursday and Friday evenings on creating a new character and setting up the first render for her.
(see above)

DEv has no patreon?

As of now, No. I post all updates on Discord and here. The game won't be locked behind patreon tiers, even if I do set one up in the future.

sounds like my kinda game with an ocean of porn driven games on here it's a rarity to find something like this. Sadly I don't see it becoming a success simply because of that reason. Good story/character driven games often don't see the light of day here mate but throw in a milf and a sister for the MC to fuck, nvm the story just have sex scene after sex scene and u got urself a winner mate, they come running with their money, it's just fucking sad is what it is

You're absolutely right, Harem and Incest are the big sellers and I avoided them by choice.
If the game is a success or not depends. Right now it's a success because I like working on it. I don't need it to be a "financial success".
And it'll stay that way unless the rest of the world decides to fuck up economy even more.
In that case I have more srious problems than the game, though ;-)

so iv seen this game wont have ntr incest or harem so my question is will i ever come across either hearing about or seein a LI or one of the family members with someone else if not on their path.

No. There won't be any mention of boyfriends or whatever for the LI's and the sister. Doesnt matter if your on their path or not.
For the mother... well I already showed the dad, so... too late I guess

Have a nice rest of the weekend.
Cheers,
Ceolag

 

[Ceolag]

Hey there,
2 weeks passed by since the last update so I figured it was time for another one.
Work on scene 2 is going on, right now 2 out of 3 paths are rendered, written, and coded. The 3rd path is something where I'm challenging myself again since it contains something I haven't done before. At least not to this extent.
I have that scene, and how it should be playing out, in my mind since I started working on Chapter 2.
So finally getting to work on it is great fun. Quite a lot of work, tho. 90% of the poses I use in this scene are completely my own work. Meaning no DAZ assets were used, not even as a starting point. The reason is simple: none of the products are close to what I had in mind.
But you get the hang of it after 10 renders. Or 20...

The result will be a ~3minute long cutscene containing probably around 100 renders and at least 3-4 animations. All of them choreographed to a specific song.
The render total right now is around 270 renders with another ~30 posed and waiting in the queue.

Have a nice weekend, guys.
Cheers,
Ceolag

 

[BagelzAndStuff]

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Hey there,
2 weeks passed by since the last update so I figured it was time for another one.
Work on scene 2 is going on, right now 2 out of 3 paths are rendered, written, and coded. The 3rd path is something where I'm challenging myself again since it contains something I haven't done before. At least not to this extent.
I have that scene, and how it should be playing out, in my mind since I started working on Chapter 2.
So finally getting to work on it is great fun. Quite a lot of work, tho. 90% of the poses I use in this scene are completely my own work. Meaning no DAZ assets were used, not even as a starting point. The reason is simple: none of the products are close to what I had in mind.
But you get the hang of it after 10 renders. Or 20...

The result will be a ~3minute long cutscene containing probably around 100 renders and at least 3-4 animations. All of them choreographed to a specific song.
The render total right now is around 270 renders with another ~30 posed and waiting in the queue.

Have a nice weekend, guys.
Cheers,
Ceolag

My guy.. just wanted to say, you got one hell of a game here so far. The story is intriguing as hell, especially since I love the whole templar aspect too haha

But yeh, the story, the characters, everything so far is absolutely dope, I love it. I'm DEFINITELY keeping an eye on this piece. Looks like it might turn out to be one monster of a project.

Also, just a quick thanks for posting regular updates on here, it's really good to keep track with the progress and see how you're getting on.

Best of luck with the upcoming and future releases my guy, this one's a keeper.

 

[TheimmortalP]

I have two questions.

1. Does this game have music?

2. Can someone please post some screenshots with dialogue so I can get an idea for what it's like in this game?