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I understand what you say but having genuine feelings, being sad how it turned out won't undo what she had done. No redemption for her. I am guessing she has devastating backstory how she joined the Templars. Most likely it's about her family. It can even make sense, how she became a cult devotee. I may even feel sad for her what she has been through but no, no redemption no forgiveness. When the time comes and she feel the knife that she used backstabbing MC on her back, that will be the closure for MC. So I understand but I don't agree with you.
Sounds like you are slacking ngl.
I am not forgiving person generally. When the time comes and people ask forgiveness, when they explained why they did it. I usually say I do understand why they did it but they don't have a place in my life. Life is too short to be forgiving or holding grudge. Let it go but never forgive is my mindset on these situation.
It reminds me a few other games tbh. I.e. Cassie from Artemis, she probably had her reasons why she betrayed MC but there can't be redemption for her. Or Steph from Leap of Faith, she had her reasons I do understand I wish her happy life, away from MC. Or Ana from Acting Lessons, she betrayed MC. She was right in her mind but that does not make what she did acceptable. No redemption for her too. Or Marie from Triple Ex. She did what she did to save MC's life in her mind but that broke MC. Not only her but entire family betrayed MC. No redemption for them either. All betrayed, some hurt more than others and all of them had their reasons but if they choose to betray with whatever their reason, that is the end of it.
- May 6, 2023
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Definitely agree. I play the Kaija love path because I think she can be redeemed. I hate what her and the parents did. She was young, she has the chance to sort out her life in the story ahead and redeem herself. Whether I can be persuaded enough to change my dislike for her to positive feelings remains to be seen. Although, I don't hate her but I don't like her either. I have had a change of heart over characters in VNs before (for example Steph in Leap of Faith), so I am open to changing my mind about Kaija. I think Kaija's character is interesting enough to play all her paths.
- Jul 17, 2021
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I guess you also think the succubus who tried to kill you can be redeemed also?
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Ceolag gave us the raw numbers, but it was another irregular week so we need to interpolate a bit. 120 statics, 0 animations and 221 line over 8 days works out to roughly 105 statics, 0.0 animations and 190 lines per standard week. Overall, the average now stands at ~86 statics, 2.6 animations, and 230 lines per week since work on Chapter 5 officially began. Here are the charts:
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I guess you also think the succubus who tried to kill you can be redeemed also?
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all comes down to context for me combined with my personality im unable to have a harsh view or reaction towards people. In this scenario hell no she did that shit on purpose she is a killer. But under a certain context or scenario I would think she could be redeemed for sure.I guess you also think the succubus who tried to kill you can be redeemed also?
- Oct 10, 2022
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How do you know though? Maybe she was just unable to control her emotions and she just momentarily went insane and lashed out tryin to feed to help herself?
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She was just confused and misunderstoodI guess you also think the succubus who tried to kill you can be redeemed also?
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haha that was one of scenario's that ran through my head that she could be redeemed as I was tying my reply
- Dec 4, 2022
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If you are married, if you can believe in Kaija's redemption, all the times my wife used me as a laboratory RAT to try her magic recipes that I saw on the Internet, I love my wife but just in case my will is already madeI guess you also think the succubus who tried to kill you can be redeemed also?
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- Aug 22, 2018
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She was already being hunted so did something to put her on their radar not to mention the later conversation with the Elves about demons being seen again after the war they had with them to push them back.
So demons are on the move, she was there to kill.
- Oct 10, 2022
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She is actually more redeemable than Kaija. Hunting is in her nature. I'd never wrong a lion for hunting a gazelle, sure it's a sad scene but that how nature works. As for Erika too. Is being a backstabbing bitch is in Kaija's blood? Actually yeah, so they are more or less same.
- Jul 17, 2021
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Well, it's actually a moot point. As the white girl(double entendre is intended here) caught up to her and ended any redemption arc that may have been feasibly argued.
Maybe, maybe not. We'll never know though. But I was just bein facetious and continuin my point about Kaija in a response to Grumpy Old Aussie
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This does raise one of the real questions though: if the MC has 0 points with Kaija, did he actually love her? I'm inclined to think not. The two clearly weren't on the same page in terms of how they like being treated and aren't especially forgiving of the others' habits. Given the retroactive backstory at play, it seems likely the MC's attitude towards Kaija was as tepid as her attitude towards him.
Obviously this is problematic since WE are the MC and just because we picked an action doesn't necessarily mean we buy into the way the game interprets that action (especially early on when we're still getting the lay of the land). But that's water under the bridge at this point.
Steph and Ana are good comparisons to Kaija, but Cassandra is not. There's a big difference between taking advantage of someone and actively trying to destroy them. Cassandra not only deceived her MC, she deliberately stole his life's work and career opportunity, leaving with nothing - to the point he nearly killed himself. Then, when she learned he was trying to rebuild his life, she badmouthed him to prospective employers just for fun.
That's a level of malice even the MC's parents in this game can't match.
Gosh, you're right I hadn't considered it from that angle before.
I guess I'll have to reevaluate the succubus' actions in light of the full history between her and the MC, mindful of the mitigating factors that might apply.Oh wait, that's right, her trying to kill the MC was their entire history together. Never mind. Back to the stake with her!
- Apr 9, 2018
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I was comparing them on betrayal front. I think Steph is much better than others too. Cassandra had her reasons, she even thought she was right. Probably same as Kaija she had problems with her family which lay the path.
I am not entirely sure about this. His mother tried to hide things even after everything revealed. MC has every right to despise Templars but when he makes a joke on Eric, she tried to shut MC up. She even blamed MC(using the verb loosely here) for Paul's death. If they somehow convinced to push MC to near suicide, they'd do it in a heatbeat.
- Jul 17, 2021
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Actually, no. It wasn't. She tried to seduce him first. She was already in a very bad emotional state and when he refused her, she became confused and attacked him.
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I didn't refuse her on mine I want to see what some hot succubus sex was likeActually, no. It wasn't. She tried to seduce him first. She was already in a very bad emotional state and when he refused her, she became confused and attacked him.