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VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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AlexMpog

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I just wanted to intervene for my own sake. I couldn't handle another interesting thread falling down.
I sooo feel you!

Unfortunately at least for few my former favorite threads the train has already gone.

I just muted them cause at some moment it became unbearable.

*This thread is fun though, well, most of the time.:p
 
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Quetzzz

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Well never the less it was more a joke comment im not serious like those guys.
Are you certain those guys aren't just having some fun either?

If it's not that it's kaija hate which is the same thing. Seriously all anyone talks about in here is how evil she is.
That's not true... Several people, including you, talk about worshiping the ground she walks on. ;-)
 
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Joshy92

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Are you certain those guys aren't just having some fun either?


That's not true... Several people, including you, talk about worshiping the ground she walks on. ;-)
Not anymore I'm not going to bother. This thread is toxic for Kaija fans.
 
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AlexMpog

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I rarely post in this thread. My inanity can at times be off the charts. :ROFLMAO:
Well, I like this thread so far, I mean, well, not because you rarely post here, obviously:KEK:

I know that guys mostly just joke around, but I would assume that if i were Kajia's simp I would be offended, good that I am not;)
 

Joshy92

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And I'm worried that all the dev sees is people complaining about Kaija so he eventually decides to kill her off or make her just a side girl.
The stress and worry about that is really getting to me.

It wouldn't be the first time that's happened.
 

Old Grumpy Wolf

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Not anymore I'm not going to bother. This thread is toxic for Kaija fans.
There's a button that's made for toxic fucks, lil bro.

Well, I like this thread so far, I mean, well, not because you rarely post here, obviously:KEK:

I know that guys mostly just joke around, but I would assume that if i were Kajia's simp I would be offended, good that I am not;)
I was mainly over the top about the Templars. As for Kaija, mostly everyone knows I tried to love her. But I just couldn't simp. Her actions were too much. Even on her love path. At the end of the first release and her saying that she needed time and that she didn't know if she could choose us and the the Templars, made my blood boil.
 

Joshy92

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There's a button that's made for toxic fucks, lil bro.


I was mainly over the top about the Templars. As for Kaija, mostly everyone knows I tried to love her. But I just couldn't simp. Her actions were too much. Even on her love path. At the end of the first release and her saying that she needed time and that she didn't know if she could choose us and the the Templars, made my blood boil.
Yeah, I know but all the dev sees is Kaija hate. I don't want that to affect her storyline or anything.
 

MiltonPowers

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And I'm worried that all the dev sees is people complaining about Kaija so he eventually decides to kill her off or make her just a side girl.
The stress and worry about that is really getting to me.

It wouldn't be the first time that's happened.
I thought it had been a lot better recently. I haven't seen the hate that I used to, but maybe as she's not my favorite, I just haven't noticed.

Remember that Ceo said he would start killing off future LIs if the DTK comments didn't stop. I know he was joking, but it's pretty clear he loves her too. He won't be killing her off.
 

AlexMpog

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I was mainly over the top about the Templars. As for Kaija, mostly everyone knows I tried to love her. But I just couldn't simp. Her actions were too much. Even on her love path. At the end of the first release and her saying that she needed time and that she didn't know if she could choose us and the the Templars, made my blood boil.
Yeah, I challenged myself, I'm gonna try to play her love path after steam release, but it already feels like I will be stepping over myself, I mean, I have right to be angry at her, right?
It's not like people went full rampage on her just because she exists.

And it feels - that in order to get on her love path I'll have to go full simp route, ehh, we'll see.

Maybe after replaying I will join Kaija's cult :LOL: NO!!!
 

nitkonikic

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You never have to worry about Ceolag altering anything. The story will always go the way he planned.
Going to be honest, even I tried to tone down on both jokes and serious discussion regarding Kaija (can't resist sometimes to make a small jab) because of worrying it might, even slightly, affect the way Ceolag progresses story.
Sure, I hate her, but at the same time, Ceolag has done wonders to show MC can stand on his own feet, argument his case properly and express his dislike (if going down that route).

Problem is, so far rest of the girls simply haven't done that much to warrant some deep discussion.
There was a bit of it, yes, but currently it's mostly just "straight-line".
Granted, what did Fiona do in the past, what is she, who exactly is her family, what will be consequences of telling Elea to investigate Neverwhere more, all of those are interesting, but we're not there yet.

So it keeps circling back to Kaija, and I don't know what more I can say about her that I didn't say somewhere around page 20-50, when 2nd update came out.

Side comment, people, ignore button is there for a reason. Use it. I have few people from this very thread on my ignore list. Frequent posters. Someone annoys you, use ignore.

EDIT: And to conclude, Kaija is most interesting character by far. Different person based on which route is taken, amazingly written, interesting, conflicted in her feelings (love path) and well worth exploring. Just wish it wasn't always same few people exploring her.
I'd genuinely love to be able to hide 50% of this thread from new guys, just to see what they would say about her if some of us weren't here.
 

Lancastle

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Yeah, I challenged myself, I'm gonna try to play her love path after steam release, but it already feels like I will be stepping over myself, I mean, I have right to be angry at her, right?
It's not like people went full rampage on her just because she exists.

And it feels - that in order to get on her love path I'll have to go full simp route, ehh, we'll see.

Maybe after replaying I will join Kaija's cult :LOL: NO!!!
You don't have to Simp to understand the real story... Just don't rush to conclusions and let her explain it. If then you still wish to burn her... I got torches waiting LOL
 

Lancastle

Dev of The Dragonspire
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Jun 8, 2021
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Going to be honest, even I tried to tone down on both jokes and serious discussion regarding Kaija (can't resist sometimes to make a small jab) because of worrying it might, even slightly, affect the way Ceolag progresses story.
Sure, I hate her, but at the same time, Ceolag has done wonders to show MC can stand on his own feet, argument his case properly and express his dislike (if going down that route).

Problem is, so far rest of the girls simply haven't done that much to warrant some deep discussion.
There was a bit of it, yes, but currently it's mostly just "straight-line".
Granted, what did Fiona do in the past, what is she, who exactly is her family, what will be consequences of telling Elea to investigate Neverwhere more, all of those are interesting, but we're not there yet.

So it keeps circling back to Kaija, and I don't know what more I can say about her that I didn't say somewhere around page 20-50, when 2nd update came out.

Side comment, people, ignore button is there for a reason. Use it. I have few people from this very thread on my ignore list. Frequent posters. Someone annoys you, use ignore.
That's storytelling. Start with known characters, resolve their issues, and then introduce new ones gradually.
 

Dessolos

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I thought it had been a lot better recently. I haven't seen the hate that I used to, but maybe as she's not my favorite, I just haven't noticed.
Honestly it has been Alot better this last month it been alot more chill even with some of the hate Kaija comments. Don't want to name any names but there was one person that got under my skin more when it came to the hate Kaija stuff every other thread he was chill so I never muted him lol.

Like I know everyone more or less joking about it and the majority of the guys around this thread are pretty light hearted and chill about it. But the person I don't want to name felt like that was most of his replies to me when I talked good about her and would start a hate Kaija spam train. So over time it would build up and get to me so I avoided talking about her for a long time on this thread unless bored. Now days such more relaxed and I feel like I can actually say good things about her without it being a constant hate spam train, only every once in awhile it turns into that which is fine and usually pretty funny.
 
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