VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I may have cheated on Kaija with Kari and Fin last update haha. Honestly if Kari wasn't a side girl she be one of my favorites tho I suspect she isn't a full fledge Templar on Kaija but more someone that is allied with them.

Again you shock me Dess, I would never have expected you would cheated on your beloved Kaija. Is her angel halo slipping? Or just your halo?

 

[TrixRabbit]

I may have cheated on Kaija with Kari and Fin last update haha. Honestly if Kari wasn't a side girl she be one of my favorites tho I suspect she isn't a full fledge Templar like Kaija but more someone that is allied with them.

Hmmm ... that could get complicated. I may form different alliances in different saves but definitely not with the Templars.

 

[xapican]

I may have cheated on Kaija with Kari and Fin last update haha. Honestly if Kari wasn't a side girl she be one of my favorites tho I suspect she isn't a full fledge Templar like Kaija but more someone that is allied with them.

But one of the perks of the Kaija neutral / or the hate path is ...

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[Dessolos]

Again you shock me Dess, I would never have expected you would cheated on your beloved Kaija. Is her angel halo slipping? Or just your halo?

haha well lets say I was feeling lazy as I only had 1 love path save and I want to replay all paths anyways so I said fuck it lets see all the content. Though I did end up liking Fin more than Kaija

 

[TrixRabbit]

haha well lets say I was feeling lazy as I only had 1 love path save and I want to replay all paths anyways so I said fuck it lets see all the content. Though I did end up liking Fin more than Kaija

SEE! FIN! Oh and you thought Fin would be dangerous to have an argument with, imagine Kari ... the Valkerie literally choose who is going to die today. She doesn't even have to touch you ... just go "that one."

 

[Maviarab]

The original, which served as model is one of the Grûndlingen swords they had only a bronze hilt, with antopomorphic form, (it is posted somewhere in the begining of this thread, don't remeber if it was mentioned with what materials it was made in the Novel though.

IIRC the details are in the Lore & Legend thread.

 

[TrixRabbit]

Since no one asked, at some point, in some game, some character needs to break the 4th wall and complain about everyone talking shit about them on F95.

 

[xapican]

IIRC the details are in the Lore & Legend thread.

Ah yes you moved them now I remember.

 

[adanu]

Talking good about Kaija on this thread be like

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I have no problem with her personally. She was put in an impossible situation. My problem is because of the way things went down, you can never know if her professed love for you is part of her mission or not. She's a good enough actor that I wouldn't be able to tell.


I wish it weren't so, but I just cannot trust the Templars in general after all the bullshit they've tried.

 

[TrixRabbit]

Especially since the parents motives don’t even add up. You don’t protect someone who is a high value target by not telling them they’re a target or telling them what to watch out for or teaching them how to defend themselves. You also don’t give them a bodyguard who is never actually with them or easy to get ahold of. So, what? She’ll be able to let someone know with 48 to 72 hours if you die or go missing? I also don’t like how Kaija changes depending on your path - if you pretend everything is fine she’s lovey dovey but if you get angry and ditch her she’s ambivalent - makes it seem like she’s acting.

 

[Dessolos]

I have no problem with her personally. She was put in an impossible situation. My problem is because of the way things went down, you can never know if her professed love for you is part of her mission or not. She's a good enough actor that I wouldn't be able to tell.


I wish it weren't so, but I just cannot trust the Templars in general after all the bullshit they've tried.

Not for me on the Love path. I agree about the Templars but for me I felt like I could tell she did loved you on the love path personally and is struggling to stay loyal to the Templars like her loyalty to the Templars is wavering but that is just my personal interpretation.

I also don’t like how Kaija changes depending on your path - if you pretend everything is fine she’s lovey dovey but if you get angry and ditch her she’s ambivalent - makes it seem like she’s acting.

I think this where it helps being able to separate all her paths into different version of the same character. For me I see Kaija being 3 different characters base on your path. So my opinion of the Hate and friend path doesn't effect my opinion of her on the Love path since I separate them. But if you dislike her before picking the path yeah it won't help much just might take you from wanting to kill her to not wanting to kill her for example since I know you mentioned a few times you can't wait to off her.

 

[Vasy]

I also don’t like how Kaija changes depending on your path - if you pretend everything is fine she’s lovey dovey but if you get angry and ditch her she’s ambivalent - makes it seem like she’s acting.

Yeah, she can change her story completely mid-playthrough depending on your choices. I'll quote myself from earlier in the thread:

You can get all or most of her points in the beginning of the VN, and during the conversation with the MC, Jessica, their mother, and Kaija at the table, Kaija indicates that her feelings for the MC were genuine. However, if the MC is (understandably) cold to her following that discussion, later at HQ she says that the relationship was a convenience that she was too much of a coward to back out of. The high RP version of that dialogue is once again about her feelings being genuine.

 

[Krytax123]

I think this where it helps being able to separate all her paths into different version of the same character. For me I see Kaija being 3 different characters base on your path. So my opinion of the Hate and friend path doesn't effect my opinion of her on the Love path since I separate them. But if you dislike her before picking the path yeah it won't help much just might take you from wanting to kill her to not wanting to kill her for example since I know you mentioned a few times you can't wait to off her.

I think thats kinda the crux for Kaija, this isnt the same person reactiving different, its a different version of Kaija depending on the path youre on.

Im like you and like her, i think its mostly players who self insert a lot and "share" the emotions with the mc who cant stand her and are kinda throwing all versions of her in one bag (which is of course everyone free to do so).

I think a lot of people didnt even played the full points kaija love path and have no clue about her love-path version

I wouldnt put that on the character tho, its obviously a idea from the dev how the mc can start the story with a gf without the player feeling bad for the breakup (because its justified and even feels right on the non-love path).

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Not for me on the Love path. I agree about the Templars but for me I felt like I could tell she did loved you on the love path personally and is struggling to stay loyal to the Templars like her loyalty to the Templars is wavering but that is just my personal interpretation.


I think this where it helps being able to separate all her paths into different version of the same character. For me I see Kaija being 3 different characters base on your path. So my opinion of the Hate and friend path doesn't effect my opinion of her on the Love path since I separate them. But if you dislike her before picking the path yeah it won't help much just might take you from wanting to kill her to not wanting to kill her for example since I know you mentioned a few times you can't wait to off her.

That is a good way to look at it Dess. I'd call it love path, middle path and angry path. I don't get the vibe she hates the MC on any path. Kaija loves him, is in between love and friend, or just sees him as a friend. It's a bit hard for the MC to 'hate' her yet. He has to process all the shit that went down. I'd be very angry and hurt. hate might come later. Depends.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Talking good about Kaija on this thread be like

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[xapican]

What about Nightingale ? does anyone know if she will play a role in future chapters ?
and I'm wondering about Kate ? (Barista) and Angus as well they seem to have a conection to Neverwhere

 

[e6mill]

and I'm wondering about Kate ? (Barista) and Angus as well they seem to have a conection to Neverwhere

Isn't the bar's bricked-up basement a gate?

 

[HornyyPussy]

What about Nightingale ? does anyone know if she will play a role in future chapters ?
and I'm wondering about Kate ? (Barista) and Angus as well they seem to have a conection to Neverwhere

If we don't get more Nightingale Ceo might get a slap! She's awesome!

 

[e6mill]

If we don't get more Nightingale Ceo might get a slap! She's awesome!

We have to thumb wrestle her (or something like that) for the sword yet...

 

[xapican]

Isn't the bar's bricked-up basement a gate?

yep, that was hinted