VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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Joshy92

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Medb is mysterious, powerful and beautiful, sooooooo my type. If she was blonde she would be perfect. I'm so looking forward to her LI path.
She acts all cold and distant, but I bet deep down she is a giant softie
I'll probably do a playthrough for her in the future.
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

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Don't worry everyone
Kaija & I will be ok
Our relationship is strong it can survive anything

Also, just so everyone knows
I already have my box of condoms ready I don't want any little Joshy's running around just yet.
Joshy I am old, broken and Aussie so I have an excuse for my crazy.
I'm not sure about you apart from being Aussie, I wondering about whats running around in your head. Little Joshies might be the least of your worries mate
 

Ceolag

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Will the girls that are labeled has side girls gonna be able to have a relatioship with them ( like on BADIK)?
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I haven't played BaDIK in a long time (since the Interlude), so I'm not up to date with how it handles the side girls today.
There won't be a relationship with any of the side girls outside things like the friends with benefits with Anissa.
No romantic relationship planned because that would actually mean a full path for them thus making them an LI and not a side girl. ;)

i love the tribute to bud spencer und terence hill :love:

thank you dev, that was both funny and a wonderful memory
I grew up with their movies and I still love them. Won't be the last tribute, probably.
Der Weg zum Griechen immer lohnt, auch wenn man etwas weiter wohnt. :ROFLMAO:

I have already readied my stake, Kaija will love it. :devilish:

Damn... now I want to do a Buffy tribute too.:(
 

molitar

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OK I read prologue says no harem does this mean you are not able to get all the girls if so I'm definitely out. If that is the case that there is no multiple endings is a lie because you can ONLY get one girl and that is multiple endings. I hate multiple ending games I play a game one time and that is it I know the story and don't have an interest in replaying something I already know.
 

Joshy92

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Something I really like about Kaija is that she won't take crap from anybody women like her kick arse
In fact, if I'm ever being an idiot, I hope she slaps me and tells me I'm being stupid.
 
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Something I really like about Kaija is that she won't take crap from anybody women like her kick arse
In fact, if I'm ever being an idiot, I hope she slaps me and tells me I'm being stupid.
Are you sure about that Joshy or is she slapped you too hard that you forgot she follows Templar orders like a very well trained dog?
 
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She has only followed their orders because they indoctrinated her
Does not make her less guilty though, also iirc she mentioned a few times she chose that path. Most likely it's related to her parents death.

But that wall is slowly crumbling
They won't be able to control her forever.
You are delusional if you think that. For example, when she got ordered to clear the path to the meeting point she went there without asking question, when MC questioned that she replied with Linnae must have a reason or something within that meaning. She does not question anything and there is no wall that crumbling. They will always have full control over her, she is no more than a dog, a puppet in their hands.

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Please reread this whole scene, if you really want to know what's her stance about Templar order.
 
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Dr.TSoni

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Well she is not a soldier though, she is a cult devotee. ;)

Also good soldiers does not follow orders blindly, they do follow laws. It is a weak defence when you are court marshalled. Or when you get a trial at Hague. After all, almost all military around the world has a law about disobeying unlawful orders. ;)
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Jokes aside, the situation is very 50/50
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Maviarab

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As you know I am against the Templars...this is not just an in-game choice.

Ultimately (and not something I've seen discussed in detail yet) we could do with knowing (Ceolag ??) to what extent the templars are based on when it comes to real life history and their origins beginning with King Solomon. Sure they did some good...but they were no longer the good guys as soon as they became a political organisation fixated with christian religious fanatical beliefs that tried to take over Europe. Did they originally help poor folk? Sure. Did they also slaughter hundreds of thousands of innocent people? Sure, they also did that too.

Without knowing the devs actual intention regarding them (the old adage of...when did we become the bad guys?) it's difficult to really make a decision as to whether to trust them or not. However, even since their inception almost a thousand years ago, their traces still remain to this day (most notably within the Freemasons) and sorry, but no iteration of them has ever really been of the 'good guys'...

This is one of the main reasons this VN interests me, the Templars have long been a fascination to me as a historical subject.
 

xapican

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As you know I am against the Templars...this is not just an in-game choice.

Ultimately (and not something I've seen discussed in detail yet) we could do with knowing (Ceolag ??) to what extent the templars are based on when it comes to real life history and their origins beginning with King Solomon. Sure they did some good...but they were no longer the good guys as soon as they became a political organisation fixated with christian religious fanatical beliefs that tried to take over Europe. Did they originally help poor folk? Sure. Did they also slaughter hundreds of thousands of innocent people? Sure, they also did that too.

Without knowing the devs actual intention regarding them (the old adage of...when did we become the bad guys?) it's difficult to really make a decision as to whether to trust them or not. However, even since their inception almost a thousand years ago, their traces still remain to this day (most notably within the Freemasons) and sorry, but no iteration of them has ever really been of the 'good guys'...

This is one of the main reasons this VN interests me, the Templars have long been a fascination to me as a historical subject.
I share this facination with the Knight Templars, although I have a more benevolent view of the Original Order.
TLDR: The Order is originated from the St Francis brotherhood, they were the Armed arm of the Vatican in former days
they had to vow "humilty, and poorness" no personal posesions for them, also they live under the celibate, originally the order protected the trading routes, and the merchant caravans from the sacred land to europe they are called Knight Templars because they headquarter was the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem, they were Monks, with habits, and trained in combat, they become like an elite corps within the years, they also had a system that when a rich Busnisess man wanted to carry gold from one city to another he went to the next templar post paid there and get a document back acrediting him to recive the same amout back once reached the destination paid from the treasure of the post.
The Order became wealthy and powerfull trough out the years, and rivalized with the St Johns order of the Hospitalarian knights.
Anyways they were an "Hermetic order withing the St Francis brotherhood" with strong rules and own rituals.
Im researching them, and other Hermetic organisations since almost 16 yrs now, I only can encourage you to look for material, and make your own picture about them.
Of course they were a few "rotten eggs" within the great masters,
The fact that their finacial power, plus military power, and their own secret rituals, contributed to their diapearace, It was one French King who needed the money of them and one pope who felt threatend by their power to take them down using the "Holy Inquisition" fun fact is that the unlucky friday 13 is founded by the raid to catch the great master of the Knight Templars in France. after that the order got disolved by the Vatican, and their great grandmasters excomunicated, inprisoned, and executed, anyway the Order surived as and Hermetic brotherhood In Spain, Germany, England and South France.
Edit: this is a brief and incomplete resume from what I remeber out of my head, I don't want to go into a detailed discuassion or getting corrected by some if someone is intersted in the historical facts, go and make your own picture about it.
 

Slick Bean

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Israeli soldiers entered Gaza to wage war on somebody they did not even identify or seek out,
does this make them assholes and murderors just like all the knights who slaughtered everyone in Jerusalem centuries ago to ”take the city for Christ” ???
Well she is not a soldier though, she is a cult devotee. ;)

Also good soldiers does not follow orders blindly, they do follow laws. It is a weak defence when you are court marshalled. Or when you get a trial at Hague. After all, almost all military around the world has a law about disobeying unlawful orders. ;)
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Jokes aside, the situation is very 50/50
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As you know I am against the Templars...this is not just an in-game choice.

Ultimately (and not something I've seen discussed in detail yet) we could do with knowing (Ceolag ??) to what extent the templars are based on when it comes to real life history and their origins beginning with King Solomon. Sure they did some good...but they were no longer the good guys as soon as they became a political organisation fixated with christian religious fanatical beliefs that tried to take over Europe. Did they originally help poor folk? Sure. Did they also slaughter hundreds of thousands of innocent people? Sure, they also did that too.

Without knowing the devs actual intention regarding them (the old adage of...when did we become the bad guys?) it's difficult to really make a decision as to whether to trust them or not. However, even since their inception almost a thousand years ago, their traces still remain to this day (most notably within the Freemasons) and sorry, but no iteration of them has ever really been of the 'good guys'...

This is one of the main reasons this VN interests me, the Templars have long been a fascination to me as a historical subject.
I share this facination with the Knight Templars, although I have a more benevolent view of the Original Order.
TLDR: The Order is originated from the St Francis brotherhood, they were the Armed arm of the Vatican in former days
they had to vow "humilty, and poorness" no personal posesions for them, also they live under the celibate, originally the order protected the trading routes, and the merchant caravans from the sacred land to europe they are called Knight Templars because they headquarter was the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem, they were Monks, with habits, and trained in combat, they become like an elite corps within the years, they also had a system that when a rich Busnisess man wanted to carry gold from one city to another he went to the next templar post paid there and get a document back acrediting him to recive the same amout back once reached the destination paid from the treasure of the post.
The Order became wealthy and powerfull trough out the years, and rivalized with the St Johns order of the Hospitalarian knights.
Anyways they were an "Hermetic order withing the St Francis brotherhood" with strong rules and own rituals.
Im researching them, and other Hermetic organisations since almost 16 yrs now, I only can encourage you to look for material, and make your own picture about them.
Of course they were a few "rotten eggs" within the great masters,
The fact that their finacial power, plus military power, and their own secret rituals, contributed to their diapearace, It was one French King who needed the money of them and one pope who felt threatend by their power to take them down using the "Holy Inquisition" fun fact is that the unlucky friday 13 is founded by the raid to catch the great master of the Knight Templars in France. after that the order got disolved by the Vatican, and their great grandmasters excomunicated, inprisoned, and executed, anyway the Order surived as and Hermetic brotherhood In Spain, Germany, England and South France.
Edit: this is a brief and incomplete resume from what I remeber out of my head, I don't want to go into a detailed discuassion or getting corrected by some if someone is intersted in the historical facts, go and make your own picture about it.
 
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