VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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Maviarab

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I have a heap of updates and new VNs to read at the moment. I put all of them aside to replay this last night. I love this VN.

No Kaija content? Dang I do enjoy punishing her deceitful butt. I didn't even get a chance to tell her I screwed a random from the bar. Take that betrayer!!!! Sorry caught up in the moment. I would think there would have been a goodbye scene or something with Kaija. Interesting.

I look forward to time with Medb and the elves, it will be very interesting. Elves are always problematic. There are the classic elven types dark elves and Tolkien type elves. Its very hard to pull off a new interpretation of elves these days that people like let alone accept. I have faith in Ceolag to pull it off and I do find Medb fascinating.
Team Elf all the way! Just make sure sis stays with us and out of the way....

Takin' the Templars doooowwwwwn! (even on my Kaija save lol)
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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Team Elf all the way! Just make sure sis stays with us and out of the way....

Takin' the Templars doooowwwwwn! (even on my Kaija save lol)
I don't want to take them down, I just want to put a broom through the place starting with the parents.

I'll reserve my elf support until I see who the elves are first. They could be far worse. Their hatred for humans doesn't exactly make them good guys at this point. As much as I am intrigued by Medb, I'll be happy to throw her and the hot queens to the curb if need be. I'm too cynical these days to be persuaded by just a pretty face. Been there done that.
 

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I don't want to take them down, I just want to put a broom through the place starting with the parents.

I'll reserve my elf support until I see who the elves are first. They could be far worse. Their hatred for humans doesn't exactly make them good guys at this point. As much as I am intrigued by Medb, I'll be happy to throw her and the hot queens to the curb if need be. I'm too cynical these days to be persuaded by just a pretty face. Been there done that.
There's always Fiona and Orla. Only path I'm on in this after all the bullshit.
 

Maviarab

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There's always Fiona and Orla. Only path I'm on in this after all the bullshit.
Definitely, I do love a cute blonde. I'll wait and see re-Fiona. She has some explaining to do before I'm fully onboard with her.
Your OP was talking about Elea and Fiona. The blonde comment was referring to Elea, the next two sentences to Fiona. Sorry I didn't make that clear. Too busy doing too many things at once.
Yup...Fiona while ok (again..token sexy redhead so will always be popular)...there's really only Elea who has been straight and honest with you. Everyone else is a schemer, lies to you or witholds pertinant information from you. I love this VN...but it's a pattern in VN's and being forced to go along with all their bullshit grates me because in real life, no matter how fucking hot you are, I'm done sweetheart and moving on.

So, I suppose in reality, even forget Elea (whole work problem shit and her reservations in general)...best girl really has to be Anissa imo. No strings, hot as hell, no lies...no commitment...no issues...no drama...

Anissa FTW!
 

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Not good mate. I hear you though. I've got a list of ailments as long as my arm. It sucks.
We would both fit in to the Templars well, ancient and falling apart :ROFLMAO:
Damn GoA...you're as bad as me...it's what 2am there now? Get some sleep man :)
 
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Yup...Fiona while ok (again..token sexy redhead so will always be popular)...there's really only Elea who has been straight and honest with you. Everyone else is a schemer, lies to you or witholds pertinant information from you. I love this VN...but it's a pattern in VN's and being forced to go along with all their bullshit grates me because in real life, no matter how fucking hot you are, I'm done sweetheart and moving on.

So, I suppose in reality, even forget Elea (whole work problem shit and her reservations in general)...best girl really has to be Anissa imo. No strings, hot as hell, no lies...no commitment...no issues...no drama...

Anissa FTW!
I am not sure I agree with you about Fiona. That is true she is hiding stuff but she only met MC and told fair share about herself and also she openly admitted that there are things she was not telling and when the time comes she will talk about it. I think that is fair. She does not scheme against MC just does not trust him enough to talk about everything. Elea is more open but she knows MC longer.

Anissa FTW!
 

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I am not sure I agree with you about Fiona. That is true she is hiding stuff but she only met MC and told fair share about herself and also she openly admitted that there are things she was not telling and when the time comes she will talk about it. I think that is fair. She does not scheme against MC just does not trust him enough to talk about everything. Elea is more open but she knows MC longer.

Anissa FTW!
Agree.

Having said that, one of the beauties of this game is how Ceolag has crafted Positive/Neutral/Negative responses to many of the player choices presented. That gives plenty of leeway to players in how they respond to Fiona not wanting to share her story.

It seems obvious that Fiona and Elena are destined to team up with the MC in Neverwhere, because of the particular skillsets they offer (Anissa, well... maybe she can carry the bags). On my first playthrough, I was worried that too many negative responses to Fiona or Elena might jeopardize help from them in the future (on reflection, I don't think Ceolag would allow that).
 

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Damn GoA...you're as bad as me...it's what 2am there now? Get some sleep man :)
Nearly 2am. I usually go to bed about 11 and read until 2am and pop in to a few places here and there, so not too far away from sleep.

Yeah. Shit sucks. But we roll with the punches and keep on keepin on.
That we do mate, that we do.

Yup...Fiona while ok (again..token sexy redhead so will always be popular)...there's really only Elea who has been straight and honest with you. Everyone else is a schemer, lies to you or witholds pertinant information from you. I love this VN...but it's a pattern in VN's and being forced to go along with all their bullshit grates me because in real life, no matter how fucking hot you are, I'm done sweetheart and moving on.

So, I suppose in reality, even forget Elea (whole work problem shit and her reservations in general)...best girl really has to be Anissa imo. No strings, hot as hell, no lies...no commitment...no issues...no drama...

Anissa FTW!
VNs have their pitfalls and I find somethings you just have to put up with. Its the nature of the genre.

Elea is my No1 of the 4 love interests. I'm giving Fiona and Medb a chance. Kaija is well and truly on my shit list. There are others I like but they aren't part of the 4 main LIs, like the boss is hot as! Wow.

Fiona I think will turn out to be a good girl, maybe even better than Elea once she gets her shit together. I confess I do like a cute redhead. I don't mind a strong independent woman like Medb appears to be as long as what you see is what you get. I can tolerate a lot more secrets and quirks from her because that is what she is all about. Its no secret she has secrets. She is upfront about it, hence why I can cut Fiona some slack, she admits she has secrets. MC can at least walk in to Medb and Fiona's situation knowing what the story is and you get to decide if they are worth the trouble. Kaija and the Templars did secrets the wrong way. You can never trust people who claim to be your loved ones on one hand while deceiving you with the other hand. The next difficult situation they will do it again if you let them off the hook and don't hold them to account. I know its a VN, but I try to play as close to real reactions as I can. It brings me closer to the content and characters.
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

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Having said that, one of the beauties of this game is how Ceolag has crafted Positive/Neutral/Negative responses to many of the player choices presented. That gives plenty of leeway to players in how they respond to Fiona not wanting to share her story.
That is a major factor that distinguishes Ceolag's work from others and really got me attached to Neverwhere. Some times you want to be pissed with a character and say so.

I was playing another VN recently, the wife had just explained how she had been deceiving you for months. 4 possible answers, 3 were different variations of "I forgive you" and the 4th was I'm going to the pub, MC returns and forgives her, arrrggghhhh. Drives me nuts.

I really appreciate Ceolag's efforts to do something outside the VN box. I can't wait to buy it on Steam and watch this game evolve. If he messes up the elves though, we may have to apply to him the same forms of punishment the Templars suffered at the hands of the King of France and the Pope :sneaky: , just joking. Ceolag will do an excellent job I'm sure.
 
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