VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0] [Ceolag]

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Quetzzz

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Sep 29, 2023
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First of all, it's (almost) always a mistake to begin a game with a girlfriend, even more so like in this game where you need to make a lot of seemingly important decisions with little information at hand very early.
I think you have a point here. The relationship with Kaija isn't handled/exposed in the best way.
- Our first choice with her: love tap, or say hello. We have no idea that Kaija actually hates being startled with the love tap, and first-time players could think a “hello” is too Platonic. At the same time, Alex would know this, he's been with her for years.
- There's very little framing about how the relationship is already in a bad place at the start of the game. We see both Kaija and Alex at their worst. This biases the player against Kaija (Alex makes some passive-aggressive remarks, even sighs when Kaija calls, is tired of her being messy, and annoyed when she doesn't keep her promise of letting him know when she arrived.)
- Only after shit has hit the fan, do we get actual exposition about their relationship.

This is honestly one of only a few criticisms I have of the game. I would love a bit of framing that describes the relationship going through a(nother) rough patch, and that it's up to the player to decide if Alex puts in effort to support Kaija regardless, or if he's just done with it. I also think that the first choice needs a bit of framing as well, maybe with the MC thinking "She hates being startled, but that ass is just too tempting."
 

Dr.TSoni

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May 20, 2022
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I think you have a point here. The relationship with Kaija isn't handled/exposed in the best way.
- Our first choice with her: love tap, or say hello. We have no idea that Kaija actually hates being startled with the love tap, and first-time players could think a “hello” is too Platonic. At the same time, Alex would know this, he's been with her for years.
- There's very little framing about how the relationship is already in a bad place at the start of the game. We see both Kaija and Alex at their worst. This biases the player against Kaija (Alex makes some passive-aggressive remarks, even sighs when Kaija calls, is tired of her being messy, and annoyed when she doesn't keep her promise of letting him know when she arrived.)
- Only after shit has hit the fan, do we get actual exposition about their relationship.

This is honestly one of only a few criticisms I have of the game. I would love a bit of framing that describes the relationship going through a(nother) rough patch, and that it's up to the player to decide if Alex puts in effort to support Kaija regardless, or if he's just done with it. I also think that the first choice needs a bit of framing as well, maybe with the MC thinking "She hates being startled, but that ass is just too tempting."
I have to admit that it's a valid criticism
 

xapican

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May 11, 2020
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This is honestly one of only a few criticisms I have of the game. I would love a bit of framing that describes the relationship going through a(nother) rough patch, and that it's up to the player to decide if Alex puts in effort to support Kaija regardless, or if he's just done with it. I also think that the first choice needs a bit of framing as well, maybe with the MC thinking "She hates being startled, but that ass is just too tempting."
Well, afortunatly that is something what could be resolved with a short Introduction text. (on the other hand the average F95 don't read :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: ) .
Yes that is a good point, I remeber the back and forth we had as it turned out, that the ass slap gives negative Kaija points :LOL: (at least the ass slaper faction got exposed :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: including myself )
 

Old Grumpy Wolf

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Jul 17, 2021
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Well, afortunatly that is something what could be resolved with a short Introduction text. (on the other hand the average F95 don't read :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: ) .
Yes that is a good point, I remeber the back and forth we had as it turned out, that the ass slap gives negative Kaija points :LOL: (at least the ass slaper faction got exposed :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: including myself )
"afortunatly"? Say what now?

Also: "remeber" should be "remember". I have issues with that one a lot myself. lol

And: "slaper" should be "slapper".

Just trying to help you, bro. Not being one of them "what's its". :ROFLMAO:
 

OhTheLove

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Jun 5, 2020
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Indeed it was....
Took me by surprise... She was perfect...
I was still processing it all and I just replayed the scene for better clarity, when I read the "Ainu hen Medb", I remembered Ainu means daughter which means Finnabair was Medb's daughter and that has just wrecked me even more... It explains so much. Initially I just thought they were close friends but now I understand the significance of the MC sparing her, because he did it before her parents. The feels man...
 

CrazyRabbit

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Oct 30, 2019
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I was still processing it all and I just replayed the scene for better clarity, when I read the "Ainu hen Medb", I remembered Ainu means daughter which means Finnabair was Medb's daughter and that has just wrecked me even more... It explains so much. Initially I just thought they were close friends but now I understand the significance of the MC sparing her, because he did it before her parents. The feels man...
Yeah I read that too... Ceolag said apparently the two aren't related so I'm struggling to understand the "Ainu hen Medb"....
Whatever it is ; MC spared her in front of her father and Medb, and given what happens if you kill her (I peeked at the code) she was very dear to everyone....

Talk about player punch...
 
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