VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.1] [Ceolag]

[HornyyPussy]

I got the conveyed message in your post, and how I already said, I'm a very sarcastical person, I just was wondering about "/s" never had problems to identify sarcasm, I use emojis, to hint that I'm not too serious about what I'm posting,
much apreciated your response I love learning new things

well, seems that I'm not alone

For example, Krytax's post was DRIPPING with sarcasm

 

[Knightcvel]

there won't be siding with anyone, MC will remain neutral in the game

I know, it's just a musing. This kind of game is complicated to develop because rendering imagens for multiple paths is demanding. If it was a text game as those of Choice of Games it would have been possible to give your own personality to MC and choose sites, forge allliances, and hit multiple endings.

 

[xapican]

For example, Krytax's post was DRIPPING with sarcasm

Tell me about, I slipped on it, and fell on my ass !

 

[HornyyPussy]

Tell me about, I slipped on it, and fell on my ass !

Now there's an image......

 

[War Lizard]

Hellspawn tried to kill elves when MC and Kaija were touring Nightside (ops, Neverwhere). I don't have any reason to believe otherwise: she was killed by a third part who is interested in throwing both side to a war, like in the plot of Sum of all Fears by Tom Clancy.

We will see. I have no reason to doubt that Templars were at least involved. I don't think that Medb would have said it that way, with such confidence, if they weren't involved at all.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

We will see. I have no reason to doubt that Templars were at least involved. I don't think that Medb would have said it that way, with such confidence, if they weren't involved at all.

Medb claimed with utmost confidence that the sword belonged to the elves.

 

[Maviarab]

We will see. I have no reason to doubt that Templars were at least involved. I don't think that Medb would have said it that way, with such confidence, if they weren't involved at all.

Medb claimed with utmost confidence that the sword belonged to the elves.

And that the MC planned an alleyway attack with Hellspawn...

 

[War Lizard]

Medb claimed with utmost confidence that the sword belonged to the elves.

It sort of did, at least Medb had the best claim to it of anyone that we know if since it belonged to her (adopted - human) brother. We don't know where it was for the last 700 years but didn't MC offer it back to her when she told the story?

 

[xapican]

It sort of did, at least Medb had the best claim to it of anyone that we know if since it belonged to her (adopted - human) brother. We don't know where it was for the last 700 years but didn't MC offer it back to her when she told the story?

No, it is implied that it belonged to her brother, she told MC then it was stolen (disapeared) from the Alfar, but didnt claim it back after she learned about the encounter from Nimue, and that the sword had "chosen" the MC
(Nimue gave her blessing more or less in the scene on the lake)

 

[Knightcvel]

We will see. I have no reason to doubt that Templars were at least involved. I don't think that Medb would have said it that way, with such confidence, if they weren't involved at all.

I think there is a deception underway and a multi-pronged plan to drive all parties into war. Whoever is doing this is planning something big and needs to eliminate or weaken two factions to make it easier to seize power.

 

[Wolfram99]

No, it is implied that it belonged to her brother, she told MC then it was stolen (disapeared) from the Alfar, but didnt claim it back after she learned about the encounter from Nimue, and that the sword had "chosen" the MC
(Nimue gave her blessing more or less in the scene on the lake)

Wasn't it lost due to brother being butchered in a templar massacre?
It "belonged" to elves from the paladin days till the brother took it over.

 

[ename144]

It sort of did, at least Medb had the best claim to it of anyone that we know if since it belonged to her (adopted - human) brother. We don't know where it was for the last 700 years but didn't MC offer it back to her when she told the story?

Eh, I'd dispute her claim since AFAICT the sword has been missing for at least as long as it was in the Aflar's care (possibly far longer given the subjective speed of time in Alfheimr). Not to mention that her claim has dubious merit to begin with since Medb doesn't know how the Alfar came to posses Durendal in the first place; if it was bequeathed to them by a rightful owner you'd think they'd remember that rather than assume they had created it.

At any rate, I agree with the initial point that Medb's assertions shouldn't be taken as gospel truth. At best they're prone to error (like with Durendal's origins), at worst they're little better than propaganda (like the statement that Templars killed her brother).

 

[xapican]

Eh, I'd dispute her claim since AFAICT the sword has been missing for at least as long as it was in the Aflar's care (possibly far longer given the subjective speed of time in Alfheimr). Not to mention that her claim has dubious merit to begin with since Medb doesn't know how the Alfar came to posses Durendal in the first place; if it was bequeathed to them by a rightful owner you'd think they'd remember that rather than assume they had created it.

At any rate, I agree with the initial point that Medb's assertions shouldn't be taken as gospel truth. At best they're prone to error (like with Durendal's origins), at worst they're little better than propaganda (like the statement that Templars killed her brother).

sorry Ename, but Medb's distrust is against humanity, her grudge against Templars is that they failed to protect her Brother as he was burnt in that Friday 13 togheter with the Grandmasters of the Order.

 

[ename144]

sorry Ename, but Medb's distrust is against humanity, her grudge against Templars is that they failed to protect her Brother as he was burnt in that Friday 13 togheter with the Grandmasters of the Order.

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but Medb flatly states Templars killed her brother... before going on to describe events that, at best, show they convinced him to support a cause that eventually got him killed by non-Templars. I classify that as propaganda, literally blaming the victims for the actions of their victimizers.

Medb's statements should not be taken at face value, not without further proof anyway.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

In short, the elves come up with some Obi Wan-esque bullshit.

 

[xapican]

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but Medb flatly states Templars killed her brother... before going on to describe events that, at best, show they convinced him to support a cause that eventually got him killed by non-Templars. I classify that as propaganda, literally blaming the victims for the actions of their victimizers.
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Medb's statements should not be taken at face value, not without further proof anyway.

Yes, exactly, what I meant and was getting at, I just presented the (my) conclusion without exposing the path.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Yes, exactly, what I meant and was getting at, I just presented the (my) conclusion without exposing the path.

Careful. You can't be saying things like elves being unreliable and biased too. Remember, around these parts only Templars do that.

 

[xapican]

Careful. You can't be saying things like elves being unreliable and biased too. Remember, around these parts only Templars do that.

I think it is a cope mechanism, from Medb, that is all which makes her unreliable and volatile, not to say biased, Mab is more assertive in her stance.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

I think it is a cope mechanism, from Medb, that is all which makes her unreliable and volatile, not to say biased, Mab is more assertive in her stance.

Similar to Kaija who I get the impression emotionally and psychologically needs her stance to be correct or else a bunch of things in her life would be wrong and start falling apart.

 

[Knightcvel]

Similar to Kaija who I get the impression emotionally and psychologically needs her stance to be correct or else a bunch of things in her life would be wrong and start falling apart.

Kaija is a brainwashed cultist. Medb is member of an ethnicity who suffer prejudice and therefore developed coping attitudes against a real aggressor who killed elves and could kill her when possible. She maybe wrong when she says a given event was caused by templars (I think she is wrong) but she has life experience from their past conflicts that it could be the case.