VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.1] [Ceolag]

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Yuri L

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Pixillin' said:
No, you don't understand. The MC wants to make peace - it's a diplomatic mission in his mind but not officially. No one sent him, and no one invited him so he's officially not a diplomat, just an enemy. He has to make them see him as something other than an enemy and killing Medb's daughter is not how you do that. They would have been well within their rights to just kill him and dump the body somewhere.
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I was replying to the user with the hypothetical. I know it's not a diplomatic mission but he wants to make peace. But my point stands about the hypocrisy. They have rules or traditions until they don't. It's all BS politics.
 
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ename144 said:
But Medb does wind up stopping it, that's the problem. She forces Finnabair to abandon the duel while Finn's very much alive, which means she could either have forced Finnabair to abandon it from the start, or at the very least could have told the MC he didn't need to kill Finnabair to win the duel. That would have been rather relevant information when Finnabair refused to yield after being disarmed and held at sword point, don't you think?
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I don't think so. I mean, it's not like we get a chance to read the rules but I think that initially she has the right to challenge you to a fight, but then after you spare her - Finn wants to keep fighting because she doesn't like the outcome but Medb is basically declaring the fight over (kinda like a referee) and says you won. That's how I read it anyway.
 
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Pixillin' said:
I don't think so. I mean, it's not like we get a chance to read the rules but I think that initially she has the right to challenge you to a fight, but then after you spare her - Finn wants to keep fighting because she doesn't like the outcome but Medb is basically declaring the fight over (kinda like a referee) and says you won. That's how I read it anyway.
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The fight was in no way over; by time Medb intervened, Finnabair was already re-armed and able (and very willing) to continue. Besides, the victory conditions were very clear: "death." Why specify the duel is "to the death" if it can be called on points at any time?

EDIT: I am now amused at the idea of professional Alfar duels ending in "technical death." :p
 
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RNasc4444 said:
You know, when in doubt, I always ask myself "what would the single greatest protagonist in all of known media do?"

Mal knows best. Always. Be like Mal. :cool:
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I would atleast make sure she won't go stabbing another human again.
Life is sacred you know
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Knightcvel said:
I think you mean Sepuku. Sudoku is a puzzle with numbers...
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ename144 said:
The fight was in no way over; by time Medb intervened, Finnabair was already re-armed and able (and very willing) to continue. Besides, the victory conditions were very clear: "death." Why specify the duel is "to the death" if it can be called on points at any time?

EDIT: I am now amused at the idea of professional Alfar duels ending in "technical death." :p
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It basically was to the death, MC was one flick of his wrist from ending Finn - but chose not to, which is how you get the in you need to talk to them, rather than being killed or kicked out. And if Finn is as trained as they claim (200 years plus of almost daily training) her being on her feet and armed again should be about two seconds.
 
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Pixillin' said:
It basically was to the death, MC was one flick of his wrist from ending Finn - but chose not to, which is how you get the in you need to talk to them, rather than being killed or kicked out. And if Finn is as trained as they claim (200 years plus of almost daily training) her being on her feet and armed again should be about two seconds.
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Look, you can't have it both ways. Either Finnabair was already "basically" dead the instant the MC paused to talk to her, or she was still a dangerous combatant and the MC lacked the guts to finish her off. In the latter case, Medb should have let Finnabair kill him. In the former case, Medb should have ended the duel before the MC got to make his choice - or at least tried to. If the MC chose to kill Finnabair after the duel was over, that would make Medb's decision to imprison him a lot more reasonable.
 
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ename144 said:
Look, you can't have it both ways. Either Finnabair was already "basically" dead the instant the MC paused to talk to her, or she was still a dangerous combatant and the MC lacked the guts to finish her off. In the latter case, Medb should have let Finnabair kill him. In the former case, Medb should have ended the duel before the MC got to make his choice - or at least tried to. If the MC chose to kill Finnabair after the duel was over, that would make Medb's decision to imprison him a lot more reasonable.
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Dude ... you just do you. This isn't even a tiny bit complicated but I'm not going to keep trying to explain 1+1=2.
 
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Yeah ... MC shows up with a known smuggler assassin known to be dealing in black market stuff, which goes nowhere, so the minute it is decided MC will be brought in, basically getting his green card, all bets are off: Finn cannot outrun her laws and the authority of her mom - law and tradition trump wanton murder, which is what Finn wanted. Templars just had a truce enacted with the Alfar when they did not fight it out but gave back their only leverage - highmaster.

The duel is a legal thing—it gets sanctioned and declared valid and refereed and ended by the authority. MedB is the authority - she tells us this much: she cannot tag in unless Finn lawfully loses—she did and the fight was called to be done, over, kaput, ended - it was stopped by the authority. If it had been just a brawl, the dad would have already slapped his idiot daughter into submission for this egregious, shameful stunt.

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Knightcvel said:
Dev Update - 2025/04/11
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Hey everyone,
This week, I started work on the last scene before the chapter finale.
It will be a pretty long scene, so I expect it to take me at least next week and the one after that to move on to the chapter finale.
At least, the chapter finale isn't planned to be as complicated as the one of Chapter 5 or 3 with the cinematics at the end.
So work on that should go faster than the work on the previous chapter finale.
I spent quite a bit of time this week setting up the environment for my current scene, as it contains more than 10 characters, a background crowd, and some kitbashing to achieve the desired look of the scenery.
Overall, I'm pretty happy with the result, but it's a pain to render. :-D
The goal for next week is simply to get as much work on the current scene done as possible before Easter takes its toll on productivity...
The numbers for this week:
60 new static renders for a total of 2301
1 new animation for a total of 97
167 new lines in the script file for a total of 6579

Have a nice weekend, guys.

Cheers,
Ceolag
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