VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.2] [Ceolag]

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Dessolos

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In the dialogue with the Queen, the Queen says Medb has a softspot for humans. So it is unlikely she is racist towards humans. The elves we have met so far have severe issues with the Templars. I don't recall the elves hating all humans, but its been a while since I played so I don't remember everything.
that's what I thought too but didn't want to say anything as I cant recall very much so im glad my initial thoughts were the same.
 

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I'll give it a look through later, I don't think it will sway my opinion at all since I just have a core principle to not entertain people who are dishonest or betray others, and she kind of managed to hit both.
But, I'm always interested to check out the writing behind it as it's been solid thus far.
Kaija will get no redemption in any of my saves, but I highly recommend at least going for "true friend" route, so to speak.
Technically it's love route, just don't kiss her or tell her you love her, otherwise be friendly.
There is quite a lot of different dialogue to be seen and even some scenes play out differently.
Avoiding spoilers, but there is ingame event where she can outright reject what MC wants to do, or do it, despite knowing she shouldn't, giving small extra scene, which is very nice.

Otherwise, hate her guts and wish MC would break all ties with her once trouble is gone.
 

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Hey everyone,

before you get excited: No release date (yet, but soon. Need to check the calendar first ;-) ).

This post is about how the upcoming releases will be handled.
With Chapter 5 being the first Chapter released on Steam, I basically have to paywall the game from now on.
That means no more free versions on Discord or anywhere else except the demo version (up to CH3) if I decide to put it up again.

In the future, there will be two ways to get the game (from me at least...):
Steam and Patreon ( is a special case. I stopped selling there but I'll try to provide the updates to those who bought the game there).

The release schedule in general will be:
Patreon Chaplain tier (and above) will get the new version as soon as it's out of Beta.
After that, I'll work on the Steam-specific stuff (code adjustments, images for achievements etc) and will release the new version ~2-3 weeks after the Chaplain tier (depends a bit on the workload).
Mercenary tier will get the new version the same day as it is released on Steam.



Additionally, all Patrons who have a lifetime pledge of at least 13$ can get a Steam key for free.
That's true for all tiers, and yes that means if you stay 13 months at the Grunt tier you can still get a key.
You have to contact me for that, I won't just send out keys to everyone because I have to request them from Valve and I want to make sure (at least as best as possible) the keys get used.

Chapter 5 will be a special case because the Steam release will be in September and I won't make the Mercenary tier wait until September.
Chaplain tier and above will get Chapter 5 around the end of July and Mercenary tier will follow ~2 weeks later. The exact dates are to be announced :)


I hope I didn't forget anything important. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them. :)
Cheers,
Ceolag
 

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In the dialogue with the Queen, the Queen says Medb has a softspot for humans. So it is unlikely she is racist towards humans. The elves we have met so far have severe issues with the Templars. I don't recall the elves hating all humans, but its been a while since I played so I don't remember everything.
Having a soft spot for humans doesn't necessarily mean that she views humans to be on the same level as her, it comes off as being a lot more towards how humans can have soft spots for dogs and cats for example, that she views them more like pets when every other elf seem to regard them as pests.

While most of the "elf hates humans" lore dump came from Templars, elves in general seem to be vehemently hating humans from what we've seen thus far, as in fantasy settings the views of the people tend to mirror that of the monarchs and the one Queen we do come across from the elves seem to be.. let's say less than accepting of humans existence.
Plus, it's basically a fantasy staple at this point to have elves hate literally every other race besides themselves, as nearly every expansive fantasy setting have them view themselves as superior, which seems to also apply well to this VN.

Of course, there's still a lot we don't know about them, but I would be genuinely surprised if they weren't incredibly racist given the fact that they kidnapped the head of the one organization of humans that they have somewhat contact with, demanded them to be disbanded and went "lol your problem" when finding out about Hellspawns.


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Having a soft spot for humans doesn't necessarily mean that she views humans to be on the same level as her, it comes off as being a lot more towards how humans can have soft spots for dogs and cats for example, that she views them more like pets when every other elf seem to regard them as pests.

While most of the "elf hates humans" lore dump came from Templars, elves in general seem to be vehemently hating humans from what we've seen thus far, as in fantasy settings the views of the people tend to mirror that of the monarchs and the one Queen we do come across from the elves seem to be.. let's say less than accepting of humans existence.
Plus, it's basically a fantasy staple at this point to have elves hate literally every other race besides themselves, as nearly every expansive fantasy setting have them view themselves as superior, which seems to also apply well to this VN.

Of course, there's still a lot we don't know about them, but I would be genuinely surprised if they weren't incredibly racist given the fact that they kidnapped the head of the one organization of humans that they have somewhat contact with, demanded them to be disbanded and went "lol your problem" when finding out about Hellspawns.


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Fair points. We will find out a lot more when the next update drops and discover what the elves are all about. It will be interesting to explore them and the culture Ceolag develops for them.
 
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Hey everyone,

I sent out the beta version to the testers yesterday.
I don't expect a lot of major issues, mostly typos we missed earlier or easy-to-fix coding errors.

The planned release dates are:
July 27th - Chaplain tier and above
August 9th - Mercenary tier
September 6th - Steam

Have a nice weekend.

Cheers,
Ceolag
 

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I'm really looking forward to adding this to my steam collection in September.
Wait for me Kaija my precious dove.
same but I'm not 100% sure if I will be getting this right away or not anymore on steam still love the game and all but I may of went a tad overboard with the Steam Summer sale. So im being a bit of a cheapo when it comes to buying AVN's for a few months right now even if it isn't alot of money. There is a good amount of AVN's I still want to add to my collection too
 
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same but I'm not 100% sure if I will be getting this right away or not anymore on steam still love the game and all but I may of went a tad overboard with the Steam Summer sale. So im being a bit of a cheapo when it comes to buying AVN's for a few months right now even if it isn't alot of money.
I didn't buy anything in the summer sales tbh. I have been saving up for awesome games like this. Plus, I don't play any other games but AVNs on my laptop.
 

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I didn't buy anything in the summer sales tbh. I have been saving up for awesome games like this. Plus, I don't play any other games but AVNs on my laptop.
Sadly I play a bit of everything and was talked into spending more than I normally would have. but yeah I generally save extra cash for AVN's too
 
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